Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

Hi, yes there might be some problems with getting in touch to the right ppl on IRC and even worse on the forums. It's a problem we can hardly change because everyone lives somewhere else and has other circumstances in his life. So a 24:7 presence might become difficult. For such I recommend a

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

I spend not less than 32 hours on ReactOS every week for the last 7 years. And that's why every second IT-guy in Russia and exUSSR knows what is ReactOS and it's detailed state. Every third IT-guy knows by heart  my nickname, real name and even appearence. 26.03.2017, 00:01, "Giannis Adamopoulos"

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

This is getting really funny. Since you act as if you work you ass off and we the devs are slacking, how much time do YOU spend each week with productive work? ReactOS Development List wrote on Sat, March 25th, 2017, 9:17 PM: > My original claim was that discussion about

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

I strongly disagree with everything you said in that email. I'll reply inline On 25 March 2017 at 21:17, Alexander Rechitskiy wrote: > My original claim was that discussion about opening #reactos-dev is useless > because: > 1. Devs intentionally not pay attention to

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

Hello, To be clear, ReactOS doesn't have enough donations to pay devs living in countries where life is expensive (and can't afford to work as full- time dev for the project), along with maintaining infrastructure (paying servers to run JIRA, the forums, the buildbots and slavebots for the

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

My original claim was that discussion about opening #reactos-dev is uselessbecause:1. Devs intentionally not pay attention to #reactos2. They even intentionally not pay attention to forum and JIRA So if we open #reactos-dev the dev will start ignore #reactos-dev too. So the real problem is the

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

You HAVE to understand that everyone is contributing what they think they can afford to contribute. No matter how much it may be "best" if they used their time on something else, they ARE contributors, not slaves, so they are free to work on what they want. The sooner you accept that, the better.

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

Giannis Project also accepts bug-reports, this important part of workflow, and this is the place where I am contributor #2https://jira.reactos.org/secure/ConfigureReport.jspa?projectOrFilterId=project-10005=reporter=10005=com.atlassian.jira.jira-core-reports-plugin%3Apie-report=Next 25.03.2017,

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

Right, show me the code. AKA we accept patches Alexander. Regarding #reactos-dev, I'm afraid that if we open it to everyone we will see the endless noise from jira to flood #reactos-dev. ReactOS Development List wrote on Sat, March 25th, 2017, 2:01 PM: > “Talk is cheap.

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

In that case I can stop paying attention to jira, since the perception is that we do not care anyway. This will free up a reasonable amount of time that I can spend on parts of reactos that only i care about. On 25 March 2017 at 14:01, Alexander Rechitskiy wrote: > > > “Talk

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

 “Talk is cheap. Show me the code.” ― Linus Torvalds  Speed of development of ReactOS is really slow. Developers do not care even about reports in JIRA. This discussion is sensles and useless because regardless of the it's result nothing will be better in ReactOS.25.03.2017, 15:52, "Robert

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

There should simply be more devs in #reactos. Some are, but many are not. Everyone of us is able to give voice to newbies and direct dev related conversations to the dev channel. When we open this chan to the public we could instead remove it and do everything via #reactos. Am 25.03.2017 13:33

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

I don't see any usefulness in a #reactos-gsoc. It would isolate the gsoc people, rather than help them integrate into the team. Remember Google isn't just giving projects some free labor, the goal is to introduce new devs into the communities with the idea of them remaining in those communities.

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

Too many chans will clutter it, in the end the devs will have to join 10 chans. The chans aren't that high-traffic ones. I think we should yust try to do a -m and see what happens. > Yes, that's a better idea. #reactos-gsoc > > On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Ionescu

Re: [ros-dev] Opening up #reactos-dev to the public

Yes, that's a better idea. #reactos-gsoc On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 6:53 PM, Alex Ionescu wrote: > I don't agree. Maintain the auto-voice lists and get someone in charge of > operations, like I used to be for many years on IRC. > > Instead, why not create a #reactos-gsoc or