So I guess I'll wait to get that disc brake bicycle..the heavy
duty rims sound fantastic.
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Many of you will remember, and all of you can relate to Keith
Bontrager's maxim from the late '80s:
Light Strong Inexpensive: Pick Two
Ok, I give up. The update mentions shifters (plural); and borrowing wheels
at the shop, which eliminates IGH 'cause there ain't no spare IGHs
littering RBW HQ. See, we shall.
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Geez, is every older Rivendell in the universe some shade of *blue?*Where's the
caramel ones?
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Sorry, didn't mean to imply those were IRD's in the photo. I was just
using the photo for comparison purposes.
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I've got an extra straddle cable from an old mountain bike I'll try.
Didn't have a chance to work on it last night.
Cheers!
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Joe -- good insight. I don't believe it is an IGH, either.
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I had the same problem. Raising the yoke to the height shown in the
Rivendell photo reduced the mechanical advantage far too much. Some
folks will say it is no big deal, but I disagree. So, I went with the
Tektro CR720's which, with their wide profile, compensate for the high
yoke. However,
On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:19 AM, Joe Bernard wrote:
Geez, is every older Rivendell in the universe some shade of blue? Where's
the caramel ones?
Many were, it was a popular color because it showed off the lugs. This
particular one is green, better check the color setting on your monitor if it
Or go disc with those rims!
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, charlie cl_v...@hotmail.com wrote:
So I guess I'll wait to get that disc brake bicycle..the heavy
duty rims sound fantastic.
On Dec 5, 11:08 pm, Grant Petersen gep71...@gmail.com wrote:
Many of you will remember, and all of
I think the extra, asymmetrical chainstays are purely aesthetic whimsy.
The mixte lug for the diagatube has sockets for stays to go back to the
rear dropout. In the description, Grant mentions that he wanted a diagonal
tube - functional use be damned! He used the mixte lug, in lieu of the
Hunqha
Ray:
Is it possible for you to measure the thickness of the failed area?
Even a rough idea such as half of original; quarter; or thin as a
soda can may be helpful when the rest of us check our rims. Given
the dimensions that Grant lists, I should pay a lot more attention to
rim wear. My
Hmmm -- do the canti braze-ons look like they're set for small wheels
to anybody else?
Dan S., SW Wisc.
On Dec 6, 10:05 am, MSmith bee...@gmail.com wrote:
I think the extra, asymmetrical chainstays are purely aesthetic whimsy.
The mixte lug for the diagatube has sockets for stays to go back to
Yes, Doug, I will be happy to do that. In fact, last night I went downstairs
and
disassembled the entire wheel. later today I will take a hacksaw to the rim at
several points and try and photograph close in the cross-section cuts. I'll
post
those pix. Unfortunately, I don't own a
No canti mounts. You're seeing midmount rack eyelets.
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well, then, I for one don't see a heckuvalot that's unusual. Quirky
and eccentric, maybe, but still looks like a Riv.
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No canti mounts. You're seeing midmount rack eyelets.
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It would've been the high point, even if Monday had been a good
day! :^)
Philip
On Dec 5, 11:25 pm, dougP dougpn...@cox.net wrote:
Philip:
That's about as good as a Monday at the office could get. And she'd
ridden it across the country, so the Hunq is a capable touring bike,
in case there
I hope there is an engineering reason for those weird mid-stay stays; would
hate to see Rivendell bicycles degenerate into mere stylistic whimsey.
Function determines (or ought to determine) form! Beauty in craft is not
cosmetic but comes from good (= intelligent: proper ratio of means to ends)
I'm gonna say that diagatubes in the rear triangle which look like flailing
tentacles is pretty different..
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Eric: My brother weighs within 10 lb of you and happily rides well built 32
spoke wheels with no long term (let alone short term) problems; he uses no
more than 8 cogs in back, but then the same spacing and hubs serve for 9
and 10, no? Or are 8 speed/130 mm hubs stronger than 9-10 speed same?
What have I gotten myself into..?
RGZ
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I'm gonna say that diagatubes in the rear triangle which look like flailing
tentacles is pretty different..
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As I understand it the Paul Road Thumbies are by definition a 26.0mm clamp
diameter, which means, by definition, you will clamp them on the sleeve of
your 26.0mm road handlebars. If you choose to move them to the 23.8mm
non-sleeved part of your road handlebars, you'll have 2.2mm of space to
Rivendell referred me to D D Cycles in San Lorenzo, CA. He did wonderful work
on my Atlantis;
D D Cycles
2574 Grant Ave
San Lorenzo CA 94580
(510) 278-2976
Greetings from the borderline,
Marc
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I guess I've got IGH on the mind since I saw a newish (perfect paint,
new saddle) Hilsen with that setup at the bike rack this past week.
Given, every aspect of the bike appeared new, I wondered whether it
came from Riv with that setup.
But looking at the shots today, I dunno. Mysterioso like an
And the internal hubs I've used have
been MORE trouble than a derailleur setup.
Agreed. IGH have their fans and many benefits.
But at least as of 3 years back when I sold my OEM Rolhoff bike, they
were more complicated than necessary for daily commuting in Chicago
and touring in the
Goodness gracious I love my 2TT Hillborne.
Yours,
Thomas Lynn Skean
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it feels more like a V.2 for Bomba.
I'll disagree that conjecture just on the grounds of it looking like a
caliper-brake only bike. No canti posts, no disk mounts, no apparent
provisions for a hub-brake of any kind, except maybe in the rear if those
tentacle-stays have something to do with
and they all proceeded to hold their breath...
:)
On Dec 6, 12:53 pm, William tapebu...@gmail.com wrote:
it feels more like a V.2 for Bomba.
I'll disagree that conjecture just on the grounds of it looking like a
caliper-brake only bike. No canti posts, no disk mounts, no apparent
This will be the last time I come to this well over this issue, but here are 3
more pix of the failed rim sawn in cross-section. Pretty alarming! Look here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581354@N03/sets/72157628310179371/with/6467935809/
From: dougP
Whimsy (sheesh). With them splayed in opposite directions like that, I
think he's letting you in on the joke.
As for the carry strap vs. carry tube, I reckon a very non-trivial cost
savings: with lugs, mitering, and brazing... Plus one for the the weight
wiennies too.
Regards,
-Allan
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Hi -
In the interests of getting away, I am planning to take Amtrak to
Davis next week. Will arrive in Davis shortly after 8am, and return
via Amtrak shortly after 9pm the same day. I have ridden many long and
short rides. Notable recent rides are Grizzly Peak Century (metric
course) and rides up
You certainly COULD set up this bike with an IGH, but it appears to have
all the usual provisions for a rear derailleur (DT shifter boss, chainstay
cable mount).
IMO, people buy IGHs for all the wrong reasons - i.e. the mythical
no-maintenance drivetrain that tends to appeal to non-mechanical
Many people like them for the simplified shifting - no cog/chainring jumping -
plus the ability to downshift while stopped. I am one of those people. My
derailer bikes are swell, but I like my Nexus-hubbed Electra Amsterdam a lot.
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Corwin:
My recommendations based on living in and riding from Davis for almost 15 years:
• The best direction to ride is west, toward Winters. Going north is ugly, and
just gets you to Woodland (where you don't want to be). East goes to
Sacramento, which is not as scenic but offers many more
Let me advise against Airglow Bicycle Painting in GA. I am having a
terrible time just getting my bike back from him and communication is near
non existent.
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Eric-- how about best route from Vacaville to Davis?
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On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Corwin:
My recommendations based on living in and riding from Davis for almost 15
years:
• The best direction to ride is west, toward Winters.
I would take Pleasants Valley Rd to Winters, then Putah Creek Rd to Road 31 to
get to Davis. Scenic and not much traffic.
--Eric N
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On Dec 6, 2011, at 4:38 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
Eric-- how about best route from Vacaville to Davis?
Sent from my
On Dec 6, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Ray Shine wrote:
This will be the last time I come to this well over this issue, but here are
3 more pix of the failed rim sawn in cross-section. Pretty alarming! Look
here:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8581354@N03/sets/72157628310179371/with/6467935809/
Ray,
Yeah, that sidewall looks pretty thin. Oddly enough, on the photo
with the white paper back, the inside of the rim looks thin, not just
the outside. Especially below the bead on the section pointed up.
Patrick - am one that prefers bike stuff overbuilt, not under. Have
had to learn over
I have a Civia Bryant w/ IGH. I bought it as a winter/commuter kind
of experiment. It weighs a ton, but th weight mostly disappears once
it gets rolling. Shifting takes some getting used to.
I think Grant has something other than looks in mind here, but he's
also loving the conjecture-it's
Am with Jim on this. Had a Nexus equipped bike that barely made it
through one winter before needing complete replacement. (Shimano took
care of it under warranty). And changing a tire in serious sub-zero
weather was a challenge, to say the least. Although the older Sturmey
3 speeds seem to be
From what I've read, that's not a common occurence with current Shimano IG
hubs. As far as working on tires in sub-zero weather..yeah..that sounds
rough. You'd want a derailer bike for those conditions. Or a car.
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Rivendell also referred me to DD Cycles (San Lorenzo, CA) to repaint
my 1973 Schwinn World Voyageur. A quirky place (kind of like
Rivendell), but he did a gorgeous job on the bike.
Kevin
On Dec 5, 8:54 am, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote:
my atlantis needs a repaint. and i can't afford
Man..you're *still* dealing with that? Time to Occupy!
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are there no canti mounts? coaster brake off road camper? fixed?
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My own wild speculation:
We know that this frame is made to work with the new bars coming out as
well, previously referred to as the BU or Back Up Bar, which is a
vaguely cruiser-ish upright bar in the style of Nitto Albatross/Promenade,
or various Wald bars. Looking at the photo, something
This couldn't be some sorta Electra-type bike could it?
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Jeremy Till jeremy.t...@gmail.com wrote:
My own wild speculation:
We know that this frame is made to work with the new bars coming out as
well, previously referred to as the BU or Back Up Bar, which is a
Ok! Thanks! I've ridden several times from Winters to Davis to Sacto, but
never
from Vacaville (Near Kaiser Hosp.) to Davis.
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Cc:
Eric and Tim --No. both pads appeared to have equal wear. In fact, there was a
small piece of metal embedded in the left side pad. The side-pull brakes are
relatively unused, new for just a few months. The wheels came from another
bike
that was canti-equipped. I just took the front wheel
It is a common occurrence on the IGH hubs that see heavy use in foul weather,
Rohloff excepted. We have to replace several Shimano and SRAM IGHs every year,
which is always a huge let-down to their owners, who believed the hype on the
Internet that these things go forever with no maintenance.
The loop from Davis over Cantelowe Rd. and back was my favorite ride
back when I lived there (1976 - 1991). I prefer the ride going
westbound over Cantelow road, both because the climb is more
entertaining (it stair-steps up, rather than doing the bulk of the
climbing in one steepish shot), and
I really had these bad boys made with y'all in mind so take a look. I have
regular wool caps as well as cotton/poly caps as well.
http://shop.synapticcycles.com/?cat=32
Best,
Joe
Joe Bartoe
Synaptic Cycles Bicycle Rentals, Inc.
email: j...@synapticcycles.com
website: www.synapticcycles.com
My '95 is that color, Sherwood Forest Green, but without the
contrasting head tube. There was also a Coleman green on the menu,
which was non-metallic.
The color I thought was interesting was golden olive pearl.
Bill
On Dec 6, 6:42 am, Tim McNamara tim...@bitstream.net wrote:
On Dec 6, 2011,
I'm surprised people think of them as no maintenance. I didn't know that.
But then, I don't think of *any* moving part that way..
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Then there's the hub on my Raleigh Superbe, stamped 74 and apparently going
strong almost 40 years after it was made:
http://tinyurl.com/76huecq
--Eric N
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On Dec 6, 2011, at 7:09 PM, Jim Thill - Hiawatha Cyclery thill@gmail.com
wrote:
It is a common occurrence on the
I bought a ticket for Thursday the 15th. Please let me know if you are
free. I would love to ride together.
CZ
On Dec 6, 3:20 pm, Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com wrote:
Corwin:
My recommendations based on living in and riding from Davis for almost 15
years:
• The best direction to ride is
If you don't mind me asking what does dd charge for a proper riv repaint
with cream headtube, lug cut outs painted, etc? Seriously thinking of
making this my winter project. Thanks
Peter
On Dec 6, 2011 7:03 PM, Bruce Herbitter bruce.herbit...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me advise against Airglow
Interesting how asymmetrical the wear is.
Greg
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Ray Shine r.sh...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
This will be the last time I come to this well over this issue, but here
are 3 more pix of the failed rim sawn in cross-section. Pretty alarming!
Look here:
Where are you and your Atlantis?
East Coast, Tom Kellogg of Spectrum Cycles will squeeze in repaints
around his bicycle production work.
Tom is an amazing painter:
http://www.spectrum-cycles.com/
On Dec 5, 7:54 am, murphyjrfk murphyj...@gmail.com wrote:
my atlantis needs a repaint. and i
would hate to see Rivendell bicycles degenerate into mere stylistic
whimsey.
Don't get me wrong... I most definitely love the ride and fit of my AHH but
I also love it's stylistic whimsey. One of the things that continues to
draw me toward the riv thing is their willingness to do things for
This is intriguing -- but see GP's comment in the most recent post: The bike
isn't a normal road or trail or touring bike. It's something else. It will DO
those things, because it's a good all-around bike... It's hard to imagine he
would characterize a Scorcher single speed as a touring bike
I wish it'd be belt-drive friendly...
...
Tse-Sung
Berkeley
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Dear Rivenfolk;
I'll be visiting the Bay Area for a week starting this weekend. It's
for an indulgent last-chance-grasp for summer.
While I'm there I'll need a bicycle to get around on ... and for an
S24O or two.
I know there are lots of people who would offer their prized Riv in a
heartbeat,
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