[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi Michael, On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi folks, it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check the release tour at http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1 and edit what is there already in case it can be improved or add

[sage-devel] google 3d browser api

2009-04-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
Hi, I just discovered: http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ watch the video there. I think this is awesome -- I hope sooner or later all major browsers implement something like this, then it could be used for all kinds of 3d interaction in the notebook. Ondrej

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Martin Albrecht
On Thursday 23 April 2009, mabshoff wrote: Hello, while there should be a quick 3.4.2 to mop up patches from trac before the big 4.0 jump today we had a planning session during the UW status meeting about the goals for Sage 4.0. The result is at http://wiki.sagemath.org/plan/sage-4.0

[sage-devel] Re: trac ticket width and hgrc tips?

2009-04-23 Thread John Cremona
2009/4/22 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com: On Apr 22, 12:52 pm, Nick Alexander ncalexan...@gmail.com wrote: To override this in Firefox on Linux, I put #content.ticket { width: 100% !important; } Hmm, that seems to be a worthwhile change to me since these days most people should

[sage-devel] Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Kwankyu
Hi, It seems that multivariate polynomial quotient rings are not in Sage yet. Is someone working to fill this gap? or should I rely on Singular or Magma interface? or should I attempt to implement my own toyish one? Give me an advice. Thank you. Kwankyu

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 1:22 am, Martin Albrecht m...@informatik.uni-bremen.de wrote: On Thursday 23 April 2009, mabshoff wrote: Hello, Hi Martin, while there should be a quick 3.4.2 to mop up patches from trac before the big 4.0 jump today we had a planning session during the UW status meeting

[sage-devel] Re: google 3d browser api

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 1:04 am, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote: Hi, Hi, I just discovered: http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ watch the video there. I think this is awesome -- I hope sooner or later all major browsers implement something like this, then it could be used for all kinds of 3d

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:29 AM, Kwankyu wrote: Hi, It seems that multivariate polynomial quotient rings are not in Sage yet. Is someone working to fill this gap? or should I rely on Singular or Magma interface? or should I attempt to implement my own toyish one? Give me an advice. Thank you.

[sage-devel] Re: google 3d browser api

2009-04-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Ondrej Certik wrote: Hi, I just discovered: http://code.google.com/apis/o3d/ watch the video there. I think this is awesome -- I hope sooner or later all major browsers implement something like this, then it could be used for all kinds of 3d interaction in

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Kwankyu
Hi Robert, Thank you. I just found examples in the reference using multivariate quotient rings. May I ask a similar question about hermite normal form of matrices over univariate polynomial ring? ^^ Kwankyu --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-23 Thread John Cremona
2009/4/22 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com: On Apr 22, 12:54 pm, David M. Monarres dmmonar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, On an upgrade from 3.4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6 (intel) I get the following doctest errors: Thanks for the build report. The following tests failed: sage -t

[sage-devel] Re: Multivariate polynomial quotient ring

2009-04-23 Thread Robert Bradshaw
On Apr 23, 2009, at 1:51 AM, Kwankyu wrote: Hi Robert, Thank you. I just found examples in the reference using multivariate quotient rings. May I ask a similar question about hermite normal form of matrices over univariate polynomial ring? ^^ Don't think it's implemented yet, but you

[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Minh Nguyen
Hi folks, On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi folks, it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check the release tour at http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1 and edit what is there already in case it can be improved or add

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-23 Thread John Cremona
2009/4/23 John Cremona john.crem...@gmail.com: 2009/4/22 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com: On Apr 22, 12:54 pm, David M. Monarres dmmonar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi David, On an upgrade from 3.4 on Mac OS X 10.5.6 (intel) I get the following doctest errors: Thanks for the build report.

[sage-devel] Re: feature request

2009-04-23 Thread Flavio Coelho
Thanks Michael, I was really referring to multiprocessing, since their APIs are not the same and pyprocessing isn't supported anymore. Multiprocessing is maintained to be fully compatible with the 2.6 module to help with forward compatibility. So I guess the answer to my question is that

[sage-devel] Fwd: google 3d js api (open source)

2009-04-23 Thread Jurgis Pralgauskis
Hello, this seems to be more than jmol... O3D is an open-source web API for creating rich, interactive 3D applications in the browser. This API is shared at an early stage as part of a conversation with the broader developer community about establishing an open web standard for 3D graphics.

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Georg S. Weber
Hi Michael, probably you did. But just to be sure: did you really do tests with the singular spkg I put a while ago at http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/weberg/spkg/ ? There are quite some changes in it (ask me if you have specific questions), one or the other of which might possibly

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Dr. David Kirkby
mabshoff wrote: Hello, while there should be a quick 3.4.2 to mop up patches from trac before the big 4.0 jump today we had a planning session during the UW status meeting about the goals for Sage 4.0. The result is at http://wiki.sagemath.org/plan/sage-4.0 It still needs a little

[sage-devel] Re: Final 3.4.1 source released

2009-04-23 Thread Bill Hart
The latest RC of MPIR 1.1.1 should fix this issue. Bill. On 23 Apr, 01:43, Bill Hart goodwillh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Marshall. I think I have a fix for this. But I've started a thread on the MPIR development list for this:

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
I'd like to add as a goal that Sage 4.0 works with versions of its dependencies available from the relevant upstreams. For context, I would very much like to be able to package Sage 4.0 for Debian once it comes out, since I find the current state of having Sage 3.0.5 from last July to be

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread David Roe
+1 from me as a good goal for 4.0. But I don't have a whole lot of experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be working on improving p-adics, so I probably won't be helping much. David 2009/4/23 Tim Abbott tabb...@mit.edu I'd like to add as a goal that Sage 4.0 works with versions of its

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Ondrej Certik wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: We managed to get one gsoc project that does the assumptions right, so it may happen anyways over the summer, in fact I very much hope so. How does assumptions affect this? If that's so

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, David Roe r...@math.harvard.edu wrote: +1 from me as a good goal for 4.0.  But I don't have a whole lot of experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be working on improving p-adics, so I probably won't be helping much. David 2009/4/23 Tim Abbott

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Ondrej Certik wrote: On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Maurizio maurizio.gran...@gmail.com wrote: We managed to get one gsoc project that does the assumptions right, so it may happen anyways over the summer, in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Gonzalo Tornaria
2009/4/23 Tim Abbott tabb...@mit.edu: I'd like to add as a goal that Sage 4.0 works with versions of its dependencies available from the relevant upstreams. For context, I would very much like to be able to package Sage 4.0 for Debian once it comes out, since I find the current state of

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Lahey
On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:07 PM, William Stein wrote: Could you explain how assumptions are so important? Could you particularly address how they can (1) be so critically important, and yet (2) ginac doesn't have them. Incidentaly, to me they are particularly important in symbolic

[sage-devel] Re: 3.4.1 release tour updates

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Minh Nguyen wrote: Hi folks, On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 5:09 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi folks, it would be good if you contributed a feature to Sage 3.4.1 to check the release tour at http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-3.4.1 and edit what is there already in case it can

[sage-devel] Re: feature request

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 4:36 am, Flavio Coelho fccoe...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Michael, Hi Flávio, I was really referring to multiprocessing, since their APIs are not the same and  pyprocessing isn't supported anymore. Multiprocessing is maintained to be fully compatible with the 2.6 module to help

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 5:51 am, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Michael, Hi Georg, probably you did. But just to be sure: did you really do tests with the singular spkg I put a while ago at    http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/weberg/spkg/ ? I will take it for a spin. I am

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Tim Abbott wrote: The first is upgrading CVS/SVN versions of dependencies to actual releases. I notice the Sage currently has an SVN version of jqueryui, an SVN version of matplotlib, and an SVN version of ghmm (to be fair, ghmm hasn't released is ages, so I don't blame Sage for that

[sage-devel] Re: Indefinite Integration [WAS: programming: define a new function]

2009-04-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:17 PM, Tim Lahey tim.la...@gmail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 2009, at 4:07 PM, William Stein wrote: Could you explain how assumptions are so important?  Could you We already discussed this many times on this list, just search the archives. Without good assumptions, you

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 6:23 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: mabshoff wrote: Hello, SNIP Hi Michael, Hi David, As Sage on Solaris needs a custom tool chain, could a script be provided that builds that tool chain from a full (but fresh) installation of the latest version of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 6:23 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote: mabshoff wrote: Hello, SNIP Hi Michael, Hi David, As Sage on Solaris needs a custom tool chain, could a script be provided that builds that

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 12:57 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, David Roe r...@math.harvard.edu wrote: Hi, +1 from me as a good goal for 4.0.  But I don't have a whole lot of experience with dealing with spkgs, and I'll be working on improving p-adics, so I

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 1:52 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:50 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP I think for the near term we should provide a binary tarball of your toolchain. I just tried dumping it on a completely different sparc box, and it works

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: On Apr 23, 12:57 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:32 PM, David Roe r...@math.harvard.edu wrote: Hi, +1 from me as a good goal for 4.0.  But I don't have a whole lot of

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 2:04 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 1:58 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote: SNIP I doubt this will ever happen. Soon for example we plan to switch to the svn version of pari which absolutely changes lots of things in Sage in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 5:51 am, Georg S. Weber georgswe...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Michael, Hi Georg, probably you did. But just to be sure: did you really do tests with the singular spkg I put a while ago at    http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/weberg/spkg/ ? Your spkg + sage -b to rebuild the

[sage-devel] documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread chris wuthrich
i have some questions and suggestion on the RestructuredText. I am a ReST-newbie and so maybe these things have been discussed before. * In one of my files i have a line power_series = series. This produces the full docstring of series to appear twice in the documentation, once under series

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
chris wuthrich wrote: i have some questions and suggestion on the RestructuredText. I am a ReST-newbie and so maybe these things have been discussed before. * In one of my files i have a line power_series = series. This produces the full docstring of series to appear twice in the

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread William Stein
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 7:03 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: chris wuthrich wrote:  i have some questions and suggestion on the RestructuredText. I am a ReST-newbie and so maybe these things have been discussed before.  * In one of my files i have a line power_series =

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
William Stein wrote: On a different note, can we change the background color of examples? In my opinion, that green is just a bit too strong. It's not green, it is grey, and I also really don't like it either. It's definitely a light green for me in firefox on ubuntu (it's color

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Carl Witty
On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Anyone know where the CSS file is?  The color is set in a default.css file, but the only default.css files I see are in _static directories, which sounds like they are automatically generated somehow. It comes

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread Jason Grout
Carl Witty wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Anyone know where the CSS file is? The color is set in a default.css file, but the only default.css files I see are in _static directories, which sounds like they are automatically generated

[sage-devel] Re: documentation issues

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 9:34 pm, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Carl Witty wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 9:19 PM, Jason Grout jason-s...@creativetrax.com wrote: Anyone know where the CSS file is?  The color is set in a default.css file, but the only default.css files I see are in

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, Gonzalo Tornaria wrote: would it make sense to have a small sage-source debian package which depends on the (few) build tools required to build debian and which upon installation downloads sage, compiles it, and places it in a (debian specific) standard place in the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, William Stein wrote: What do people think about this proposal? -1 from me as a goal for 4.0, since we already have a very daunting challenge to accomplish the current goals for 4.0 in the timeframe we have set, unless of course you are volunteering to do all of the

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread Tim Abbott
On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: Another thing: In 3.4.1 we downgraded GAP to 4.4.10 from 4.4.12 that was upgraded in Sage 3.3 due to a significant number of bugs and issues in GAP 4.4.12. How would you deal with something like that in the packaged version of Sage? The whole point about

[sage-devel] Re: Sage 4.0 release plan

2009-04-23 Thread mabshoff
On Apr 23, 10:34 pm, Tim Abbott tabb...@mit.edu wrote: On Thu, 23 Apr 2009, mabshoff wrote: Hi Tim, Another thing: In 3.4.1 we downgraded GAP to 4.4.10 from 4.4.12 that was upgraded in Sage 3.3 due to a significant number of bugs and issues in GAP 4.4.12. How would you deal with