What booth? - Original Message - From: Paul Finch Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 1:06 AM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [Repeater-Builder] Consolette Base Hello,I have some Master Exec II base stations, will have them at Dayton thisyear.PaulWB5IDM-Original
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 16:11:48 -0400, Q wrote:
Diamond F23A monobander and it works as well
Same luck here with the Diamond brand. While our
local TV station was putting up a new tower which
our club occupied, we ran a UHF repeater AND our
APRS node off of a X-510.
Would it last even 10
Thanks to all of the replies about the UHF Motorola consolette.
As always, your experience and input is appreciated...
Jimmy Floyd
NQ4U
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If you want to deter innermod you will need to use something like rg-142
which is double shielded, why bother with only having a good shield at
the connector area when the remaining cable will leak in rf like a panty
hose fire nozzle?
David Schornak wrote:
thanks all for the info i Have found
Can you advise on the wind shear load and if the manufacturer will rate
it at 120 MPH so it could be used on a commercial site within 5 miles of
navigable water? Do you use an swr meter on your equipment to analyze
reflected power, how broad is the bandwidth and what stability is the
impedance at
thanks that is why I was asking I figured that everyone here would know the
answer and give me good suggestions so I will get some rg-142 only need a
foot or so.
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This cable is always handy for other jumpers, get several feet in case
you want to add a filter or pre-amp, it works good on wattmeter jumpers
also.
David Schornak wrote:
thanks that is why I was asking I figured that everyone here would know the
answer and give me good suggestions so I will
Hi Kevin,
I will readily admit thatavailable PM exciters can have all sorts of shortcomings. The operative word is 'available' or readily available. While I'll admit that there isn't anything inherently evil with the PM modulation scheme, FM is easy We have manufacturers that have
I'll be in Kevin's back yard next weekend (the 17th/18th,
I think). Any chance of getting a couple? :-)
Joe M.
Joe Montierth wrote:
Joe, Bob, etc:
I have sent the boards to Kevin and Scott. They will
be stuffing the boads, etc. This should be faster than
me doing them, because the boards
In a message dated 4/6/2004 4:40:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why not call it what it is FM and PM ?
Yup, I agree!
While the results of FM or PM can be received as FM if voice is used thereare a few things that FM will do beter.. PM just does not work very
Kevin Custer wrote:
Yes, we drive on a parkway and park in driveways. We also use FM
radios on VHF and UHF and manufacturers build new ones every day.
Don't forget - few people actually use UHF connectors on UHF radios!
Yea, but it likely won't happen since it seems that FM modulators
I SERIOUSLY urge you to use RG-400 instead of RG-142.
I'll repeat the pointer to the reason why:
% You want double shielded cable for that... look here...
% http://www.repeater-builder.com/rbtip/double-shielded-coax.html
Mike WA6ILQ
At 11:16 PM 4/6/04 -0400, you wrote:
This cable is always
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Hi Kevin,
When we (Scott and I) go to build a repeater for
someone or are talking about
a radio set that has or needs an FM modulator, it
gets referred to as true
FM. This helps us to eliminate confusion about what
type of modulator needs to
be installed
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I will readily admit that available PM exciters
can have all sorts of shortcomings. They distort
when you ask for a lot of deviation at very low
frequencies like CTCSS. There are inherent
nonlinearities in the varactor tank circuit
that create a little
Hi all
I've been watching the threads on audio reproduction. I would like to go back to the orginal question that started all this, what is the best way to improve the audio being reproduced in a Micor repeater?
My repeater system is somewhat different than most, I am running a complet
Admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i picked up a workman uvs-300 for $55 , its the
same antenna as the diamond XMa-510 , 11.3
db on 440 and 8.5 db on 144 , and so far we have
thrown up to 50 watts uhf into it and have
worked 440 machines about 100 miles away
Have you checked
Not real sure if this will help, but Ten mile away may have a loss in
the delay of the audio to the repeater .The distance may causes a bit
of a fuzz sound .
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Hi all
I've been watching the threads on audio reproduction. I would
Hi Joe,
I think Bob has finally gone over the edge. :)
It had to happen eventually :-)
I was humorously trying to make the point that'True FM' is amarketing term and that we technical typesought toignore it.The editors of the ARRL Handbooksay so, too- - in my 1996 copy, it's on page
Hi All!
My Weather Spotters are mad at me! Help!
Are there any technical papers out there that describe repeater/radio performance as a function of heavy rain / thunderstorms / severe weather? Where the weather is an attenuation of RF?
Let me describe the scenario.
As we all know its
Just a heads up! I bought an RC-210 Controller form Ken Arc with Arcom
Communications and han nothing but problems with it. I sent it back
several times to have problems fixed and got tired of sending it in so
asked for my money back on the controller and got burnned! Yes he
would never give me my
Does andy one have any thoughts on Dual-Band verses Single-Band
Antennas on a Repeater? Is a Dual-Bander a compromise on a Repeater
for performance? Can the Dual-Band causes problems because of resonant
elements in a nother band? Thanks.
Eric (N7JYS)
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Mike,
Theway amicor base repeater is set up from the factoryis
to usede-emphasis and pre-emphasis through the machine. The discriminator
is de-emph'd, run through the control circuitry and then pre-emph'd in the true
FM exciter. (hence the lengthy discussion)
Anyway, looking at your
To the group as a whole
I kind of had a feeling that there was more to the equation than met the eye
at first blush!! I have never found Ken to be non-responsive to a customer
request. He has always been Johnny on the spot in our dealings. Ken and
I worked through a few documentation
The primary reason not to run fans 24/7 is dirt, as most radio repeater
sites are generally less than clean environments, we all have to go clean
the crud out of the fans, heat sinks, power supplies, etc. on a regular
bases. The more the fan runs the faster the dirt and crud builds up inside
the
Sounds like corona discharge problem like we used to have on a 2-meter
machine here.
What are you running for an antenna? How is the antenna system
grounded?
It's not unusual to have this effect using a co-linear style antenna at
some sites.
Chuck
WB2EDV
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Hi Joe,
It was argued (by Bob @ S-Com) that "If you choose the FM, it must beaccompanied by a preemphasis circuit that covers the entire voice audiospectrum" while you do not on a PM exciter. I will point to the listname and remind everyone that when using discriminator audio, you do NOTneed
umm i believe it a shear of 105 mph and 90 mph ice loaded , and yes
its sealed with o rings so yes even coastal marine applications
apply , and yes every thing is verified with swr meters , both at the
antenna and at the back of the transmitter
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the vhf has 140 - 160 1.7:1 end to end and 144- 156 mhz 1.3:1 ,
uhf had , (collar down) 420 -440 1.4:1 end to end , and 430 -438 1.3:1
, ( collar up) 440 - 470 1.7:1 end to end , and 441- 449.800 1.3:1
checked witha 5 watt HT and the swr meter attached to the antenna ,
Mike how did you do the link? did you
make the micor 1/2 6 meter the other 440? or did you set up a complete two site
ra/rp configuration like in the moto book?
When linking two micor base or repeaters I
use a line driver to the link xmiter.If for full duplex I use a 4 wire
line driver.
Hi Terry,
I would like to say that last years discussions of FM,PM, Exciter wars, emphasis, Fourier mathematics, clipping and limiting was very educational. Wouldn't hurt to have some of that stuff put together in a FAQ.
Agreed, andI've saved the most important messages.. maybe Kevin has,
Hi Skipp,
And we've seen some sloppy engineering in the design of the audio and limiter circuits.What you're saying here Bob... is that you've owned at least one Icom IC-230 at some time in the past. :-)
While the mobiles probably suffer from the same kind of engineering shortcuts, I was
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In a message dated 4/6/2004 4:40:39 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Why not call it what it is FM and PM ?
Yup, I agree!
Because if you ask John Q. Ham what his radio is, he
will say FM regardless of whether it is really PM or not.
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