thank you Bill, Sorry doug, good job Jim. Big tent rides are good.
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 8:25:07 PM UTC-5, cyclot...@gmail.com wrote:
Awesome-aggrandizer-aggregator-app!
On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 5:59 PM, Jim Bronson jim.b...@gmail.com
javascript: wrote:
I meant to go ride my
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 4:26:14 PM UTC-4, DSat wrote:
To the riders that weigh 200 lbs or more, which Riv model are you riding?
I am just shy of 300, so should I consider one model over another? I
assume that the wider the tires the better.
I have a Bombadil, and it's solid under
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 7:46:27 PM UTC-4, joe b. wrote:
Years ago there was a great mini-writeup on a former Riv-employee's
seriously patina-ed Rivendell (custom or Longlow, I think). Actually, I
think Grant mentioned it was straddling the abuse/beausage line. I nominate
this
Yootoofunnay!!!
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One thing to consider is that owning a Rivendell is different than owning
any other bike in my experience of one. On a Rivendell you can think you
wanted a road bike and possibly get a Hillsen. But something magical
happens as you ride roads. A Rivendell enhances our senses so we can hear
the
HAHA
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On the back of the seat tube from the left side chain stay to just below the
seat stay. Handle at the top. Handy umbrella clip from bike touring news makes
this easy to set up and secure. Sorry no photo from me but i have seen pics of
bikes with a pump in that location on the blug before.
Also
I had no idea there was a Facebook page! Whoa! What else have I missed? No,
better not tell me. Ignorance at times is bliss. Sorry to get off topic.
Erl, feeling a little out of it in Kensington, Houston
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were i forced to choose to have just one riv, i'd probably sell both the
sam and the hunq and get an atlantis haha! i'd also be happy to have any
riv as my only bike. they are all awesome in their own way.
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Yikes! Get better than ever, fast. That's a brutal bend for both you and your
lovely bike. Bilinky is certainly capable, but nobody's mentioned the skilled
hands and torch of Johnny at johnnycoast.com
He's in Brooklyn and worth traveling for.
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David,
I notice you did not list any head injuries. Were you wearing a
helmet?Any advice in that department you would be willing to share?
Your injuries sound serious. I wish you the best and pray you heal
quickly. I'm glad to hear you have lots of support.
Sincerely,
Matt
On
I mounted mine next to seat tube. Removed the regular bottle cage nuts and
replaced one with a flatter head nut to secure a Velcro cable tie, in place of
the large Velcro that came with the pump. Pix on this groups Facebook page.
Maybe tomorrow I will figure how to post the pic here.
Steve
Patrick, you are the man!
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:01:35 PM UTC-4, Deacon Patrick wrote:
I do love going into an aero tuck on a long winding mountain descent on
road that is packed or paved on my Hunqapillar just as much as my
Quickbeam. Sheer wonder and a surprisingly similar
It's a component of vacuum tubes.
Seriously: 3 guesses!
Rims should give you a clue.
Patrick Moore, who remembers listening to Cronkite on a wooden tabletop
vacuum tube radio on RKO general station in the early '60s.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Jim Bronson jim.bron...@gmail.com wrote:
Well you know I was thinking a snow cat might be something you see at a ski
resort ;)
On Mar 26, 2015 10:07 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
It's a component of vacuum tubes.
Seriously: 3 guesses!
Rims should give you a clue.
Patrick Moore, who remembers listening to Cronkite
Being involved in a disabling auto crash gives you so much appreciation for
all the family and friends in your life. If it was not for the pain and
injury, I would highly recommend it to all! I have been permanently
touched, in a good way, by all the wonderful support and well-wishes of all
Eric, thanks. One day I hope to undertake a longer tour with my family. In
the meantime, like Patrick wisely stated, I will take it a day at a time and
hope that small tours build an appreciation for cycling and a desire for a
longer tour. In the end, I know we are making great memories
I will speak from actual experience, although the driver stopped. My Bleriot
was crunched:
http://lynnerides.blogspot.com/2013/01/well-this-year-started-off-with-bang.html
A framebuilder friend of mine said it was repairable. I'd have sent it to him,
but his lead time was pretty long. I
Anyone can compare the two that has had experience with one or both?
What's different? What's the same? Ride the same? Ride different? One
heavier vs one lighter? One more upright than the other? I know the Clem
is designed for swept back bars such as the Alba's or Bosco. I know the
I agree with the cycling/baseball cap endorsements. Also, wanted to give a
shout out to button down shirts or anything with collars- because if you
raise the collars, they can protect back of your neck. Or you can use a wet
bandanna- it will cool your neck/head.
-E.
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:13
Like everyone else, I am sorry to hear this, especially since I live in the
same state. *sigh*
Hope your and your bike's recovery is as painless as possible.
-E.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com wrote:
Oh David, so sorry to learn of your accident. Best wishes for a
peace of mind is a valuable thing. i am not over 200#, but i opted for a
hunqapillar because i didnt want to worry about loading it up or taking it
only on a certain type of terrain. l think the atlantis would've given the
same assurance, and likely any riv model would do what i need it to
Oh David, so sorry to learn of your accident. Best wishes for a speedy
recovery!
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Forgot to say - the repaired Bleriot is entirely new tubing from the SS
couplers forward.
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Thanks for sharing your adventure, Erl! This is some good information on the
local trails. I look forward to riding (and rediscovering) some of them myself
this year.
Steve
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On Thursday, March 26, 2015, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike
I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I am not
I don't feel slow on it. I'm not quite ready to go full heavy upright long
chainstay crazy big tired out yet.
I plan to post a detailed comparison of my new Jones Plus with the Sam
Hillborne I've had since 2012, but I can say briefly that a bike can be
long/stout and fast. I have much respect
Heal well. Hope you are get back on the bicycle as soon as you can.
Curtis
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Leslie leslie.bri...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:59:27 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
First, and most importantly, talk to the guys at Riv about any and all
sizing and weight/height issues. They will not ever steer you wrong. If
you aren't near enough to SF to visit Walnut Creek, follow the instructions
explicitly for measuring your PBH. At Riv, if the best option is the
Wow. May you recover speedily and totally!
Philip
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What everyone else said-get well soon. You seem to be bouncing
right back mentally, with looking into getting the S.O. fixed right away.
In light of that I think it's a great idea to get that bike fixed soon. It
may help your spirit to see it back in shape as you heal too.
On
My Quickbeam plays an important supporting role in my latest video:
https://youtu.be/VL9ya6NHeE0 https://youtu.be/VL9ya6NHeE0
Bonus points for everyone who understands the “PDX Carpet” reference.
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Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike
I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I am not
I'm 250# and ride a Quickbeam. I'd ride it anywhere. I do ride light, in that
I shift my weight to account for obstacles, but I haven't had any problems with
wheels, or bike feel. Perfect bike.
Philip
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So I have a 54 hunq and my fiancé got the 46 Clem prototype. I can't reeaaallly
speak to ride because I don't fit the 46. But here are my observations.
Weight-similar
Stoutness-similar
Ride- hunq is potentially more aggressive. Could be a roadish bike with the
right cockpit and wheels...though
I saw an early Vanilla in Portland that had been ridden across the U.S., and
then chained to every light post in the Pacific Northwest. Similar aesthetic.
Philip
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Talk with Riv. on sizing. They do a brilliant job!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 2:26:14 PM UTC-6, DSat wrote:
To the riders that weigh 200 lbs or more, which Riv model are you riding?
I am just shy of 300, so should I consider one model over another? I
assume
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 6:59:27 AM UTC-7, David Spranger wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike
I consider most likely to carry me through
David,
I have no recommendation of repairing. And I'm sure that all of the above
mentioned can handle it perfectly.
Just writing to say-glad you are ok and wish you a speedy and happy recovery.
Bikes are much easier to rebuild than bodies. Take your time and I'm sure you
will be in all our
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike
I consider most likely to carry me through the rest of my life. I am not
yet ready to give up on it.
I'm 6' 2 and bought a 62 cm Hunqapillar last year when my weight was at
241. I have 50 mm tires. It doesn't feel heavy at all and fits me great. I
have 48 cm Noodles handlebars and Grip King pedals. I talked with Jared
when I put the order in and he didn't want to sell me the Sam Hillborne I
Hey Patrick,
Do you still have these SnoCat rims available?
Thanks,
Eric
who tried and failed to email Patrick directly
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Busy market day. These things are still available. I've added a couple of
other things too. All
Forgot to add that the rims are still built up. My new Blunt SS's are due
next week, so the SnoCats will be available -- let's say toward the end of
next week.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
I do, and if the first person to ask about them, whom I
There used to be a write-up on RBW's site that was a comparison between the
Sam Hillborne and the A Homer Hilsen.Something to the effect that, the
Hillborne is 80, maybe 90% of the bike that the Hilsen is, at half the
cost. Gave a lot of details on what that extra was getting you.
I'm currently at 230lbs, 6'6.
I ride a Quickbeam, A. Homer Hilsen, Atlantis and Bombadil.
BombaLove doesn't come alive until either on dirt with some knobbies or
until loaded down with 60lbs of gear. It's such a great bike.
Atlantis is like A. Homer - has that magical Riv ride, feels like I
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 12:15:29 AM UTC-4, Don Compton wrote:
While I love Rivendells, I just do not fall into the beausage crap. I have
ridden 6000 miles a year for over 25 years. I have always tried to keep my
bikes clean and well-lubed. I recently sold my Roadeo and the buyer got a
Zack, which would you choose between the two if you had to only keep one of
them?
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 4:38:12 PM UTC-4, Zack wrote:
First, and most importantly, talk to the guys at Riv about any and all
sizing and weight/height issues. They will not ever steer you wrong. If
I do, and if the first person to ask about them, whom I promised to give
1st dibs, doesn't want them, I'd be delighted to sell them to you.
Let me email him and I'll get back to you as soon as I hear from him.
Feel free to call me at 505-321-1988.
Thanks, Patrick
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:56
I am trying to decide if the Clem is the right bike for me, so I'm really
interested in this discussion. From what I've read on this board, there is
a developing consensus that the Clem is going to be slow. Might I ask,
in the spirit of really wanting to know, how those of you who have come
Funny you mention that, as this thread made me think of what was likely the
same bike. I remember seeing the eBay auction for it a couple years back. I
think the listing promoted it as the world's only beater Vanilla and it
certainly looked the part.
KJ
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 3:22:59
Wow now that looks like an amazing place to ride!
On Mar 26, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Deacon Patrick lamontg...@mac.com wrote:
Update: I rode the same route I busted my chain on the other day, and the new
narrow-wide chainring handled beautifully! It got tested with snow of every
consistincy
Update: I rode the same route I busted my chain on the other day, and the
new narrow-wide chainring handled beautifully! It got tested with snow of
every consistincy (powder to packed, to slush, and everything in between),
one section of road with deep cake-on mud, and it handled everything
Hi Patrick,
I'll take 'em, no worries about a wait since I'm not ready to build them
yet anyway.
Please PM your paypal and I'll get the dough off.
Thanks,
Eric
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:21 PM, Patrick Moore bertin...@gmail.com wrote:
Eric: they are yours if you want them. $100 shipped
If I buy a Clem, I guarantee it will be slow. Because when I got on the
Clem, I smiled, exhaled, and relaxed. Then I smiled some more, and pedaled
slow. I suppose a rider incapable of relaxing might ride a Clem fast. I
suppose a rider determined to be fast may be able to resist the soothing
Kudos to you for getting the kids out on bikes. I never had much success with
my kids, although my stepson rode from Santa Rosa, CA, to Seattle with me in
2009.
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On Mar 26, 2015, at 9:01 AM, WETH erlhous...@gmail.com
Bilenky in Philadelphia, PA
www.*bilenky*.com http://www.bilenky.com
John Hawrylak
Woodstown NJ
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Great; thanks. Please paypal to:
patrickmo...@resumespecialties.com
If you care to use the personal mode of payment, I won't object.
Please send your mailing address -- I will probably ship FedEx ground, so
I'll need a street address.
Patrick
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Eric Daume
David,
Wishing you a speedy return to health and your bike.
David
Kenmore, New York
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:59:27 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is
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Waynee: IMO, your question is perfectly reasonable, and I for one will be
very interested to hear responses. For me, a slow, heavy bike would be an
instant non-seller.
One aside that might be pertinent: as Jan Heine has shown over the last few
years in his publication, Bicycle Quarterly, the most
Nice writeup and pictures, sir. My Ram was happy to make a tiny appearance
on your microtour. :)
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I've still got the VO Tourist bar cockpit available for sale. I no longer
need to trade for a set of drop bars. I'll go $100 shipping included on
the VO/Tektro/Nitto cockpit.
I've also got a set of Tektro interrupter brake levers (model RX 2.0) that
I'll ship your way for $30, and a set of
Well said, Drew. Though the engine and skill of the rider can make up a lot
of what modern bikes have (the generally the riders lack the skill because
of it). For example, I've ridden down wash boarded roads on my Hunqapillar
a lot faster than my ride partner, who had front shocks. His shocks
Fantastic looking trip, Erl! I find it so freeing to think of biking as a
way of doing other things, regardless of whether it is an hour or two, a
day, a night or two, or a week or more. I love how Grant's S24O mentality
shatters the bike touring is long and to far away places mold. and
I forgot to add -- of course -- that in my own experience, such as it is,
the length of the stays should not affect the bikes sprightliness. My Riv
road customs, including the gofast, have stays that measure 45 cm to the
end of the horizontal dropouts, and these two define for me sprightly
feeling
I'm not sure where you're getting slow from or what it means. I have no
idea what kind of riding our daughters will do on theirs over the years,
but I know whatever it is the Clementine will handle it very well and be an
excellent one bike does it all. Will it be race fast? No. They don't race
I'm looking for the now-discontinued tan version of the small Sackville Trunk
Sack, now available only on olive. (Similar to the old Little Loafer Baggins
bag.) Kindly respond off-list. Can pay PayPal or by check. Thanks.
Paul Germain
Midlothian, Va.
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Bag matching is overrated! Grin.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/32311885@N07/16751329020/
With abandon,
Patrick
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well, i think there should be a noted difference between slow and
fun/lively/nimble/comfortable. i consider my hunqapillar to be
fun/lively/comfortable, but it is also slower than most modern
road/mountain bikes. knew it going in, love the bike for it. a lot of it
is the way i have it set up,
I'm 6'5 and currently 240#. Like Amit I have a 67 Hilsen and 68 Atlantis.
My Bombadil is a 64 and the Hunq is a 62. The Hilsen rides beautifully
and feels the most lively. I ride it with minimal day loads and I love it.
It feels fast and smooth. The Atlantis was my commuter and now around
Eric: they are yours if you want them. $100 shipped CONUS.
They're true and with unworn brake tracks since I used disk brakes.
I suppose you saw the earlier post about them being available next week
when my new rims come in?
LMK.
Thanks, Patrick
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 3:56 PM, Eric Daume
Thank you all for your very helpful thoughts on the Clem. It really is
great to read that the Clem is a fun/lively/nimble ride. That is, really,
the best I could hope for. There is, after all, a difference between a
slow bike and a bike being ridden slowly. Clearly, I am not mistaking the
I find myself with a couple frame pumps too short for my bikes, and am
wondering what other folks have done to mount pumps in different ways than
pump peg locations. Photos would be very helpful.
Thanks,
David
Chicago
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I do love going into an aero tuck on a long winding mountain descent on
road that is packed or paved on my Hunqapillar just as much as my
Quickbeam. Sheer wonder and a surprisingly similar experience on both
bikes. Granted, they are set up with the same handlebars and saddle,
heights, and top
David,
My best wishes for your recovery, and that of your bicycle. Bicycles can
be fixed, but humans must be healed. Speedy healing!
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 8:24:12 PM UTC-4, murphyjrfk wrote:
David,
I have no recommendation of repairing. And I'm sure that all of the above
Jeez David! Hope you're OK. The perp did some good damage to your ride -
hopefully you walked away relatively unscathed.
KJ
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:59:27 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to
I'm not a Clydesdale, but my brother at least edges into the territory at
220 or so, so I'll make a modest case for road bikes: he very comfortably
and enthusiastically rides light road bikes (steel, titanium -- RB-1,
Merlin, Paramount; literally scores of classics; he won't touch CF) with 32
down
Did you escape injury?
Certainly, file a police report -- not only for your own benefit, but as a
civic duty. Also -- I used to sell insurance -- inform your own auto
insurance company and agent. UIM should cover your losses if you can't find
the OP's insurance information.
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015
I've been happy with work done by Jack Trumbull , the one man operation
called Franklin Frames for both repair and a custom in Ohio . It's best to
call him really as he's a wealth of knowledge, he's been making frames and
repairing/aligning them for some 35+ years :)
Yikes! Threads like this freak me out, i've been off the bike most of the
winter (training for something else), and i'm a little worried about my
on-bike awareness on the road. The fact that more experienced people then
me are at risk only scares me more!
Heal fast, and know that the bike
Damn! I hope your recover is swift and complete, and that the cops find and
jail the son of a bitch. Good luck!
On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 8:38 AM, David Spranger daspran...@gmail.com
wrote:
I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs,
hips, spinal fractures, broken
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 8:38:43 PM UTC-4, frank_a wrote:
I'm sure this one will be hard to top. It originally belonged to Dan Boxer
(former[?] frame builder).
- Frank
I think I remember the harvest gold one. Did he do a 'round the world tour
just after it was built? If so, it
I did not excape injury. I am on day 6 of hospital stay. Broken legs,
hips, spinal fractures, broken clavicle. So much outpouring of support, and
I will be home tomorrow.
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 10:28:08 AM UTC-4, Patrick Moore wrote:
Did you escape injury?
Certainly, file a police
http://www.bilenky.com/
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 9:59:27 AM UTC-4, David Spranger wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat stays?
Worth sending back to RBW to let them handle the repairs? This is the bike
I consider most likely to carry me through the
Sounds like took some damage yourself, David :-( I hope you are able to
recover quickly, both mentally and physically, from this trauma. Just awful
to read...
I'd go straight to Mark Nobilette:
http://www.coloradoframebuilders.com/nobilette/
But if you want to stay on the east coast, can't go
BobbyB, thank you for the kind words,
I bought my BW mountain troops rucksack in used condition from a Store in
Finland (Varusteleka.com), a miltary surplus store.
That makes me the happy second owner, next after Heinz,Jürgen, Udo and
Karl, who at some point probably carried these rucksacks on
Intended use? Majority paved riding. If I did off-road, it would be
somewhat smooth, nothing rough. I will not do any heavy loaded touring.
So, due to my intended riding, I'm more concerned with getting the correct
fit as I think any of the models would serve my purpose. I have always
Bilenky is topnotch.
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Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 10:37 AM
To: rbw-owners-bunch@googlegroups.com
Subject: [RBW] Re: The aftermath of my recent car vs. bike hit and run.
Clementine is originally French, non?
...from Montparnass-ie.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 9:37 PM
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Subject: [RBW] Re:
During the cold and snowy days of January, my wife and I thought a multi-day
bike tour with our middle school aged sons would be a fun way to spend spring
vacation. Unfortunately weather during the last full week of March in the
Washington, DC area can be quite unpredictable. A cold and damp
I've been happy with work done by Jack Trumbull , the one man operation
called Franklin Frames for both repair and a custom in Ohio . It's best to
call him really as he's a wealth of knowledge, he's been making frames and
repairing them for some 35+ years :)
http://www.franklinframe.com/
You've gotten some very good advice here. I'm a super clydesdale (400
lbs) and I can say that I would confidently ride pretty much any bike on
the market with no fears. However, many would probably not be fun to ride
due to excessive frame flexing from a person of my weight and many
Yes, I meant seat stays. I assumed it as much. Thanks for the explanation
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 7:24:58 PM UTC-4, Bill Lindsay wrote:
Maybe Phillip Kim meant seatstays. Those are bent, to accommodate the
super cool seatlug, which was initially developed for one size of big stout
Och! Bill! Clearly you know this in all your glorious humility (grin), but
that is the clear winner among my lassies!
With abandon,
Patrick
On Wednesday, March 25, 2015 at 7:36:50 PM UTC-6, Bill Lindsay wrote:
CLEMENTINE: the Classy Lassie with the Sassy Chassis
You're welcome
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I've been happy with work done by Jack Trumbull , the one man operation
called Franklin Frames for both repair and a custom in Ohio . It's best to
call him really as he's a wealth of knowledge, he's been making frames and
repairing/aligning them for some 35+ years :)
Oh, wow! Heal well and quickly. You'll be in my prayers. May God startle
you with joy despite being in the hospital! Grin.
With abandon,
Patrick
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+1 on Patrick’s comments.
First, wishes for a speedy and complete recovery for you, David, and the
SimpleOne , too.
Second, I too hope the driver is caught and held responsible for his arrogance
and cowardice. It is hard to be forgiving of the car in bike vs. car
accidents, but possible, at
Sorry to hear this, David. Best wishes with your recovery. Wish I could
say or offer more. I'm glad to hear you still have fighting spirit and
won't let this keep you off your horse - evidenced by the fact that you're
already trying to figure out how to fix the bike. That's a great sign!
Wow. How did you fair? I'd work through Riv. myself and simply follow their
recommendations, but then I've never dealt with that issue.
With abandon,
Patrick
On Thursday, March 26, 2015 at 7:59:27 AM UTC-6, David Spranger wrote:
Anyone have someone (east coast) qualifies to replace bent seat
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