Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

What would he be giving up that wouldn't be worth it? Sounds like you are very familiar with both models, have you owned both? As to "Ebay for some 531 bike or going with a Boulder or Lyon might be more what you are after" it might, or it might not be. Really it depends on what dstein likes.

[RBW] Re: Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

At my local ACE hardware/lumber yard they have a nice selection of stainless metric hardware. They also have nylon and aluminum spacers in various lengths.With luck somebody near you does too. I like the "button head" fasteners for mounting fenders. They seem to protrude less than the others.

[RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Dave, John is right. Drop everything and go look at (and test ride) that bike immediately. It should help clarify your options more than any amount of internet advice. You may go meh, you may catch a case of lust, but either way I bet it helps settle what you want (including what size is best

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

dstein, If you think the Hunqapillar and the Sam Hillborne ride the same you will likely think the Sam and the Hilsen ride the same too. As you pointed out Grant has said the Sam and Hilsen are functionally interchangeable, though there are differences between them. I haven't ridden a

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Ha! I saw that yesterday. The price is high and I think I'd want a 52, but I may go check it out. I'm actually traveling and it'll be a while before I can check it out but funny timing since I almost never see AHH's for sale Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 29, 2015, at 12:43 PM, ted

Re: [RBW] Christmas Clementine

(I started a new thread to continue/end the conversational veer regarding the rear fender attachment.) The Christmas Clementine looks lovely. The baskets look beautiful, too. Depending on what kind of loads are planned, I wonder if for the long run, some kind of rack or hoop might help with

[RBW] Re: Columbus, OH

We're not really in the neighborhood, but my store is in Indianapolis. We are a Riv dealer. Cheers! On Sunday, December 20, 2015 at 12:52:29 PM UTC-5, Dan Scott wrote: > > Just moved to the Columbus, OH (New Albany) and wondering if any others > Riv owners here and also looking for a Riv type

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

These bikes are all very similar. I don't think switching to an AHH will be a huge Chang and what you give up in return might not be worth it. Ebay for some 531 bike or going with a Boulder or Lyon might be more what you are after. Clayton SF, CA -- You received this message because you

[RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Thanks, Steve. I get the theory behind the better, but as I said, I've never experienced shifting or rattling caused by the seat stay attachment. This includes plastic SKS, old Bluemels, and newer VO metal fenders. Maybe I've been lucky, but I'm also not sure how much play can develop at the

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Wheel size will make a difference with how the bikes feel. Going from the Hunq to the Hilsen, he will be going from 26" to 650b. That is a change I can usually feel and on the road I think the 650b feels faster. On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 11:58:17 AM UTC-6, ted wrote: > > dstein, > > If

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

I think his Sam was 650B too, so if he thought his Sam and his Hunqapillar rode the same the wheel size probably doesn't matter to him. On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 10:19:58 AM UTC-8, RJM wrote: > > Wheel size will make a difference with how the bikes feel. Going from the > Hunq to the

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

>It is a *logical* idea. Dear Benz, We could have had this "logical" action with either a reverse-acting front derailleur (offered by Suntour and others for a spell) and the "Rapid Rise" derailleurs, among many others--the first modern derailleurs used a reverse rear action, and it comes

[RBW] Re: OT: C Coincidence

Unfortunately, while the widening of the canal may help worldwide commerce as a whole, it will probably put a significant dent in U.S. and Canadian railroad profits. Little known to most folks, the Pacific Rim shippers currently use North America as a "land bridge" for containers destined for

[RBW] FS: parting out a bike

MKS pedals, VO cage sold. Chainrings, and Suntour shifters are pending payment. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Columbus, OH

Christopher, You must be the closest Riv dealer to us here in West Michigan. What Riv frames or bikes do you have in stock? Great time for Midwesterners to build bikes etc. Ryan "looking forward to my next Indy trip" Hankinson -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the

[RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Dave, Have you seen this one on CL? http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/bik/5378131226.html Relatively close to you. Not cheap but appears to be a nice build with low mileage. John On Sunday, December 27, 2015 at 12:26:59 PM UTC-8, dstein wrote: > > I have a year and a half old green

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

All good questions! I actually have some 650b wheels left over from a Sam I briefly owned and have been running those on the hunq, outfitted with compass 42mm tires. I ran smart sam's on there for a long time and still have them. I'm looking for something lighter that climbs better than the

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Generally true, although my buddy's Riv custom sets up really well for fenders, probably because he specified it needed to be built that way. I am jealous of his custom, the fenders look so clean compared to mine. On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Steve Palincsar wrote: > > > On

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

Sometimes I have resisted parts because they are not shiny silver or Al. Sometimes it has been a mistake. When I refurbished my Ram as a double I resisted the White VBC crank even though it looked like it would give me exactly what I needed and would function perfectly. I decided to order it

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:44:42 PM UTC-7, Justin August wrote: > > ^^ > The Microshift R10 does all that. As does the SunXCD. > > -J > Funny, and thanks! I didn't even know about the SunXCD, and now its mentioned in two threads on the same day. I love this place. (Product

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

those silver quickbeams are great looking. i really like that color. On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 6:35:12 PM UTC-5, Michael Rivers wrote: > > I stole Eric's and Phillip Williamson's idea, and use my QB in the same > way. Three speeds are great around relatively flat Washington, DC, and the

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

How did you run the cable under the bottom bracket? I went with the traditional fulcrum pulley at the top of the seat tube, but your solution looks very nice. --Eric Norris campyonly...@me.com www.campyonly.com campyonlyguy.blogspot.com > On Dec 29, 2015, at 3:35 PM, Michael Rivers

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

What is the sound of one hand wringing? Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

Michael, Since you say "returning to hammered Al" I presume you had that before going to plastic. What prompted you to change to plastic, and were the plastic ones SKS longboards? On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 4:11:56 PM UTC-8, Michael Hechmer wrote: > > Sometimes I have resisted parts

[RBW] PSA: 53cm Atlantis on CL

For what seems like a great price: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/scz/bik/5379703508.html Sky in New West -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

I've got 2000 miles on mine, and it's been a great derailleur. You can spruce it up even more with Microshift alloy/ball-bearing jockey wheels http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HFC07D6 here's a

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

This does look like a nice bike but why? I don't get it. Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

On 12/29/2015 05:39 PM, Bill Lindsay wrote: Steve You will be pleased to know my Hillborne has a threaded boss on the underside of the seatstay bridge, perfectly placed for easy fender installation. My Hillborne has a threaded boss on the trailing edge of its kickstand plate, perfectly

[RBW] Re: What stem?

FWIW iamkeith, As I have done it myself, but comparing bars is very tricky, and photographing them and seeing them properly compared is impossible ! As for the bike, have you considered buying a Bosco standalone bar and a negative rise stem ? This would have the potential to lower the

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

Why the 3 speed instead of single speed? I can see having some lower gears for longer rides, and the S3X is a way to get them when you don't have a derailleur hangar or don't want multiple cogs. On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Christopher Murray < chrispmurra...@gmail.com> wrote: > This does

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Wow Dave, that is a lot. Like 25 or 30 percent slower eh? To put that all down to weight difference would mean like 40 pounds wouldn't it? Is your Gunnar 10s of pounds lighter than your Hunqapillar? I suspect a lot of your difference is down to position on the bike, whats on the bike (i.e.

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

If anyone has a 130 spaced, 32 hole, S3X in good condition -- no rim, please -- I am interested. Stevie's ordered me a 36 and couldn't find a 32 to replace it on the market. On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Michael Rivers wrote: > I stole Eric's and Phillip Williamson's

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

yuplotsa times and usually they worked really well, too. That is a pretty derailleur...the older Suntour stuff was really nice too. Is that the new Suntour deralleur to shift a 10-cog cassette? On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 2:06:12 PM UTC-6, Jim Bronson wrote: > > I hope it shifts

[RBW] Re: What stem?

OK. Here are some snapshots - hope this is helpful. These two stems seem to put the bars in an "equivalent" position to me, which is to say that the center of the main, straight part of the grips are the same fore/aft distance from the rider. Bosco is on a 130mm/10 degree stem, which is

[RBW] Re: What stem?

OK. Here are some snapshots - hope this is helpful. These two stems seem to put the bars in an "equivalent" position to me, which is to say that the center of the main, straight part of the grips are the same fore/aft distance from the rider. Bosco is on a 130mm/10 degree stem, which is

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

Yup, I bought an XT rear derailleur for my Sam build this past summer, but then saw the SunXCD and spent $100 on that instead of using the XT because I was going for all shiny silver parts. Maybe the XT will have to wind up on an Appaloosa, along with the other spare parts I have laying

[RBW] Re: Christmas Clementine

Oh my stars. This reminds me of my betty foy so, so, so much. What a lovely bike! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

[RBW] Re: What stem?

As I mentioned in my earlier post, I do have the non-bullmoose and do plan to use a negative rise stem. I wont cut it until I've had the opportunity to actually ride it. (Right now, I just walk it up the hill and coast for a while). But even if I do, remember that the insertion point will

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Easy and hard are subjective assessments made by the person doing the work, but ... I don't think it is accurate to say that "Rivendells are typically not really very well set up for fendering." They take fenders just fine. They all have room for fenders, they all have fender eyelets so you

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

I have no love for black components, but I tend to actively seek out stuff with a mix of black paint, dulled ano, scratches, etc. just so dirt doesn't look so... dirty. Half a day on the streets of LA turns a show pony into horse meat. Jeff Hagedorn Los Angeles, CA USA -- You received this

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

I stole Eric's and Phillip Williamson's idea, and use my QB in the same way. Three speeds are great around relatively flat Washington, DC, and the low gear helps when I'm bringing home groceries or adult beverages. My top, direct drive gear is also 72 in, and I have a freewheel in the back.

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

"Maybe I expected too much." I think your definition of "perfect fenders" is identical to mine. If I specified a custom, I would specify "perfect fenders" and I would specify what I mean by perfect fenders in the minute detail and I would expect to get them. I don't know if you have actually

[RBW] Re: PSA: 53cm Atlantis on CL

Nice -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

Wasn't there talk once about a Rivendell-developed, dual-function derailleur that could work either way simply by switching the position of the spring in the parallelogram? At the time, I thought it would be too ambitious of a project to ever see fruition. On the other hand, they've managed

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

^^ The Microshift R10 does all that. As does the SunXCD. -J -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to rbw-owners-bunch+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

On 12/29/2015 12:03 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Thanks, Steve. I get the theory behind the better, but as I said, I've never experienced shifting or rattling caused by the seat stay attachment. This includes plastic SKS, old Bluemels, and newer VO metal fenders. Maybe

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Steve You will be pleased to know my Hillborne has a threaded boss on the underside of the seatstay bridge, perfectly placed for easy fender installation. My Hillborne has a threaded boss on the trailing edge of its kickstand plate, perfectly placed for easy perfect fender line. All my

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Ted - My ambivalence starts when a lot of money and time get invested into it. I realize its a long shot to get an exact trade (or close to it, ideally for just a frame and fork trade). Could be worth it in the long run. I'd have to put some thought into it. I do about 33-35 minutes up on the

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Dear Steve, Rivendells are as easy to fender as the typical British club bikes, or the Japanese sport-touring machines. It is only in the last fifteen years of the integrated-bike renaissance that designing for more than "clearance" and "versatility" has been even recognized as desirable in

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

I built an '80's mtb for my daughter using a RR rear and 8-spd indexed shifters. It is wonderfully intuitive with the clickers - thumbs make it harder, fingers make it easier. Then I found a new take-off RR XT for $20 on the discount table at LBS, from a lady who hated it on her new bike.

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Significantly more difficult to fender than my George Longstaff Audax Custom. Of course, that's a custom (made for John Bayley 25 years ago) rather than an off-the-shelf bike, but still. Both bridges in back are in exactly the correct locations, and the seatstay bridge has a fender mount

Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

But does it go to 11? On Dec 29, 2015 12:49 AM, "Benz, Sunnyvale, CA" wrote: > It is a *logical* idea. > > Imagine if we didn't have the legacy baggage of pulling cable to downshift > in the back. Wouldn't it make more sense if both front and rear derailleurs > did the same

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

You should check it out. We're similar PBH and I would be on a 48 Hunq. I owned a 54 AHH which I never should have sold (cash crunch at the time). It fit great with Alba bars, and rode like the wind. They never come up in that size used, so get thee hence! -- You received this message because

[RBW] FS: Grand Bois Cypres Tires (< 300 miles), $75

Selling a pair of Grand Bois Cypres (700x32) with less than 300 miles of use. Regular, not extra light model. Tan sidewalls. These are great tires in great shape, aside from some darkening of the sidewalls from dirt. I've had them on my (too little used) Rambouillet for a year and love them.

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

Did your brakes have enough range of adjustment for the change from 26" to 650B? I'm actually a bit surprised that you are "noticeably slower on the hunq than on my go fast road bike" going up say Tunnel road. Do you notice the difference just by feel on your own, by timing it, by comparison

[RBW] FS: parting out a bike

Updated list. Prices include conUS shipping. PayPal Personal payment please. Nitto B136 Randonneur Bar Setup - 44cm bar, 11cm Nitto Technomic stem (225mm height) 26.0mm clamp, Shimano non-aero brake levers, faded blue cloth tape - $90 shipped - will separate - $40 shipped for bars or stem -

[RBW] Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

Nice! Enjoy!! All silver just looks so good! I got a Sunxcd Rd on my Bleriot because I wanted all silver and no black on the bike. Micro shift FD all silver too. I'm really enjoying them! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

It's a Microshift R10. The new Suntour XCD is similar but has a longer cage to support up to 34 in the back. Pretty sure Microshift makes the Suntour XCD stuff for them, it looks just about identical save for the longer cage. http://sunxcd.net/rearder/ The main difference other than the cage is

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

On 12/29/2015 08:18 PM, ted wrote: Easy and hard are subjective assessments made by the person doing the work, but ... I don't think it is accurate to say that "Rivendells are typically not really very well set up for fendering." They take fenders just fine. They all have room for fenders,

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

I wonder what the fender material has to do with it since I never "just grab hold of it, yank in the direction you want and clamp it down". I use a spacer to support the fender where I want it to get the fender line I want (as long as the frame is not in the way). Is the use of spacers to adjust

[RBW] Re: Ever buy parts just because they're shiny?

Ron, That's a beautiful bike. I like the pedals. What brand are they? Thanks, Erl -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Dear Will, Expanding on my own post--is this a sign of senility? Anyway, I did want to point out that the rear fender lines of early Rivendell designs aren't accidental. They are consistent with most non-constructeur builds of any era. There were a few Japanese bikes, a few now very

Re: [RBW] Re: Interesting Simple One mod into "touring/cx" bike

I was referring to the bike in the original post. I don't understand all the work put into adding a derailer to a QB/SO. I have a QB and would love make it a 3 speed! Cheers! Chris -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To

Re: [RBW] Rear fender mounting. Was: Christmas Clementine

Dear Steve, Sure. The Longstaff was built to carry fenders full-time. The basic Rivendell design templates were adapted/lifted from Bridgestone and Schwinn Paramount production concepts and standard American build practice. These are not bad roots, but they are grounded in a less-specified

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

Odd, I have always thought the now standard arrangement was perfectly logical. You pull on the cable to move to a bigger cog/rig with either derailer, aka you always pull on the lever to force the chain uphill. If you grasp how gears work, then what going to a bigger or smaller cog/ring is

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

That's how it works in my head, too, Ted. I grew up on friction 10-speeds, so my first relationship with shifters was pulling up to bigger cogs, pushing down to smaller. This made perfect sense to us who learned that shifting was moving a chain around with our hands. But there's a whole

[RBW] Re: What stem?

Hey Keith, thanks for posting those pics. Btw, Looks like a nice piece of property you got there - enjoyed the view!!! Much whiter then over here! i think I've figured out that a 1 to 2cm stem deduction from the boscos will give me the position I am after. I always feel like the boscos come

[RBW] OT: C Coincidence

Last night I watched an episode of Modern Marvels on the History Channel about the incredible construction project to "widen" the Panama Canal accomodate the larger super container ships. It wasn't until they were showing how the 100 ft-high steel lock gates were constructed and moved (from

Re: [RBW] Christmas Clementine

It may be vastly better, but I have to report never having had an issue with the bracket style mount. Nevertheless, since I do not have that option, I seek advice. What type of bolt head do people use so as to create the least protrusion in the middle of the inside of the fender? Pudge, what

[RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

On Tuesday, December 29, 2015 at 1:49:14 AM UTC-5, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: > > > > Anyone remember the reverse shifting Sachs *front* derailleur? > > I had a reverse-shifting suntour front derailleur on a Centurion once. Regarding Shimano RDs, I have been using rapid-rise for years

Re: [RBW] Christmas Clementine

On 12/29/2015 09:34 AM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: It may be vastly better, but I have to report never having had an issue with the bracket style mount. Nevertheless, since I do not have that option, I seek advice. What type of bolt head do people use so as to create the

Re: [RBW] Re: Rapid Rise Rear Der

On 12/29/2015 01:49 AM, Benz, Sunnyvale, CA wrote: Anyone remember the reverse shifting Sachs /front/ derailleur? No, but I certainly remember the backwards-acting Sun Tour front derailleurs. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch"

Re: [RBW] Christmas Clementine

On 12/28/2015 11:46 PM, 'Mark in Beacon' via RBW Owners Bunch wrote: Been meaning to ask, the Clementine is the first bike I have owned with the seat stay bridge having no brake or fender hole, but rather a hole that faces the ground. I assume I get the other two attachment points lined up,

Re: [RBW] Re: Possible WTT 48cm Hunqapillar for AHH

I actually do have compass tires on there now ;) And that is my fear. I felt the hunq and sam rode the same honestly and since i liked the hunq more i sold the sam. And I've heard the sam and ahh ride the same (grant's words). On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Clayton.sf

Re: [RBW] Re: Sunrace 'one at a time'

On 12/28/2015 10:43 PM, Joe Bernard wrote: I gave up on bar-ends for Albas.*At 53* I'm officially tired of jamming those things into my knees ;) cm, you mean? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "RBW Owners Bunch" group. To unsubscribe from this