[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread grant
It is possible that at a paleo diet symposium in Los Angeles last week, Guyenet suggested that we got fat because food tastes too good, so we eat too much. And that Taubes publicly asked him how his theory could explain fat Pima indians or any other impoverished population without a food industry

[RBW] Re: Grant's new game...

2011-08-13 Thread Geoff
Congrats! That does look really hard. I like your photo; even though Grant's back is to us, you can tell that he's flummoxed by your getting the lug to stick to the magnet. =) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this

[RBW] Grant's new game...

2011-08-13 Thread René Sterental
Hi all, This Saturday afternoon I drove to RBW to exchange a pair of brand new 50mm Big Apples (I'm using the 60mm BAs) and take a look at the new sweaters. Much to my surprise, when I arrived I found that Jay and Grant were there in addition to Harry and the usual Saturday contingent. My son was

[RBW] Re: Taking my Atlantis on tour again

2011-08-13 Thread Mike
Have a great tour Robert. I always enjoy your touring related blog and Flickr post. --mike On Aug 13, 12:48 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm just about to set off on another tour on my Atlantis. This time through > the Cascades in Washington and Oregon.  As always I'll be bloggi

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Rambouilleting Utahn
On Aug 13, 3:12 pm, IPATOM wrote: > Calories in/calories out - it really is that simple. Please read Taubes before making that statement which modern nutrition research is proving wrong. Glen, who loosely follows Taubes mostly follows Sisson (thanks Grant!) and easily dropped 40 since the fi

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Garth
I agree with Patrick on this . No one knows. nor will they ever know the entire truth about food and our relationships to it . . . . because it is ... and always will be ever changing. There is no absolute truth just what we each choose to believe. We can thrive on just about an

[RBW] Re: Taking my Atlantis on tour again

2011-08-13 Thread rcnute
"This makes me very angry!" Have a blast! Ryan On Aug 13, 12:48 pm, Robert Kirkpatrick wrote: > Hey all, > > I'm just about to set off on another tour on my Atlantis. This time through > the Cascades in Washington and Oregon.  As always I'll be blogging and > posting pics which one can follow

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread IPATOM
I've been a calorie counter for 40 years. At 62, I'm six feet tall and weigh 140lbs. I drink beer every day and eat pasta and pizza at least a couple times a week. The problem with Taubes is that his diet is too restrictive. Taubes states that low carb diets failed because doctors discounted th

Re: [RBW] Hilly Hundred

2011-08-13 Thread James Warren
For ANYTHING on pavement and for many things off pavement, I absolutely love Jack Brown Greens. For regular road rides, there is nothing I prefer more than those, and this state is going on four years now. -Original Message- >From: Shawn >Sent: Aug 13, 2011 6:52 AM >To: RBW Owners Bun

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Tim McNamara
On Aug 13, 2011, at 2:20 PM, George Schick wrote: > It's mainly the highly processed food that we eat that creates most of the > problems. And the sugars, according to Taubes anyway. It's probably high glycemic foods in general, from his perspective, because these are quickly absorbed into the

Re: [RBW] Taking my Atlantis on tour again

2011-08-13 Thread René Sterental
Great! I'll be following along. Can you describe how you've loaded your bike and what you are carrying? Did you cut off the vertical "handle" of the Nitto Big Rear Rack to allow your large saddlebag to fit under the saddle? I'm sure I'll have more questions later... ;-) Have a great time! Rene

[RBW] Taking my Atlantis on tour again

2011-08-13 Thread Robert Kirkpatrick
Hey all, I'm just about to set off on another tour on my Atlantis. This time through the Cascades in Washington and Oregon. As always I'll be blogging and posting pics which one can follow along with (if interested): Blog: Pics:

[RBW] Re: 3 nice things from Rivendell

2011-08-13 Thread Joe Bernard
Another "nice thing" is the RMX pedals. They're stupid cheap, and work amazingly well. I've probably ordered half a dozen through the years - maybe more - as I sell or give away bikes. They're not expensive enough to bother removing before a sale, so I always end up with a new stash from Rivende

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread George Schick
Yeah, I was going to chime in on this, too. It's mainly the highly processed food that we eat that creates most of the problems. And the sugars, according to Taubes anyway. BTW, one more item in addition to my previous post about the diet: I used to have constant heartburn issues, so much so th

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

2011-08-13 Thread Thomas Lynn Skean
+1 for the Dennings of The Country Bike Shop; I drove there late 2009 (6 hours each way for me) just to straddle a Hillborne. I was nervous that I maybe misunderstood or fumbled the whole PBH thing and would find myself getting a poorly-fitting bike. They set it up with my kind of bars, did the

[RBW] FS: What is left

2011-08-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Prices include shipping, CONUS only. > > Stems > > 11 cm, roughly 10* rise 1 1/8 Easton, vg, $15 shipped: > https://picasaweb.google.com/BERTIN753/ForSale#556792356611906 > Pedals: > > Pinned BMX pedals, vg quality, condition good, bearings v smooth, only > text on them says "Stomp," $35 shipp

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Aaron Thomas
As I understand it, it isn't that carbs are bad. The problem is the quantity and type being consumed. Easily available fructose seems to be particularly problematic, whether it comes in the form of sugar, high fructose corn syrup, or juice drinks. Interesting research on this is being done by Dr

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
Perhaps I should and I will. But some of his positions (carb = bad) as presented in this thread simply don't correspond to history. The Chinese are getting fat from Big Macs and other animal fare, not from their traditional rice. And I don't think you can refute the idea that minimal exercise is re

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread PATRICK MOORE
I don't want to prolong this somewhat OT debate beyond the limits of reason or good taste, but I have to say that the idea that carbs as such are bad for you and unnatural to human beings simply doesn't correspond with millennia of human history. Again, it wasn't the Chinese, Filipinos, Africans, I

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread David Faller
I think you should actually read "Why We Get Fat". What you are asserting is largely refuted in the book. On 8/12/2011 11:00 AM, PATRICK MOORE wrote: One huge difference between our mid-20th-century-on and the lives of even relatively recent forbears is simply the absence of physical activity.

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread David Faller
Your experience is very similar to mine. I bought and read both of Taubes' books. I do not follow his recommendations to the letter, by any means, but I did quit most sugar and most carbs. I still have a sandwich now and then, and I eat some chips here and there. I still love beer, but I cu

Re: [RBW] posting woes

2011-08-13 Thread Zack
Last week I had a google alert email end up in the spam folder in gmail! That cracked me up. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rbw-owners-bunch/-/edaWx

[RBW] Re: 3 nice things from Rivendell

2011-08-13 Thread Steve D.
It's a peel-off. I got one with a recent order (as well as a Rodeo postcard) a couple months ago. I put the decal on my seat tube just below the 2 decal on my Atlantis. On Aug 12, 2:59 pm, Joe Bernard wrote: > I like it when I get a little extra in my package. My recent > vest/pedals/visor order

Re: [RBW] posting woes

2011-08-13 Thread CycloFiend
on 8/12/11 7:08 AM, jandrews_nyc at jasonaschwa...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, thanks is there a spam filter on the RBW groups site? No. I was referring to the gmail (i.e. "receiver side") spam filters which seem to be overactive these past couple weeks - I ended up with several reasonably important em

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

2011-08-13 Thread Shifty
Thanks, Smitty. I spoke with Dick from Country Bike Shop who has the same bike. He also helped me locate this group to locate a used Ramboullliet or Hilsen, what a guy! If work allows I'm going to drive 12 hours each way to compare the ride of the Sam vs. an A. Homer Hilsen. A $1000 more is goin

Re: [RBW] 3 nice things from Rivendell

2011-08-13 Thread Seattle Smitty
I got a sticker recently too. I put it on my tool box. I'm glad it's a clear background... makes its presence subtle. I probably wouldn't have put it on if the background had been white. I saw a guy with alba bars about a year ago. I had no idea what they were so I waved him down and asked. I

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Seattle Smitty
I'm with Zack on this... I don't claim to know or understand the underlying processes but I made the switch from a carb-heavy diet to a carb-lite diet in May (after seeing the Riv Taubes vid) and lost 25 pounds making no other changes. I've eased up a bit to a carb-medium diet (150grams/day +/-)

[RBW] Roadeo 59 Frame

2011-08-13 Thread dp1121
Hello, I'm new to the site but a long time Rivendell owner. I own a Bleriot and Roadeo. I'm selling the Roadeo frame it is in excellent condition less the 500 miles on the frame. The frame is a 59, Blue and cream with a beautiful Chris King headset (threaded) going for $1500.00. If you are

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

2011-08-13 Thread Aaron Schmidt
One datapoint for your breakdown: my 60cm didn't come with a seatpost. On Aug 12, 9:08 am, Peter Pesce wrote: > They noted this price jump with regret a while ago. > As far as I can discern, the current Sam line-up is: > > 48cm - Waterford - single TT - 650b - canti brakes? - BB, headset, no > se

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

2011-08-13 Thread Shifty
Thanks for the suggestion, Smitty. I contacted Dick at Country Bike Store who has the same rig. Must be the Taiwan frame, I didn't ask but will. It's a 12 hour drive each way for me to test ride so, can any of you attest to the ride quality between a Taiwan Sam Hillborne and a Waterford A. Homer

Re: [RBW] OK, I'll bite

2011-08-13 Thread robert zeidler
We just keep our cc's/checkbooks warmed up. On Fri, Aug 12, 2011 at 6:44 PM, David T. wrote: > Whatever happened to The Mystery Bike? The one you had to buy sight > unseen. I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Googl

[RBW] Re: 3 nice things from Rivendell

2011-08-13 Thread Ryan J
I have a couple of items that I really enjoy and Rivendell not only sold them to me, but turned me onto them as well. 1. Sackville BarSack with Nitto rack. This is a great handlebar bag that not only functions well but also looks great. I had an Arkel handlebar bag before this, which functions f

[RBW] Re: Did the price go up on new Sam Hillborne frames?

2011-08-13 Thread Shifty
Indeed, the reason is clearly explained in the frame description; D-OH! I thought the price had suddenly risen. I'll contact Dick at Country Bike Shop for further info. He spent at least 10 minutes talking to me on the phone last Saturday. Saturday! -- You received this message because you a

[RBW] Re: Hilly Hundred

2011-08-13 Thread George Schick
Suddenly stop on the hills, fall over on their bikes (because they're clipped in and can't un-clip soon enough), walk their bikes up the rest of the hill in bunches spread out all across the road regardless of the fact that others are trying to ride up - it becomes a zoo sometimes. You want to mak

Re: [RBW] Re: Hilly Hundred

2011-08-13 Thread Bill Pustow
I agree on the tires. They are excellent. On the HH you do not need to be concerned with glass but you do need to watch out for riders that suddenly stop on the hills. The ride is notorious for that. Bill Louisville, Ky Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2011, at 10:36 AM, Mike wrote: > Definitely

[RBW] Re: Visit and ride at RBW

2011-08-13 Thread Tony
Was someone going to reserve a site or two? Let us know, it sounds like some people want to go for sure and some are tentative. I would need to switch some plans, but would like to participate if I knew there was a place to plop my bag that night. Thanks, Tony On Aug 11, 10:55 am, erik jensen wr

[RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread George Schick
Since the subject of Taubes' book finally came up on a thread I might as well check to say that I've been on it for several months now and have lost roughly 14 pounds. I'm 5' 9" and weighed around 191; I've dropped to the mid-170's and am aiming for the low 170's. I'm wearing clothing now that I

[RBW] Re: Tour 2011

2011-08-13 Thread Mike
He liked the Hunter well enough. He's friends with Rick (the builder) and got a good deal on the bike. The squishy fork wasn't really needed and he felt like the 26" wheels slowed him down on descents. Obviously we didn't maximize the carrying capacity of either of our bikes but I guess it was nice

[RBW] Re: Hilly Hundred

2011-08-13 Thread Mike
Definitely. I've used Jack Browns on multiple brevets and 100 mile rides and they've been great. I doubt you'd regret using them for this ride unless the road is strewn with glass and debris. Be sure to let us know how the ride goes. --mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed

Re: [RBW] What's the shortest stem that you would use?

2011-08-13 Thread Solomander
OK, did a 24 mile ride this morning and raising the bars seems to have done the trick. I am reasonably comfortable on the hoods for long periods. When on the hoods, the tops are just about lined up with the front hub, which is another positioning indicator that seems to work for me. Now it's

[RBW] Hilly Hundred

2011-08-13 Thread Shawn
My son and I are going to ride the Hilly Hundred for the first time this year. I will be riding my Atlantis and my son will be riding his Trek 2200r. My son asked why I was not riding my carbon fiber Cannondale Synapse. I told him someone has to ride a real bike to carry all of our support gear. An

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Michael Hechmer
Actually, the bulk of the Taubes book is a review of hundreds of obeisity studies from around the world over the last 250 years or so. Taubes is not making any new or novel scientific claims, but rather summarizing the conclusions of those studies and pointing out that today's dominant nutriti

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting refutation of Gary Taubes' obesity ideas

2011-08-13 Thread Brian Hanson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyXa39ICIrk This is a quick watch and gets to a lot of the points in the book. Worth a few minutes if you don't have the time or inclination to buy and read the book. BTW - I know people who exercise way more than me, but they are double my weight. Exercise may be