Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-30 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Trina Pundurs posted: >It's not clear to me from your question whether you are looking for a >relationship designator to relate the chair to the work, or to the >committee. We catalogue electronic documents harvested from th Web. Many are commissioned by, created by, or issued by committees whic

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Trina Pundurs
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:35 PM, Felix, Kyley wrote: > I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a > committee. The term “chair” is not in the RDA toolkit’s list of > relationship designators. > > ** ** > > Does anybody have any suggestions, please? > Hi Kyley, It's not

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Joan Wang asked: >"the chair of a committee", it is a relationship of a person with a work? In the case of committee reports, we consider it to be. Among the internet harvested electronic documents we catalogue for one e-aggregator, there are many government and private committee reports.

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Mr. Muawwas asked: ACan we use Praeses? Yes. But since we doubt most would know that that means, we have suggested "moderator" and added "thesis advisor". abridger actor addressee animator annotator appellant appellee architect [arranger] arranger of music [consider arranger] art di

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Joan Wang
"the chair of a committee", it is a relationship of a person with a work? On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:35 AM, Felix, Kyley wrote: > I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a > committee. The term “chair” is not in the RDA toolkit’s list of > relationship designators. >

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-29 Thread Muhammad Muawwad
Can we use Praeses? Muhammad A. Muawwad Systems Librarian, Retired muaw...@yahoo.com Cairo, Egypt Mobile : 0020122-7549005 From: J. McRee Elrod To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2013 8:53 AM Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair Kyle Felix asked

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-28 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Kyle Felix asked: >I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. In the one alphabetical list of relators in the MRIs created by merging the various lists in RDA, "chairperson" is included. Michael Gorman and I must have found it in RDA? We square bracketed those t

[RDA-L] Relator term for committee chair

2013-08-28 Thread Felix, Kyley
I want to know what relator term I should use for the chair of a committee. The term "chair" is not in the RDA toolkit's list of relationship designators. Does anybody have any suggestions, please? Many thanks. Kyley Felix Librarian Parliamentary Library Parliament House Harvest Tce Perth WA 60

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term

2013-05-06 Thread Benjamin A Abrahamse
The complexity and contiguity of the universe in general does not conform very well to static, controlled lists. This includes not only relationships but also names of things and people, abstractions and topics, and pretty much everything catalogers see fit to record and use as a 'controlled voc

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term

2013-05-06 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman said: >> The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a >> finite predetermined set of terms. > >True; and it seems to be getting more complex all the time. Appropriate $4codes or $eterms are lacking for some non complex situations, e.g., 111 conference heading

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-06 Thread James Weinheimer
On 06/05/2013 15:27, Nancy Braman wrote: > Quoting "J. McRee Elrod" : > >> The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a >> finite predetermined set of terms. > > True; and it seems to be getting more complex all the time. Yes. There is another aspect to this as I discover

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-06 Thread Nancy Braman
Quoting "J. McRee Elrod" : Then there are "spirit" writings and compositions; another version of "as told to"? Oh, dear. Now I'll be waiting to see $echanneller. (Kidding, honest!) The complexity of the bibliographic world does not fit neatly into a finite predetermined set of terms. Tru

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-03 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman said: >It's not really in interview format; the narrative flows as if Mr. >Young had had no assistance at all. It just doesn't feel like >interviews. True. I was joking a bit, although I suspect questions were asked, suggestions were made, and narrative was edited by the "int

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" (RDA-L(#2013-110)

2013-05-03 Thread Nancy Braman
To all who responded, thank you very much. (And no, I'm not quoting the whole digest at the end.) Bernadette and Heidrun: I'll probably go with author. An author's note explains that Mr. Young had made two previous attempts on his own, but they were unsatisfactory. His editor then suggested bri

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread John Hostage
un > Wiesenmüller > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2013 15:34 > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" > > I haven't seen the book, so I'm not certain about the exact nature of Libby > Kopolen's contribution. Does s

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread J. McRee Elrod
Nancy Braman posted: >The house >Baba built >An artist's childhood in China >Text as told to Libby Kopolen >Ed Young For Kopolen we would use: ivr Interviewer and for Young: ive Interviewee These codes (without the words) would go in $4, or the words (lower case and withouth the code) wo

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
#x27;Reilly Catalogue Support Librarian 01865 2-77134 Bodleian Libraries, Osney One Building Osney Mead Oxford OX2 0EW. *** -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Nancy Br

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread Heidrun Wiesenmüller
ource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Nancy Braman Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA Subject: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to" What is the proper term for the person named in "text a

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread Joan Wang
*** > > > -Original Message- > From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access > [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Nancy Braman > Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 > To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA > Subject: [RDA-L] Relator term for "a

Re: [RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread Bernadette Mary O'Reilly
ian Libraries, Osney One Building Osney Mead Oxford OX2 0EW. *** -Original Message- From: Resource Description and Access / Resource Description and Access [mailto:RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA] On Behalf Of Nancy Braman Sent: 02 May 2013 17:30 To: RDA-L@LISTSERV.LAC-BAC.GC.CA

[RDA-L] Relator term for "as told to"

2013-05-02 Thread Nancy Braman
What is the proper term for the person named in "text as told to..."? I've looked through the first draft and the MARC list and can't find anything appropriate. If it helps, the title page (in all caps in the book) reads as follows: The house Baba built An artist's childhood in China Text as