For what it's worth, I always value ease of service and parts availability
with my hubs. All the hubs listed fit that category for simple maintenance,
especially the sealed bearing ones such as the Phil, Chris & White. The
bearings are readily available & most are a 6902. I think the Chris King
I don't have any White Industries or Chris King hubs, but I'd love some,
especially considering I could ease off of the bell due to that lovely buzz
coming off the freewheel. Not that I hate my bell, quite the opposite is
true, but buzzz...
..and bearings, awesome easy standard
Great find Tarik, thanks!
The Alex Adventure (sometimes called Adventurer) 2 rim is a great fit for
the tire sizes we've been talking about, and at a lower cost it could save
a bit to spend on nicer hubs or other bits. They're also lighter than the
Cliffhangers (by 95g) and Atlas (by 50g) for
I will point out that the new Alex adventurer 2 Rims are cheap and rim
brake and tubeless compatible. I think $30-35 at your LBS. I got a few in
both 26" and 700C for rim brake and cruiser bikes that I am sick of getting
goat head flats on, but have not built them up yet. Based on their
I run Cliffhangers tubeless with Compass 44 front and 38 rear. No problems.
Other options could include Pacenti Brevet for a traditional look and HED
Belgium.
John
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 10:23 AM Steve Cole wrote:
> I considered Cliffhangers but Velocity specs them at 45-65 mm. This seems
>
Thanks Clayton and the rest. I take it then that, perhaps, the problem has
been fixed in the intervening 5 or so years. At any rate, I'm certainly
experienced in riding fixed drivetrains.
I would think that an aluminum axle would be (1) silver in color and (2)
fatter in diameter than a steel one.
Bike Content: I can earn more resume money and buy more bike things --
seriously.
I spend a considerable amount of time on the phone with clients; usually my
iPhone 5S, but sometimes Google Voice, or Skype if they are in Prague or
Singapore. I listen, question, refer to multiple documents, and
Riv is using these: Alex DM24 Rim with Shimano Deore Hub Wheelset. We have
a set that came on an Appaloosa. They are also on the Clems. Very nice
wheels.
If you're are looking for something upscale, especially with a dyno... look
here:
https://www.velocityusa.com/product/wheels
On
Mine failed at the freehub bearings. Twice!
CSHBGCA
On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:33:21 PM UTC-7, Garth wrote:
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> Checking on the XT hubs from here :
> https://www.kstoerz.com/freespoke/hubs?MfgId=4=135.0 and looking up
> the diagrams it seems the aluminum axle versions are 770 and
Checking on the XT hubs from here :
https://www.kstoerz.com/freespoke/hubs?MfgId=4=135.0 and looking up the
diagrams it seems the aluminum axle versions are 770 and above. The issues
seem related to the freehub and springs breaking, not the axle or bearing
size.
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Atlantis takes 135mm hubs unless you respace it.
Best,
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA
On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 12:36:53 PM UTC-7, Brian Campbell wrote:
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> This is a pretty good price on a set of White/ H-Son wheels 32/32
>
>
>
Bought my hub in 2014. Model was: Shimano FH-T780 XT Rear Hub (36H Rear,
Silver)
Hope this helps. I did some research when it happened and there were a few
other people having issues.
I talked about this before on the bob list or rbw list and linked to some
of the sources.
Best,
Clayton
Apparently: Any XT rear hub prior to the FH-M770 has 10x1.0 steel axle and
18x1/4" balls.
It seems the newer XT rear hubs have an aluminum axle and smaller balls,
and have had issues seizing up--I don't know if that has been resolved.
My wheels are all older XT or WI hubs. Cliffhanger or quill
I have a Libertas and have had Rivendell road bikes, but I've ridden only
the latter and want to know about the former: does it handle at all like,
say, the Ram? In particular, does it exhibit that Rivendell signature of
straight line stability, unerring transition from straight to turn, and
Thanks Joe. Will look forward to some future ride
descriptionsJim DMassachusetts
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Also: I don't think that my (purchased 2019) XT hub has the aluminum axle.
On Wed, Oct 9, 2019 at 1:47 PM Patrick Moore wrote:
> All: Has Clayton's experience been a common one? I ask because I recently
> had the rear wheel for the Matthews rebuilt with an XT hub, which I assume
> is the
All: Has Clayton's experience been a common one? I ask because I recently
had the rear wheel for the Matthews rebuilt with an XT hub, which I assume
is the current model; I have no idea what the current model's designation
is, and when it was introduced.
No hint of problems so far, but then I've
For your tire choices I'd go with a Velocity Quill., tubeless and 25-47mm
tires.
All I can about hubs is the high end ones don't offer any guarantee over
the "basic" yet reliable Deore/LX T610/T670hubs. The newer XT
style(Aluminum axle ones) had some freehub failure issues in the past, but
This is a pretty good price on a set of White/ H-Son wheels 32/32
https://www.velomine.com/index.php?main_page=product_info=235_357_id=2368=57p1usqe5ad2csa55h9k1vl7d2
rear hub is more road oriented but wieght is a littless.
On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 1:44:49 PM UTC-4, John Casteen wrote:
He did mention he is willing to spend more.
I suggest building your own wheels to save on labor and learn a valuable
skill. It is not hard to do and you can get the tools for less than what a
build will cost these days.
I recommend not using Shimano hubs in the rear; especially not the
Does anyone here run tires larger than 42mm with fenders on the MIT Homer?
I'm curious to know about clearance.
I noticed that this frame doesn't get too much discussion. Are people who
ride 650b mostly in it for road-plus sizes?
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** In fact they are labeled "XXL" and I kid you not, but they are rather
too tight but acceptable on my 34 inch waist (the waist is *very *elastic)
and the length is fine for my medium-length legs.
Thin nylon but I was happy down to 40*F and even below. Good cut if your
legs are not too thick:
Steve,
Good question. My bikes are set up with the hubs you're asking about--
Deore XT on one, White Industries on another. (My rims are different, so
can't really comment there.) I don't think you'll experience a difference
in ride quality per se; they're all good. But if you put on a lot
Thanks to all for your insights. While everyone notes that the high end
hubs are bulletproof and potentially will last a lifetime, no one's really
commented on ride quality and whether one should expect a difference
between the XT say and the higher end ones. I'm not a weight weenie so the
Wheels I built for my Atlantis -rear hub is the trekking version of Shimano
XT. Just like all the other XT hubs, but no disc flange. Something like 45
bucks new from fleabay. Front is SON 28 from SJS Cycles. That was pricey.
Rims DT Swiss 540 TK. Eyelets, machined sidewalls, I think tubeless
Remember that Phil wood is not going to be a reduction in weight!
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Very nice picks Clayton! A bit pricy though:
$323 for MI5 hub
$275 for Schmidt hub
$180 for two cliffhanger rims
$57 for 64 Spain strong spokes
Plus build and shipping costs for some dream wheels.
I was looking at something that looks similar with Cliffhanger or Voyager rims,
Shutter Precision
Congrats on the bike.
On the rims, I've had really good luck with rims from Velocity, so IMO no
real reason to look beyond their offerings (with exceptions of course, such
as a killer deal on an alternate or no stock for size/drillings/color you
want.)
On the hubs, if you choose the
Hello Folks. Looking to buy a 55cm Betty Foy or Yves Gomez - the
"non-kinky" version (meaning the top/diaga-tube meet the rear stays in a
clean straight line). Frame-only or complete-bike. Shoot me a PM. Thanks!
Rocky
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Personally I would go with White industries MI5 rear hub laced to cliffhangers
with Sapim Strong spokes in the rear with a wide body Schmidt generator hub
laced to the same rim with the same spokes. 32h and 3 cross on both wheels.
Clayton Scott
HBG, CA
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I'm in the same boat for width because I'm also running Snoqualmie Pass
tires on my Atlas rims currently - 44mm would be great for Cliffhangers but
under 40mm is not "optimal" though others have reported success at 38mm.
The Voyager from VO is the middle ground: 22mm internal width, 27
Rims: the Velocity Atlas is great but (1) is it not tubeless compatible and
it's nice to have that option later even if you won't need it now. (2) The
Atlas is also limited to "optimal" tire widths from 25-45mm (though many
folks run wider tires without issues).
The Cliffhanger is what I'm
I considered Cliffhangers but Velocity specs them at 45-65 mm. This seems
to reduce my flexibility. I was planning on using RH Snoqualmie Pass
Endurance+ tires that are 44 mm. If I wanted to go to a narrower tire, the
Cliffhangers are not ideal.
On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 at 9:48:04 AM
Silver mandatory.
Either clamp size ok but 25.4 is preferred.
-J
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For riding in the desert you might like the Cliffhanger for it's tubeless
option, I think the Atlas doesn't do tubeless? That's assuming you're not going
sub 40mm with your tires.
-Kai
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I'm building up a new-to-me MIT Atlantis. My best guess is that this is my
final build short of deciding to have a custom frame built for me, which is
unlikely. As a result, I'm willing to spend somewhat more on components
that I otherwise would. I've been thinking about the wheels I want
@Brian, you can't post that without telling us the name of your band(s)! Got to
check you out on Spotify!
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