Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-28 Thread Lorne Tyndale
s helps all > > Gerard > > -Original Message- > From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org > [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Cowboy > Sent: 27 June 2016 22:31 > To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org > Subject: Re: [RDD]

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-28 Thread Gerard
Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Cowboy Sent: 27 June 2016 22:31 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions... On Monday 27 June 2016 04:26:12 pm Gerard wrote

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-28 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jun 27, 2016, at 22:21, drew Roberts wrote: > Given that this is the case and since it does not seem like it is a problem > that will go away, is there a safe way to have rivendell make this check and > run the rdadmin bits automatically on such an upgrade? Schema

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-28 Thread Michael Barnes
Sounds like you're needlessly complicating things to accommodate people who aren't able to follow well established instructions. On Jun 28, 2016 7:33 AM, "drew Roberts" wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Cowboy wrote: > >> On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:21:31

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-28 Thread drew Roberts
On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 6:41 AM, Cowboy wrote: > On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:21:31 -0400 > drew Roberts wrote: > > > is there a safe way to have rivendell make this check > > and run the rdadmin bits automatically on such an upgrade? > > > > How can such automation

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-28 Thread Cowboy
On Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:21:31 -0400 drew Roberts wrote: > is there a safe way to have rivendell make this check > and run the rdadmin bits automatically on such an upgrade? > > How can such automation of the database upgrade blow things up > horribly and thus make this a

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-27 Thread drew Roberts
Cowboy, On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 5:31 PM, Cowboy wrote: > On Monday 27 June 2016 04:26:12 pm Gerard wrote: > > "yum update Rivendell" said yes when needed on the update > > Then did nothing at all apart from shut centos 6.6 down switched pc off > then on again then tried to open

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-27 Thread Cowboy
On Monday 27 June 2016 04:26:12 pm Gerard wrote: > "yum update Rivendell"  said yes when needed on the update > Then did nothing at all apart from shut  centos 6.6 down switched pc off then > on again then tried to open rdairplay ... daemons failed > this says to me that there is a fundamental

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-27 Thread Gerard
ove stated ! -Original Message- From: rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org [mailto:rivendell-dev-boun...@lists.rivendellaudio.org] On Behalf Of Cowboy Sent: 23 June 2016 17:40 To: rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions... On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:20:27

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-24 Thread Tom Van Gorkom
My observation is that gam_server only shows up on the clients. We're using NFS to mount the file shares. I wonder if it's connected with that. My problem with the appliance install was using a 6 yr old box and the MB sound instead of a sound card. Riv didn't like the sound config. After

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-24 Thread Seth Stevenson
Ok Fred, it turned out to be a the sound card issue that tom reported. I added rate 48000 to around.conf and it worked. It was saying something about 96000 not being found. No idea why that was a problem . On Jun 24, 2016 9:30 AM, "Fred Gleason" wrote: > On Jun 23,

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-24 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jun 23, 2016, at 21:21, rcflye...@gmail.com wrote: > I tried a fresh install tonight. The appliance version is of rivendell is > 2.5.5 and centos 6.6. The first thing I did was yum update then rdadmin. It > worked, then I rebooted and daemons won't start. The upgrade was to centos > 6.8 and

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread rcflyer30
I tried a fresh install tonight. The appliance version is of rivendell is 2.5.5 and centos 6.6. The first thing I did was yum update then rdadmin. It worked, then I rebooted and daemons won't start. The upgrade was to centos 6.8 and rivendell 2.14.1. I tried the sound card amendment and that

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Wayne Merricks
I usually have Ubuntu 14.04 Server which is probably not much different to Debian 8. I don't use 16.04 for anything critical in house but someone on the list wanted to use Rivendell on it and I didn't think it would be too difficult to sort out (it isn't but the MySQL date/time changes were

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Tom Van Gorkom
OK, it's a hardware (sound card) issue. I looked at /var/log/messages and found a sample rate mis-match so added "rate 48000" to the end of the /etc/asound.conf file. You can find the discussion and solution in a thread early in Feb 2016. Now I must have permission issues because the Library

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Seth Stevenson
This was my issue. I wonder if you do the update and then start rdadmin if it would work. I'll do a reinstall tonight and find out. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Tom Van Gorkom wrote: > I spoke too soon. I forgot to reboot after all the updates. Now Rivendell >

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Tom Van Gorkom
I spoke too soon. I forgot to reboot after all the updates. Now Rivendell daemons fail to start. Mysql works fine. Can stop rivendell service but when start it, if fails. Where should I look? Some update broke it. Tom Van Gorkom Radio Esperanza Engineering, KRIO AM/FM, KOIR FM Office:

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Tom Van Gorkom
Back on the appliance install... I just installed from the appliance DVD 2.6.6-x86_64iso. As soon as it installed and rebooted, I ran RDAdmin before updating anything and it ran fine. I then ran updates for everything from the terminal and it still works fine. Perhaps the key now is to be sure to

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Cowboy
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 14:20:37 -0400 (EDT) Rob Landry <41001...@interpring.com> wrote: > Why do folks prefer Ubuntu to Debian? Um Because Ubuntu is more like M$ Windows than Debian is ? I dunno, but it certainly appears Ubuntu is a whole lot more "because we can" than I'd ever think about

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Rob Landry
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016, Fred Gleason wrote: We do have a current known issue with MySQL 5.7.x, for which Wayne Merricks has submitted fixes and which will appear in the next regular release.  AFAICT, Ubuntu 16.04 is the only major distro that is currently shipping that version.  It’s also been

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Cowboy
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 09:20:27 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: > Everything does work ‘out of the box’, with the versions that were > current at the time the DVD image was authored. For later versions, > run the updater. For what it's worth My practice, since my

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jun 22, 2016, at 13:43, Seth Stevenson wrote: > I guess I am looking for an update of the whole appliance dvd with > everything working together out of the box. Everything does work ‘out of the box’, with the versions that were current at the time the DVD image was

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Frank White
I hesistate to say anything since I am very far from being a Rivrndell expert. I have had the same issue before. I found that mysql was not running correctly. One time I had changed the ip address and there was a mysql file I had to delete. Second time, the Rivendell database was corrupt and I

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-23 Thread Gerard
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:45:46 +0100 "Gerard" wrote: > I too have the same problems with daemons not starting after upgrade I > was determined that I would get my head round lunix and Rivendell this > time after several attempts and giving up Depending on the OS

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Tom Van Gorkom
I also just installed stand alone Rivendell from the appliance disk today that has always worked for me but this time Rivendell daemons would not start. I always run updates after initially installing - all 500+ of them this time. It was on Dell i3 Inspiron 660. I haven't taken the time to

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Cowboy
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:27:45 -0400 Fred Gleason wrote: > The first thing that should be done after installing *any* new OS is > to run the updater I did that on windows once. NEVER again ! ;) -- Cowboy http://cowboy.cwf1.com Let He who taketh the Plunge Remember

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Alan Smith
+1. I guess it wasn't such a silly question afterall... I know releasing "up to date" appliance disks is an effort in futility, akin to hitting a moving target while blindfolded, BUT... On the next appliance refresh could you include a more recent (the most recent at the time?) version of

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Seth Stevenson
Ok. But that only upgrades Rivendell and not mysql. That is where I ran into trouble. The new version of rivendell doesn't work with mysql as I understand it, and therefore doesn't work, therefore upgrading rivendell doesn't really help at all. I guess I am looking for an update of the whole

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jun 22, 2016, at 13:31, Seth Stevenson wrote: > Those commands didn't work for me. I think is has to do with mysql/maria and > the newest version of Rivendell. Fred could you give us some help on the > proper way to do an upgrade off the Appliance so that Rivendell and

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Seth Stevenson
Those commands didn't work for me. I think is has to do with mysql/maria and the newest version of Rivendell. Fred could you give us some help on the proper way to do an upgrade off the Appliance so that Rivendell and the database work smoothly? On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Cowboy

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Cowboy
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 17:45:46 +0100 "Gerard" wrote: > I too have the same problems with daemons not starting after upgrade > I was determined that I would get my head round lunix and Rivendell > this time after several attempts and giving up In spite of rumors to

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Gerard
the Rivendell Radio Automation System <rivendell-dev@lists.rivendellaudio.org> Subject: Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions... I had terrible trouble when upgrading rivendell after a fresh install of the appliance which I believe was Rivendell 2.5.5 on Centos 6. Rivendell upgraded to 2.14.1 jus

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Seth Stevenson
I had terrible trouble when upgrading rivendell after a fresh install of the appliance which I believe was Rivendell 2.5.5 on Centos 6. Rivendell upgraded to 2.14.1 just fine, but then the daemons wouldn't start. After much hassle I removed the mysql that came with the appliance, and installed

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Alessio Elmi
I think you can can interpret that number this way: 2.6.6.1 -> 2 -> Rivendell 2.x 6.6 -> based on CentOS 6.6 1 -> subrelease, with setup/config fixes. However, you should have Paravel repository enabled with the Appliance. A simple "yum upgrade" will bring Rivendell to the latest released

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Fred Gleason
On Jun 21, 2016, at 16:07, Alan Smith wrote: > There have been several "appliance" versions now, and I always take a peek in > a VM, but I notice the "shipping" version of Rivendell on them is always > 2.5.5...and the only thing that is actually refreshed on the newer

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Cowboy
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 07:05:01 -0500 Alan Smith wrote: > Then there was another appliance that was RD 2.5.5 on CentOS 6.5 > and the current one which is RD 2.5.5 on CentOS 6.6 You see, why I asked... The current release is 2.14.1 but I'll admit I haven't gotten an

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-22 Thread Alan Smith
Always the Paravel Site. I check it periodically for newer appliance versions. I realize that is was kind of a pointless question to ask, but there was a reason... My VERY FIRST appliance (appliance v 1.0) Shipped with RD 2.5.5 on CentOS 5.9. I had to install a proprietary video driver to

Re: [RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-21 Thread Cowboy
On Tuesday 21 June 2016 04:07:48 pm Alan Smith wrote: > but I notice the "shipping" version of Rivendell on them > is always 2.5.5...and the only thing that is actually refreshed on the > newer appliance disks is the underlying OS... That would be quite wrong ! What links are you using ? --

[RDD] Appliance Versions...

2016-06-21 Thread Alan Smith
Since the appliance has been mentioned, something I have wondered... There have been several "appliance" versions now, and I always take a peek in a VM, but I notice the "shipping" version of Rivendell on them is always 2.5.5...and the only thing that is actually refreshed on the newer