Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-07 Thread Scott Zimmerman
Mike,   The way a micor base repeater is set up from the factory is to use de-emphasis and pre-emphasis through the machine. The discriminator is de-emph'd, run through the control circuitry and then pre-emph'd in the true FM exciter. (hence the lengthy discussion)   Anyway, looking at your

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-07 Thread Kevin King
Mike how did you do the link?  did you make the micor 1/2 6 meter the other 440? or did you set up a complete two site ra/rp configuration like in the moto book?     When linking two micor base or repeaters I use a line driver to the link xmiter. If for full duplex I use a 4 wire line driv

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-08 Thread Virden Clark Beckman
Oh, don't do this - the coors brewery will have to work overtime during the summer months when families want to vacation with the kids out of school. I think someones eyes have swelled shut already, is the micor a pm or fm on both ends? -- 73...Clark Beckman N8PZD Yahoo! Groups Links <*>

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-08 Thread Kevin Custer
Hi, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all   I've been watching the threads on audio reproduction. I would like to go back to the orginal question that started all this, what is the best way to improve the audio being reproduced in a Micor repeater?    My repeater system is somewhat d

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-08 Thread mch
Can't be. I say that because I've worked on Low Band Micors with DPL. I don't recall if they were 30 MHz or 47 MHz. Joe M. > Kevin Custer wrote: > > I could be wrong, but I believe all low band > Micor exciters (including Stations) are PM. Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on t

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-09 Thread Neil McKie
Hello all, > Kevin Custer wrote: > > Hi, > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Hi all > > I've been watching the threads on audio reproduction. I would > > like to go back to the orginal question that started all this, > > what is the best way to improve the audio being reproduced in a >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-09 Thread scomind
Hi Kevin,   I could be wrong, but I believe all low band Micor exciters (including Stations) are PM.  This is likely the case because it is difficult to modulate the crystal frequency via direct FM, retain good linearity, and achieve 5 kc's of final deviation due to the multiplication factor. 

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-09 Thread mch
Neil McKie wrote: > > Low band Micor Station manual P/n 68P81013E60-F dated 2/11/77: > > Exciter Model Series consiting of the following: > > > Channel Element Req'd >ModelFreq Range Carrier Digital > and PL (tone) PL > >

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio

2004-04-09 Thread Kevin Custer
mch wrote: Neil McKie wrote: Low band Micor Station manual P/n 68P81013E60-F dated 2/11/77: Exciter Model Series consiting of the following: Channel Element Req'd ModelFreq Range Carrier Digital and PL (ton

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples

2009-07-02 Thread Scott Zimmerman
While I don't have any recordings for you, I can assure you that ALL machines I build have audio responses that sound as close to simplex as possible. When I am finished with a machine, I have a helper in another room talk into the repeater's input while I toggle my receiver between the receive

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples

2009-07-02 Thread Mike Morris WA6ILQ
At 03:22 AM 07/02/09, you wrote: >Hello, >Was Wondering if anyone had a link to a site that had samples of >talk thru Repeater traffic that would be considered good quality audio ? >Maybe i am expecting too much but any of the ones around here that i >have heard seem either Muffled or very Shrill

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples

2009-07-02 Thread Jim WB5OXQ inb Waco, TX
eater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples At 03:22 AM 07/02/09, you wrote: >Hello, >Was Wondering if anyone had a link to a site that had samples of >talk thru Repeater traffic that would be considered good quality audio ? >Maybe i am expecting too much but any of the ones a

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio samples

2009-07-04 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jul 2, 2009, at 9:14 AM, Scott Zimmerman wrote: > While I don't have any recordings for you, I can assure you that ALL > machines I build have audio responses that sound as close to simplex > as > possible. When I am finished with a machine, I have a helper in > another > room talk into th

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio]

2004-04-09 Thread JOHN MACKEY
If I remember right, MOST low band micors are PM. However, you could ge the later ones with DPL and those models had a different exciter that was true FM with a different channel element than the PM models. mch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can't be. I say that because I've worked on Low Band Mic

Re: [Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio]

2004-04-09 Thread mch
Maybe I'll have to convince the sales guys to give that customer a deal to upgrade their equipment. ;-) Joe M. JOHN MACKEY wrote: > > If I remember right, MOST low band micors are PM. However, you could > ge the later ones with DPL and those models had a different exciter > that was true FM wit

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing

2004-09-18 Thread Bryan . Dorbert
I'd be vary suspicious of the pins and contacts on the exciter. Bryan N3ST -Original Message- From: georgiaskywarn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:06 PM To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing I have pos

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing

2004-09-18 Thread albemarle7
Robert, Saw your posting on Repeater-Builder about the loss of audio in the RC100. Had a similar problem in a Micor with a RC1000. Lost half the audio, sometimes it would come back by itself. I reseated the RC1000 IC audio op amp in its socket.The problem seems to have gone away. In anot

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing

2004-09-18 Thread Doug Bade
I am dealing with a similar problem with a Mastr II and a NHRC controller. The audio sometimes fades out dropping to a very low level, and changes while you are listening to it on a repeater user, although it comes back all by itself. It seems to be an analog problem as opposed to just cutting

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing

2004-09-18 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Try giving the deviation control a spritz of cleaner and then run it back and forth several times. Chuck WB2EDV - Original Message - From: "Doug Bade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio n

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater audio not passing

2004-09-18 Thread Kevin King
Replace the deviation control pot on the exciter. I have replaced many on those vintage radios when in mobile service. You could hit it with tuner cleaner also. :) Kevin -Original Message- From: georgiaskywarn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 12:06 PM To: Rep

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio not passing

2004-11-14 Thread Kevin Custer
Chuck Kelsey wrote: >Several years back, I got involved with a couple of repeaters using the MCC >controllers. They just did strange, unexplainable things. The owners of the >repeaters eventually grew tired of the problems and replaced the controllers >with either S-Com or Link controllers. Th

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio not passing

2004-11-14 Thread Chuck Kelsey
Several years back, I got involved with a couple of repeaters using the MCC controllers. They just did strange, unexplainable things. The owners of the repeaters eventually grew tired of the problems and replaced the controllers with either S-Com or Link controllers. These repeaters now run wit

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-16 Thread Bob M.
The people in charge of the repeater 25 kHz away (and on the opposite split) DID contact the guy in charge of the over-deviating repeater. He turned down some of the audio sources, again with no test equipment, but the lack of pre-emphasis/limiting/low-pass-filtering in the transmitter still exi

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Bob M. wrote: > The people in charge of the repeater 25 kHz away (and on the opposite > split) DID contact the guy in charge of the over-deviating repeater. > He turned down some of the audio sources, again with no test > equipment, but the lack of pre-emphasis/limiting/low-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-16 Thread Bob M.
So no one volunteers like that any more. They get sucked in and then there's no way out. Bob M. == --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kris Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: Kris Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #7

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-16 Thread Paul Plack
Sorta like working in a CB shop? ;^) - Original Message - From: Bob M. To: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741) ...it became too much of a bother because he

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-16 Thread Kris Kirby
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Bob M. wrote: > We tried all of those suggestions. He turns a few things down, for a > while, then when one or two people (with worse hearing or equipment > than he) complains, he just turns it back up again, figuring since > nobody complained any more, he must have turned i

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-16 Thread JOHN MACKEY
for not telling him their was a problem. I suggested he find out why thier tech person and thier trustee wouldn't respond. > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Kris Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > From: Kris Kirby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Subject: Re: [Repeater-

Re: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-19 Thread Nate Duehr
Bob M. wrote: > He was into the hard rock stuff in the 80s and his hearing has been poor > since then. Huh? What'd you say?! In my old age, I'll come by my hearing loss honestly... Even with protection, Lycoming and Continental enginees and slipstream noise inside a "spam can" from Cessna, P

RE: [Repeater-Builder] Repeater Audio War Stories (Story #741)

2008-09-20 Thread n9wys
Nate - I still remember the album sleeve for the Rolling Stones' "Let It Bleed" album... Lower right corner: "THIS RECORD SHOULD BE PLAYED LOUD" Mark - N9WYS -Original Message- From: Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Bob M. wrote: > He was into the hard rock st