* Konstantin Knizhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031217 10:40]:
>
> Hello Tim,
>
> Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 8:01:14 PM, you wrote:
>
> >> operations. You have to use something like this:
> >>
> >>h: find/tail hash key
> >>either h [change h key value] [append append hash key value]
> >>
a twist on my previous statement...
"REBOL: others define code, rebol expresses it"
and a new one:
"REBOL: its quick and dirty... without the dirty"
---
DRIFTNG A LITTLE BIT...
---
In this ongoing discussion, it has been confirmed that you
> Also try out the Altme REBOL world
> (Get Altme from safeworlds.com and then visit the REBOL world as user
guest,
> password guest).
And if you do try altme, then once in, click on the accounts group and post
a message there asking for a username password. You'll need to supply an
email and you
Hi Stan
> . Are mail list threads determined only by the subject? In other words,
> can I add my two cents to an existing topic just by typing in the correct
> subject? Or do I have to reply to an existing email? Does Re: matter in
> the subject?
I'm pretty sure it's just done on the text
Heehee, nice one Joel!
That Perl excerpt is truly marvellous - I must pass it off to a linguist
friend of mine - she'll love it :)
James.
Joel Neely wrote:
>Hi, James,
>
>Were you just joking? (OBTW, REBOL isn't the only language
>that supports dialects...)
>
>James Marsden wrote:
>
>
>>Di
Greetings,
I've been playing with Rebol for a few months now (I like it!!), but am new
to this mailing list. I have a few questions.
1. Are mail list threads determined only by the subject? In other words,
can I add my two cents to an existing topic just by typing in the correct
subject? Or
"REBOL" - It's just an expression
or
REBOL - express yourself!
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On Wed, 17 Dec 2003 14:15:57 +0300, Konstantin Knizhnik
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First version of Rebol API to my object-oriented database DyBASE is
> ready. It can be downloaded from my site:
> http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase.html
Hi, even I'm in close private contact with you about
Hi, James,
Were you just joking? (OBTW, REBOL isn't the only language
that supports dialects...)
James Marsden wrote:
>
> Dialecting in Rebol, more fun than Latin!
Damien Conway has actually written a Latin dialect for Perl!
[begin excerpt]
Lingua::Romana::Perligata -- Perl for the XXI
Rebol - programming for dialecticians
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all along we had the answer in our faces.. ;-)
rebol means "relative expression-based object language" ... so this translates into:
"REBOL: cause you don't want to define your code, you want to express it"
-MAx
"dont be fooled. Simple is hardest"
> -Original Message-
> From
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>Can we find a snappy one-liner?
>
>http://www.paulgraham.com/fix.html
>
>Sunanda.
>
>
Dialecting in Rebol, more fun than Latin!
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>
> Rebol strikes a very elegant balance I think.
> What it still lacks is a smart IDE/browser component to help
> one to move
> faster with syntax and dialects.
> Loaded dictionaries and context sensitive support.
> I imagine that is a very hard thing to write. But perhaps
> Rebol makes it
> e
Hello Tim,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 8:01:14 PM, you wrote:
TJ> * Konstantin Knizhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031217 07:26]:
>>
>>
>> Rebol has awful implementation of hash tables.
>> First of all, it is very inconvenient that there are normal set/get
>> operations. You have to use something
Hi Konstantin,
I should mention that list! values operate a little differently than
hash!/block! values, should you decide to try it out.
With a list!:
INSERT modifies list to just after the point of insertion.
REMOVE-ing the element currently referenced in a list sets
the list to
Re: Rebol API to DyBASE
Just to say that "Introduction" on your web page doesn't mention Rebol at this time
(first paragraph).
http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase/doc/dybase.html#introduction
I'm prety sure you have just forgoten to add it.
If time let me test your work, I will be happy to do
Thanks Anton! I was using 1.2.8.3.1. which explains it then.
Met vriendelijke groet / with kind regards,
Arie van Wingerden
http://home.zonnet.nl/rebolution
ICQ 343101686
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From: Anton Rolls
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 3:45 AM
Hi Konstantin,
KK> I only want to notice, that I want to use universal database format
KK> for all languages. So I will not include in DyBASE features which are
KK> not present in other languages. Certainly anyone can create its own
KK> version of DyBASE based on my implementation and I have noth
Hello Christian,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 7:48:54 PM, you wrote:
>> Compare the following results:
>> Rebol: 18 seconds
CL> h: make hash! 10
CL> start: now/time/precise
CL> for i 1 10 1 [ insert tail h i ]
CL> now/time/precise - start
CL> == 0:00:00.25
O, shame on me - I have t
Hi, Konstantin,
Maybe even worse?
Konstantin Knizhnik wrote:
>
> And as far as Rebol hash is also series, appending element to it
> cause a lot of reallocations, so complexity of insert operation
> seems to be linear (instead of constant). And if we use "insert
> hash" instead of "append has
Hi Konstantin,
KK> Compare the following results:
KK> Rebol: 18 seconds
I get ~.86-.93 seconds on my P900/W2K/View-1.2.10 here for your first
test.
What do you get for this one? (I get ~.50-.56 sec for this one using
hash! and ~.36-.37 using list! -- ~.56-.58 and ~.48-.50 without
preallocating
#Bonjour Konstantin,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 5:30:08 PM, you wrote:
> Hello Konstantin,
> Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 7:14:02 PM, you wrote:
KK>> Hello Cyphre,
KK>> Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 6:40:03 PM, you wrote:
C>>> Hi,
C>>> I just had a quick look at
C>>> http://www.g
Thank you. I will ask to Rebol company what I have to do.
(but... why they still sell Rebol/Command/View?)
Bye!
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From: Anton Rolls [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 15:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [REBOL] command/view and upgrades - w
* Konstantin Knizhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031217 07:26]:
>
>
> Rebol has awful implementation of hash tables.
> First of all, it is very inconvenient that there are normal set/get
> operations. You have to use something like this:
>
>h: find/tail hash key
>either h [change h key value]
> Compare the following results:
> Rebol: 18 seconds
h: make hash! 10
start: now/time/precise
for i 1 10 1 [ insert tail h i ]
now/time/precise - start
== 0:00:00.25
That's 250 msec. Your version runs in about 350 msec.
Since I can't imagine you're running a machine 50 times slower th
Hello Gregg,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 7:26:41 PM, you wrote:
GI> Hi Konstantin,
GI> First, thanks for completing the REBOL interface to DyBase!
GI> Now, if all the source to it is available, any good folks here who
GI> want to take a crack at improving can do so, right? Hopefully, we can
Hello Konstantin,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 7:14:02 PM, you wrote:
KK> Hello Cyphre,
KK> Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 6:40:03 PM, you wrote:
C>> Hi,
C>> I just had a quick look at
C>> http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase/doc/dybase.html#comparison . Is Rebol
C>> really so slow or it i
Hi Konstantin,
First, thanks for completing the REBOL interface to DyBase!
Now, if all the source to it is available, any good folks here who
want to take a crack at improving can do so, right? Hopefully, we can
give you some helpful feedback, in return for all your work.
Thanks again!
-- Greg
Hi, Anton,
Set the WayBack machine to 2000... ;-)
Anton Rolls wrote:
> I yearn (want), occasionally, a kind of any/switch-like
> flow-control function...
Some years ago we had a long discussion about generalizing IF on the
list, and kicked around various options/versions. The copy I could
lay
Hello Cyphre,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 6:40:03 PM, you wrote:
C> Hi,
C> I just had a quick look at
C> http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase/doc/dybase.html#comparison . Is Rebol
C> really so slow or it is because the ported code isn't optimized to the
C> language yet?
Compare the followi
Hello Cyphre,
Wednesday, December 17, 2003, 6:40:03 PM, you wrote:
C> Hi,
C> I just had a quick look at
C> http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase/doc/dybase.html#comparison . Is Rebol
C> really so slow or it is because the ported code isn't optimized to the
C> language yet?
Rebol has awful imp
Anton Rolls wrote:
>Hmm looks interesting.
>I have downloaded it and looked quickly but
>I must go to bed...
>
>
you don't have to - just dring more coffee :-)
-pekr-
>Anton.
>
>
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Hi,
I just had a quick look at
http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase/doc/dybase.html#comparison . Is Rebol
really so slow or it is because the ported code isn't optimized to the
language yet?
regards
Cyphre
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From: "Konstantin Knizhnik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL
Hmm looks interesting.
I have downloaded it and looked quickly but
I must go to bed...
Anton.
> Hello all,
>
> First version of Rebol API to my object-oriented database DyBASE is
> ready. It can be downloaded from my site:
> http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase.html
>
> DyBASE is embedded obj
Hello,
I don't have Command, but I believe it is
superceded recently by the Rebol SDK.
In that case, see if you can get an upgrade
to sdk. (I think you still need to pay a
fair chunk, but you should check it out.)
The "upgrade" command won't help you here,
I am afraid. The core it downloads is j
> JC> What is essential is easy interoprability.
>
> What is essential is simplicity. Any new piece you have to add
> adds complexity, and complexity will in the end turn out against
> you.
Yes very good point.
But there is a trade-off point where modularity aids and manifests
simplicity.
I yearn (want), occasionally, a kind of any/switch-like
flow-control function. What I came up with (works ok) is
similar in function to what I want:
do select reduce [
condition-1 [...]
condition-2 [...]
true [...] ; default code
]
> > REBOL: XML can't parse itself.
Isn't that what XSLT does ?
XSLT is like Rebol in some ways but much harder to read and not so much
fun..
- Jason
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James:
> > NothingNothing is fixed in REBOL.
> unfortunately that can also be read:
>
> ... it was broken from the start.
Okay, so how about:
REBOL -- It ain't broke and it ain't fixed.
Sunanda.
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Hi, James,
James Marsden wrote:
> Gregg Irwin wrote:
>>Hi Sunanda,
>>Sac> NothingNothing is fixed in REBOL.
>>
> unfortunately that can also be read:
>
> ... it was broken from the start.
>
> and that is NOT an impression we want to convey :-(
>
Then let's run with that perspective:
REBO
Hello all,
First version of Rebol API to my object-oriented database DyBASE is
ready. It can be downloaded from my site:
http://www.garret.ru/~knizhnik/dybase.html
DyBASE is embedded object oriented database for languages with dynamic
type checking. Rebol is fourth language for which DyBASE API
Hi Carl,
--- Carl Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >
>
> I was trying to get at that with...
>
> REBOL: XML can't parse itself.
>
> using a similar style to what's on the site. ie...
>
> Pascal: Algol doesn't have enough data types.
>
Oh, now I get it. Excellent!
Hi all,
I'm a new user in your mailing-list.
I noticed many upgrades (bug-fix, enhancements, etc...) were performed in
Rebol/View/Pro (please look at below, for example). But, what about Rebol
Command/View? I bought Rebol command/view, and I don't know how to upgrade
it to fix bugs. If I use "up
On 17-Dec-03, Ged Byrne wrote:
> Looking at it again, the challange was "to describe
> [the language] in terms of the problem it fixes." [1]
> This is very different from a marketing slogan. For
> example, the one-liner for lisp is
>
> "Lisp: Turing Machines are an awkward way to describe
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