Re: help wanted

2016-02-22 Thread Ed Darrell
How does Congress get around the first requirement of laws on religion, that "Congress shall make no law?" Interesting question, but like the computer said in War Games, perhaps "the only way to win is not to play." Ed DarrellDallas From: Steven Jamar To: Law Religion & Law List

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-29 Thread Ed Darrell
ent speech, nor the same as government accommodation of speech or religion. Ed Darrell Dallas From: "Volokh, Eugene" To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 7:53 PM Subject: RE: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport #

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-28 Thread Ed Darrell
something that way. Ed DarrellDallas From: Alan E Brownstein To: Ed Darrell ; Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport #yiv6280040225 #yiv6280040225 -- _filte

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-28 Thread Ed Darrell
o the religious verse citations listed on the soft-drink cups at In-n-Out Burgers. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Justin Butterfield To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:58 PM Subject: Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airpo

Re: Muslim-focused "reflection room" in airport

2015-10-28 Thread Ed Darrell
rican Airlines), the most complaints we got was on chapel signage. Passengers found it difficult to figure out where they were. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Alan E Brownstein To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2015 12:41 PM Subject: RE: Muslim-

Re: science professor lecture

2014-09-30 Thread Ed Darrell
lasses. One steps out on faith when one makes religious claims against evolution. So they shouldn't be made in science classes, by honest people of faith. IMHO. Your mileage shouldn't vary. Ed Darrell Dallas On Tuesday, September 30, 2014 6:36 AM, Eric Treene wrote: > &g

Re: Science Lecture

2014-09-29 Thread Ed Darrell
nd science. Not unconstitutional, but tragic. Denial of reality like that seems to me to fall into Sloth and Pride, especially when coming from theologians. Sitting on the razor in my Texas congregation, Ed Darrell Dallas On Sunday, September 28, 2014 9:45 PM, "Finkelman, Paul&q

Re: New Twist On Challenge to ACA Contraceptive Mandate

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Darrell
ent cup at most restaurants for less than 50 cents.  They chose the coffee. He said with a wink that it was not a sin if he didn't enjoy it, too much. There are alternative solutions well short of the legal system for a lot of these issues, it seems to me. Ed Darrell Dallas __

Re: New Twist On Challenge to ACA Contraceptive Mandate

2013-08-15 Thread Ed Darrell
All he needs to do is decline the policy offered.  This is not a case in controversy.  I predict dismissal. Ed Darrell Dallas From: "Penalver, Eduardo" To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2013 10:06 AM Su

Re: New Suit Argues Prop 8 Is Still Enforceable

2013-07-16 Thread Ed Darrell
Good news, for a change! If I had a dime for every time a rumor about some new form of repression from the right turned out to be false, I'd have easily $1.50 t $2.00.  Ed Darrell From: Steven Jamar To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academi

Re: Request...

2013-03-19 Thread Ed Darrell
Color photo here: http://www.freedomforum.org/graphics/2000/09/photos/lemon.alton.9.21.00.jpg Is it Alton T. Lemon? Ed Darrell Dallas From: William Janssen To: "religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu" Sent: Tue, March 19, 2013 10:09:32 AM Subjec

Re: Request...

2013-03-19 Thread Ed Darrell
A photo of Mr. Lemon can be found at the Freedom From Religion Foundation: http://ffrf.org/news/day/?day=19&month=10#lemon Ed Darrell Dallas From: William Janssen To: "religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu" Sent: Tue, March 19, 2013 10:09:32 AM Su

Re: Voucher programs

2012-08-09 Thread Ed Darrell
I once wrote to Milton Friedman to ask for examples he knew of where vouchers had worked. I needed them for speeches I was writing. Never did get an answer. Is he the guy the Friedman Foundation is named for ? Ed Darrell Dallas From: "Pybas, Kevin M

Re: Basketball tournaments on the Sabbath

2012-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
27;ve scheduled the game to fit it in. Good, good news. Ed Darrell Dallas From: Alan Brownstein To: Law & Religion issues for Law Academics Sent: Fri, March 2, 2012 3:35:05 PM Subject: RE: Basketball tournaments on the Sabbath A somewhat similar la

RE: "Harassment"

2011-03-03 Thread Ed Darrell
free speech contest? Or am I barking up a telephone pole here? Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Volokh, Eugene wrote: From: Volokh, Eugene Subject: RE: "Harassment" To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics" Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 12:08 AM   

Re: Gamaliel: A Historical Question

2011-02-04 Thread Ed Darrell
Why didn't I think of that. Still curious about President Harding -- if anyone stumbles into the information, let me know! Thanks. Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Vance R. Koven wrote: From: Vance R. Koven Subject: Re: Gamaliel: A Historical Question To: "Law & Relig

RE: Gamaliel: A Historical Question

2011-02-04 Thread Ed Darrell
Sorta off topic question:  How do you pronounce "Gamaliel?"  Is there a story to how Warren Harding got that for a middle name? Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Fri, 2/4/11, Wallace, E. Gregory wrote: From: Wallace, E. Gregory Subject: RE: Gamaliel: A Historical Question To: "Law &a

Re: Augusta State University student sues school over requirement that she undergo "remediation" due to her religious views

2010-07-28 Thread Ed Darrell
line of work. Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Rick Garnett wrote: From: Rick Garnett Subject: Re: Augusta State University student sues school over requirement that she undergo "remediation" due to her religious views To: "Law & Religion issues for Law Academics&qu

Re: Augusta State University student sues school over requirementthat she undergo "remediation" due to her religious views

2010-07-28 Thread Ed Darrell
investigative boards (like the National Conference of Bar Examiners, or whatever name it goes by these days), federal regulation of hospitals and procedures, etc., etc.  A student's hair length is almost anarchic, in contrast. Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Wed, 7/28/10, Paul Finkelman wrote: From:

Re: FW: Public Housing Authority Says No More On-Site Church Services

2010-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
law is as described by cynical critics, and not as the law actually is. Gee, wish I had some time to track it down. Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Thu, 3/4/10, Volokh, Eugene wrote: From: Volokh, Eugene Subject: FW: Public Housing Authority Says No More On-Site Church Services To: "'Law &

RE: Impact of same-sex marriage rulings on strict scrutiny in religious exemption cases

2009-04-08 Thread Ed Darrell
uaded is the public court, not the one vested with the legal authority.  In many ways, that court has already ruled. How will the legal courts catch up? Ed Darrell Dallas --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Roger Severino wrote: From: Roger Severino Subject: RE: Impact of same-sex marriage rulings on stri

RE: Kid misrecites the Pledge of Allegiance - can he be graded down for that?

2008-08-29 Thread Ed Darrell
No, I don't know the child's age. I am assuming, due to the nature of the assignment, that the child is in a grade below 6th. Interesting responses on this one. A lot of light in a very dark area. Ed Darrell Dallas James Maule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Kid misrecites the Pledge of Allegiance - can he be graded down for that?

2008-08-28 Thread Ed Darrell
I can convey to the family? Thanks! Not my case, I'm grateful to say. Not my homework, either. What should the parents do? Ed Darrell Dallas ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or g

RE: Bible class rules set for Texas schools - Faith- msnbc.com

2008-07-22 Thread Ed Darrell
tc. By the way, I don't think the divorce rate has doubled. I think it's dropping, in fact. Anybody got a current statistic? Ed Darrell Working in Dallas to get the curriculum planned out for 2008-2009, no thanks to the State School Board Gordon James Klingenschmitt <[EMAI

Re: An email of possible relevance

2007-12-17 Thread Ed Darrell
sible purpose would be served by adding that line in, other than knocking otu something already there? Ed Darrell Dallas Alan Leigh Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have heard (hearsay) someone say that FDR gave two speeches that day one with "so help us God." and one without.

Re: An email of possible relevance

2007-12-17 Thread Ed Darrell
f the speech (it's almost 8 minutes): http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/real/decwarsp.rm Here's the text from the FDR Library: http://www.fdrlibrary.marist.edu/decwart.html That's the one Congress got. Ed Darrell Dallas Alan Leigh Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I hav

Re: Michigan RLUIPA suit

2007-11-09 Thread Ed Darrell
More Center probably didn't exist prior to 1983.) There are safety and environmental concerns. This is an old zoning issue. Are there special conditions for this case that might change the outcome? Ed Darrell Dallas Ed Brayton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Messa

Re: IIED and vagueness

2007-11-01 Thread Ed Darrell
legal journal. That's what I get for responding while on hold with a government agency I was arguing with. Ed Darrell Dallas Steven Jamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sorry, Ed, but I'm missing the problem. Free exercise or free speech -- is that the conflict you ar

Re: IIED and vagueness

2007-11-01 Thread Ed Darrell
Just out of curiosity, what happens in a hypothetical if the family of the soldier claims the funeral is a religious service which deserves special protection from such disruption? Let's assume the family has a long record of attending church -- oh, heck, let's assume the soldier is himself a R

Re: wwc -- semis

2007-09-23 Thread Ed Darrell
I thought it was a good discussion for the list. Drat! Ed Darrell Dallas Steven Jamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: My apologies to the list -- I have no idea how or why google put this address into this private email! Some bug in gmail I've run into once before. Steve On 9/23/07,

Re: "Mormon Student, Justice, ACLU Join Up"

2007-08-30 Thread Ed Darrell
rs of questions in elders' quorums, queries from potential spouses' parents, and the general disapproval of everyone a person knows, would think it's a voluntary sort of thing that is optional, and no big deal. People are encouraged to breathe, but it's not required . . .

Re: "Mormon Student, Justice, ACLU Join Up"

2007-08-30 Thread Ed Darrell
Now, should federal law require it? If West Virginia doesn't have a Blaine amendment in its constitution, doesn't its state constitution require it, too? Ed Darrell Dallas "Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any thoughts on this? http://www.foxnews.co

Re: CFR for conscientious objectors removed

2007-07-11 Thread Ed Darrell
n the list who could explain why there's little effect, if that's the case? Ed Darrell Dallas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just an informational item. The Department of Defense on June 19 withdrew from publication in the CFR the regulations concerning conscientious objection,

Re: FW: Texas legislature adds "under God" to Texas flag pledge

2007-05-21 Thread Ed Darrell
if Texans bellyache much more about being only the second largest state in the union in land area, Alaska will petition for splitting, making Texas the third largest. Not much chance of that, either. Ed Darrell Dallas Paul Finkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: alternatively, Texas

Re: Are churches "public venues" for NFL purposes?

2007-02-03 Thread Ed Darrell
ople and had already contracted for the refreshments, how would I calculate the dollar value of the different alternatives open? Ed Darrell Dallas "David E. Guinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There are several policy and politics issues arising in this exception:

Are churches "public venues" for NFL purposes?

2007-02-03 Thread Ed Darrell
7;d want to defend a right for a church congregation to watch an NFL game, but I wonder if the NFL hasn't overreached here, just a bit. Your opinions? Ed Darrell Dallas Louisville Courier-Journal: http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070201/SPORTS/702

Re: Victory for Military Chaplains Who Pray "In Jesus Name"

2006-09-30 Thread Ed Darrell
dn't live up to the same high standards?  Why not follow the example of our founders, and avoid insulting the faiths of others?   Ed Darrell DallasGordon James Klingenschmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Perhaps Marty's right about one thing...our modern "enlightened&quo

Re: Atheists disqualified from holding office or testifying as witness

2006-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
nt handles the issue.   But it would be a good plot device for a novel:  Murderer commits the crime in front of an atheist, then moves to disqualify the eyewitness account at trial on the basis of Article 19 of the Alabama Constitution . . .   Ed Darrell DallasJoel <[EMAIL PROT

Re: Teenagers &The Spirit of Liberty

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Darrell
uling from a federal court is not enough to preserve religious rights against a mob.  I'm deeply troubled by that.   Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Here is the way I look at it. "One poor kid" tried to censor his classmates with the help of

RE: Re: Teenagers &The Spirit of Liberty

2006-05-23 Thread Ed Darrell
, one wonders how lawyers for each side might argue it affects such a case.   Ed Darrell Dallas"David E. Guinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (inter alia):This strikes me as theologically incoherent as well as constitutionally troubling (though more in terms of constitutional mor

RE: Boy Scouts, Title VII, and the ministerial exemption

2006-03-09 Thread Ed Darrell
ntrast the two organizations and how they deal with these issues.   I would like a copy of whatever you write up on the issue, if you don't mind.   Ed Darrell Dallas"Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'd think there aren't any legal implications from the

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
27;t it?   Ed Darrell Dallas"Vance R. Koven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't know about Dallas, but they certainly do in Boston, especiallyaround the time of the gay pride parade.VanceOn 3/4/06, Ed Darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:>> Alas, lack of understanding won

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
And, by the way -- do you know of any city that has put up a gay pride banner?  How many times has this happened?   Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I read the text of the Mo resolution, and what I read there between the lines is not so much the desire to make C

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-04 Thread Ed Darrell
favor action over argument?   Ed Darrell DallasPaul Finkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Creches on public property are only legal if surrounded by Santa,! a few clowns, candy canes and enough other junk to destroy the religious meaing; the 10 commandments on texas lawn was legal only bec

Re: Missouri declares Christianity its official religion.

2006-03-03 Thread Ed Darrell
hem that what they ask is already the law?   Ed Darrell DallasSteven Jamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: is this much different from Reagan's [in]famous proclamation that ! we are Christian country?  The resolution seems not to be any sort of law with impact -- just some hortatory langua

Re: State RFRA and nonreligious groups thathaveconscientiousobjections to antidiscrimination laws

2006-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
gated for leaders only.   Ed Darrell DallasPaul Diamond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A problem is that the Govt. enters the 'moral arena' in an ideological (not societal sense)in which a particular viewpoint is promoted. (ie. homosexuality is good, or not good). Either position te

Re: State RFRA and nonreligious groups thathaveconscientiousobjections to antidiscrimination laws

2006-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
osition reversed, that the BSA National Council required sponsoring organizations to allow homosexuals as leaders:  How would such a rule be interpreted with regard to Mormon, Catholic, or Muslim sponsors?    In the end, Scouting may not be enough of a religious monolith to be able to ma

RE: Boy Scouts, Title VII, and the ministerial exemption

2006-03-02 Thread Ed Darrell
ons.   Why do you ask, Eugene?  Is this a wholly hypothetical situation (I hope)?   Ed Darrell DallasAlan Brownstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I think the answer to this question depends on what the Scouts believeand why they require a belief in G-d and reverence to G-d as a conditionf

RE: Draft ID statutory language

2006-01-26 Thread Ed Darrell
truth, and in the prac! tice of law.    Will the legislature be in session when the science changes?  I don't think a case is yet made that current systems are inadequate to determine what is known by science and what gets put in the textbooks.   Ed Darrell Dallas"Gibbens, Dan

Re: Draft ID statutory language

2006-01-26 Thread Ed Darrell
ristian Scientists, I think.    Is there any valid reason to want to contradict so much science -- valid secular or religious reason?   I haven't had my coffee yet.  I may be missing problems with the language, but that's my first reaction.   Ed Darrell Dallas "Gibbens, Dan

Re: Removing Purpose-Prong "Taint"

2006-01-09 Thread Ed Darrell
Compare the Alabama "moment of silence" case with Brown v. Georgia.  Does that qualify?   Ed Darrell Dallas"Conkle, Daniel O." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I've been asked the following question and don't have a good answer: Do you know of a case from a

RE: Home Schooling and Real Covenants

2006-01-03 Thread Ed Darrell
ously-dedicated land and mineral rights (and I suppose the litigation over Black Mesa in Arizona might be the case).    Way behind on keeping up with this area of law, Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Doug Laycock writes:   "Unfortunately, RLUIPA defines lan

RE: Home Schooling and Real Covenants

2006-01-03 Thread Ed Darrell
I'd think that more advantage for homeschoolers could be obtained with judicial note of the idea that education is not a nuisance, but quite the opposite.  Calling educational activities "noxious" surely runs counter to public policy in every state, doesn't it?   Ed

Re: Regarding "A note about the Atheist Legal Center"

2006-01-03 Thread Ed Darrell
In the Mermelstein case in California, the judge took judicial note of the accuracy of the history of the Holacaust.  Was there a number mentioned in that decision?   Ed Darrell DallasPaul Finkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: fair enough; I am just trying to get Larry Darby to expla

Re: Dover Case Questions

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
igh school classroom, without raising eyebrows, at least.   Ed Darrell Dallas"Vance R. Koven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As one who over the last few weeks has been made painfully--very painfully--aware of this design, it appears to point to the inescapable reality that there i

Re: Dover Case Questions

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
t's not made by school boards that micromanage, either.    Ed Darrell Dallas   Steven Jamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: so! mething can be true without being the full truth.2+2 = 4.  That is true.But it does a poor job of fully describing nature.  Or math.Setve O

Re: Dover Case Questions

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
nce of any possible answer to that question points to the lack of science behind ID.  That is the whole issue.   Ed Darrell DallasPerry Dane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Robert Lipkin wrote:>I would argue that Steve's inference from the facts of "disease, war,>violence, in

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-21 Thread Ed Darrell
epeat the cases, and outcomes.   Ed Darrell Dallas   [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In a message dated 12/21/2005 8:42:58 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Interesting that you think that a judge's  job does not include being aware of the political impact of his or her d

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
trowels as trowels, and spades as spades! .  Judge Jones' carefully labeling a lie as a lie should leave no question, at least.   Ed Darrell DallasBrad Pardee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Perhaps.  If he had stopped at saying he believed they lied, that would be one thing.  When th

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
s case.  Consequently, I don't think the issue gratuitous at all.  I think Judge Jones' standing up for high standards on this issue is a good thing.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, Ed Darrell distorts my post.  I never said or implied that Kuhn&#x

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
x27;s been reported separately by two newspapers and captured on videotape.    Judge Jones was probably wise to include this statement about the defendants' testimony, as a help for appellate courts.   Ed Darrell DallasBrad M Pardee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The judge wrote, "T

Re: Dover Intelligent-Design Case

2005-12-20 Thread Ed Darrell
onist advocates chose to try to subvert the legal machinery rather than go into the lab.    Shakespeare was right about tangled webs.  In nature, of course, we don't find tangled webs.  Judge Jones saw that, and noted it accurately.  IMHO, of course.   Ed Darrell Dallas [EM

RE: Public schools and parents

2005-11-28 Thread Ed Darrell
faith after striking down Alabama's law.  If evolution critics want to make a label to avoid religious offense while withstanding judicial scrutiny, they need to compose a warning that avoids religious defense, too.&nb! sp; There's the rub.   Ed Darrell Dallas"Volokh, Eugene&

Re: Public schools and parents

2005-11-28 Thread Ed Darrell
hen the science is taught, why not simply disclaim that religious view and leave the science alone?  Surely it would be within the law for a governmental agency to note that it makes no religious endorsement in a given case, in support of Constitutional principles.   Ed Darrell Dallas    [

Re: Kansas and Intelligent Design: A Twist

2005-11-23 Thread Ed Darrell
rnment steps in to shore up ID, ID will fade away if it is not workable science.  That is true of almost all science applications.   Ed Darrell Dallas "Christopher C. Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't want to get into an argument defending ID. Others do it better. And I do

Re: Kansas and Intelligent Design: A Twist

2005-11-22 Thread Ed Darrell
1831 and 1836.   Do you know who is teaching the course, and whether there are any recommended texts?   Ed Darrell Dallas"Christopher C. Lund" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The University of Kansas is planning to teach a course on intelligent design next semester. But it's not a sc

Re: Bronx Household of Faith v New York Schools

2005-11-21 Thread Ed Darrell
#x27;m surprised, with Ed Brayton, that this case is still in the system.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't the key question whether the public schools rent to groups 52 weeks/year for long periods of time?  Many of the church-planting initiatives involve using the school t

RE: Bronx Household of Faith v New York Schools

2005-11-21 Thread Ed Darrell
gh I am interested in the Nebraskans singing Texas aspect,   Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I guess I don't understand the difference between "speech on a religious topic" and a "religious service." The "services" I attend most Sun

Re: Cornell's Interim President addresses Intelligent Design

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Darrell
My apologies to the list.  Wrong Art.  Wrong list.  I need more coffee.   Ed DarrellEd Darrell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You graduated from Cornell, and moved to Kentucky?  ___ To post, send message to Religionlaw@lists.ucla.edu To subscribe, unsubscrib

Re: Cornell's Interim President addresses Intelligent Design

2005-10-22 Thread Ed Darrell
You graduated from Cornell, and moved to Kentucky?   Cornell's student paper has had several ID pieces in the last year.  Is it a bit of a campus controversy?  Rawlings seems eminently rational on the issue.  Watch for attacks from the ID camp.   And thanks for the URL.   Ed[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

RE: New lawsuit against U Cal Berkeley

2005-10-18 Thread Ed Darrell
ing a statement that is factual, and which does not offend them, either.   Ed Darrell Dallas   "Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Unless I'm mistaken, all the views noted on the site(http://www.ncseweb.org/resources/articles/7445_statements_from_religious_org_12_19_2002

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-16 Thread Ed Darrell
ut infringing on anyone's religious freedoms.    Without additional action to infer religious intent on the part of the band director, I think it would be difficult to maintain a case that a marching band's instrumental music violates the reasonable separation of church and state.    Ed Da

Re: "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"

2005-10-15 Thread Ed Darrell
music without objection.    Duncanville's school lawyers may be more up on the law than other school lawyers.   Ed Darrell Dallas (Duncanville ISD, by the way)"Volokh, Eugene" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An amusing little incident; thanks to Becky Dale for thepointer:http://w

Re: Air Force sued over religious intolerance

2005-10-08 Thread Ed Darrell
the soldiers' rights, not exercise their own.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, of course, has taken my points out of context.  When a recruit seeks out a chaplain for information about the chaplain's religion, that is entirely different from a chaplain engaging in proselyti

Re: Public Schools, Intolerance & Christian Dancers

2005-10-07 Thread Ed Darrell
ADF is larger than ACLU now?  Amazing.   Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Here is an ADF press release concerning a victory in a public school censorship case: On with the show: ADF secures student's right to dance to religious music Once-censored song back

Re: Garza?

2005-09-05 Thread Ed Darrell
How are we counting Cardozo?   Ed DarrellRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Now that the President has nominated Roberts for CJ, any predictions on who will be nominated to fill O'C's seat?   Here is mine--Judge Emilio Garza of the 5th Circuit (New Orleans).   This is a political 3-base hit--G

Re: CNN: Bush will nominate Roberts

2005-09-05 Thread Ed Darrell
But don't forget Roberts' time as clerk, and his Washington experience.  Plus, soon there will be another new justice, with less time on the Court than Roberts has.  There will be a shuffling of relationships, and a lot of new ties formed (and rather quickly, everyone hopes).    The big question r

Re: Every Idea is an Incitement

2005-09-04 Thread Ed Darrell
xercise.  There is no Constitutional right against being offended.  There is a Constitutional right not to have religion imposed, even one's own religion (see Lee v. Weisman, for example).  Religious views of students are even protected.    Ed Darrell DallasSteven Jamar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&g

Re: Floodwaters and Undermined Walls

2005-09-02 Thread Ed Darrell
inst the governor of Louisiana.  Her call for prayer doesn't exhibit any of the problems Judge Dement noted in the earlier case.   Let's not get distracted by unlikely hypotheticals.  North Carolina, Florida, Texas, and other coastal areas can still be saved, with action.   Ed Darrell Dallas[E

Re: Floodwaters and Undermined Walls

2005-09-01 Thread Ed Darrell
to a church up the street, away from the government hall, for prayer and a sermon.  I think Judge Dement would have approved of that, too.     Surely there should be no less separation after incorporation.    We can learn a lot from history.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message da

Re: Military Distribution of Bibles

2005-08-31 Thread Ed Darrell
l, although the presentation may be made by the Chaplain in charge, if necessary."   Here's their website:  http://www.gideons.org/faq.html   Ed Darrell DallasGordon James Klingenschmitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The mass distribution of Bibles to new recruits is generally done b

Re: UC system sued

2005-08-28 Thread Ed Darrell
Jim, do you mean like Mormons and Moslems who do not accept communism on religious reasons?  No, they don't get a pass on the parts of the history or economics exams that deal with communism.    Are there other examples?   Ed Darrell DallasJames Maule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Re: UC system sued

2005-08-28 Thread Ed Darrell
everybody else has?  And if the religious kid chooses not to study a given subject, why should the consequences of not studying the subject be different for a religious kid than for anyone else who didn't study the subject?     Ed Darrell DallasJames Maule <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrot

Re: UC system sued

2005-08-27 Thread Ed Darrell
pick one example, having taken Advanced Placement Calculus is not considered automatically as having understood the subject well enough to avoid taking it as the university teaches it.  A bad calculus book can sink a kid's hopes for advanced placement in calculus.  Why wouldn't a good unive

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-23 Thread Ed Darrell
r could say about the situation.  I regret that.   Ed Darrell Dallas   Francis Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Although I defend (and defended at the time) the professor’s academic freedom to be discretionary in writing letters of recommendation, I don’t think that Ed’s depiction of what

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-23 Thread Ed Darrell
dotal evidence.   Ed Darrell DallasNewsom Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark, with due respect, I don't think that there is an equivalence here.The news reports about students being driven away from science rest onempirical data. There is no empirical data that the questioner at the

Re: No Secular Purpose

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
affront to Christians.  Before lawyers told them the law, that was the argument of school board members in Pennsylvania, too.  As an active and practicing Christian, I have difficulty figuring out what these peole say is offensive in evolution.  That is evidence again that it's a sectarian

RE: Religious Polygamy

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
.  There remain some areas where information and education are still our best tools against disease.   Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Does Sandy now agree with me that male on male anal sodomy is "victim-causing" behavior? If so, then the law could rational

Re: No Secular Purpose

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
" that would be acceptable to ID advocates, I think.  A fair curriculum would of necessity expose the manifold errors of ID, and ID advocates would protest.  That's why high school biology texts take it so easy on creationism now.   Creationists need courses in evidence in civil procedure, not

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
e churches make adaptations as best they can.   Ed Darrell DallasFrankie Beckwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Could not a claim both be scientific and religious at the same time? Conceptually, I don't see any problem with that. But this raises an interesting problem. Suppose a particular sc

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-21 Thread Ed Darrell
suspect, when it becomes clear that teaching the controversy frustrates teaching the facts that are necessary to understand the controversy.   Ed Darrell Dallas   Rick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, Ed, I think you are just misreading the decision. The case was decided based solely

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
g the question.  All such commentaries assume that science has been demonstrated, but that assumption has not been borne out in any court, and I don't think it can be.   Ed Darrell Dallas   Rick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Edwards did not hold that "creation science" could

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
rors of evolution history as well as the basic theory.    Health and public health are rife with stories of goofs that led to evolution of newer and hardier breeds of germs and the insects and vermin who carry them.  Keeping to the old Hippocratic Oath standard of, "First, do no harm," becomes

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-20 Thread Ed Darrell
the Earth.   And, in any case, it's a college level exam.  There is no way this outline could be presented as evidence of what high school texts and curricula say.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/20/2005 12:48:40 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
audience might make a lot of these cases go away.   Ed Darrell DallasSanford Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:   Jim writes: I believe you have a heart.  I suggested nothing to the contrary.  I think a physician who believes his competence is confined to the clinical observation that bra

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
n Ohio, in Kansas, and in Dover, Pennsylvania.    These are evidence issues, I think.  In a fair fight, the evidence is solidly in back of Darwinian ideas.    Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/19/2005 6:02:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What I have s

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
vagus nerve, which is quite real in all mammals, and sharks, and fishes.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/19/2005 5:50:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We have methods for determining good science from bad, or current science from disprove

Re: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
, tends to smoke out charlatans and frauds.  Stock brokers are willing to risk their retirement money on evolution.  That's a powerful indicator to a free marketeer like me.  It also tends to sway judges, but not school boards.   Ed Darrell Dallas[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 8/

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
); ID advocates ask that legislators get to make the decision.   Ed Darrell Dallas   Sanford Levinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I don't think the Establishment Clause requires that labelling; I think that respect for science requires it.  Indeed, I think it might violate the EC to fo

RE: Findings on Hostility at Smithsonian Noted in NRO Article

2005-08-19 Thread Ed Darrell
to qualify as science.  If some claim that it frustrates their religion, them's the breaks.    We have methods for determining good science from bad, or current science from disproven science.  Those methods work fine with ID.    Ed Darrell DallasRick Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: An

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