Hey all,
There's a set of patches needing review. It brings doctest coverage of the
p-adics folder from 28.3% to 100%, restructures the files so that the
directory is less cluttered, deletes a number of files (some due to the
restructuring, some getting rid of lazy p-adics which are currently not
On Apr 30, 11:38 pm, David Roe r...@math.harvard.edu wrote:
Hey all,
There's a set of patches needing review. It brings doctest coverage of the
p-adics folder from 28.3% to 100%, restructures the files so that the
directory is less cluttered, deletes a number of files (some due to the
On Apr 30, 10:19 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:15 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
I think figsize is meant as a scaling factor since otherwise there is
no way you can exceed 2^15 as a limit of the png size :)
I think figsize is
Jaap Spies wrote:
mabshoff wrote:
Hello folks,
Now doing a fresh install on this machine.
On this fresh install first success, followed by the failure:
SAGE build/upgrade complete!
[j...@paix sage-3.4.2.rc0]$ ./sage -t
devel/sage/sage/matrix/matrix_symbolic_dense.pyx
sage -t
On May 1, 12:05 am, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote:
Jaap Spies wrote:
mabshoff wrote:
Hello folks,
Now doing a fresh install on this machine.
Hi Jaap,
On this fresh install first success, followed by the failure:
SAGE build/upgrade complete!
[j...@paix sage-3.4.2.rc0]$ ./sage
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 6:53 AM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 10:19 pm, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:15 PM, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
SNIP
I think figsize is meant as a scaling factor since otherwise there is
no
Three successful builds from scratch of 3.4.2.rc0 with all tests
passing (32-bit ubuntu, 32-bit Suse and 64-bit ubuntu).
John
2009/5/1 mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com:
On May 1, 12:05 am, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote:
Jaap Spies wrote:
mabshoff wrote:
Hello folks,
Now doing a
I very much like the self organizing feature of the graphs on the
applets
on this page
http://people.math.jussieu.fr/~keller/quivermutation/
Don't forget to check Live Quiver.
It's like what GraphViz does but then in real time.
Regards,
Michel
mabshoff wrote:
g++ -O3 -g -fPIC -pipe -I. -I../kernel -I/usr/xpg4/include
-I/export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-3.4.2.alpha0/local/include
-I/export/home/drkirkby/sage/sage-3.4.2.alpha0/local/include
-fno-implicit-templates -DNDEBUG -DOM_NDEBUG -DSunOS_5 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H
-DGENTABLE \
-o
I have a couple of questions about the spkg files. I assume this is
documented somewhere, and I'm sure I've been told before, but I can't
find the posts.
1) In what order are the spgk files built? I assume there is a file
somewhere which has this.
2) I believe its possible to get Sage to
On May 1, 1:26 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
mabshoff wrote:
\SNIP
Hi,
I removed ncurses and Singular did build. BUT, I am a bit puzzled, as
even before doing this, it appeared the Sage build failed at some other
point (forget which, but I'm not sure if it was
On May 1, 1:29 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
I have a couple of questions about the spkg files. I assume this is
documented somewhere, and I'm sure I've been told before, but I can't
find the posts.
1) In what order are the spgk files built? I assume there is a file
Somewhat confused by the way Sage appeared to have failed at two
different points before, I decided to delete all the sage directory
and start again. This time, the Solaris tool chain had the right paths
in before I started.
So the process on my Sun Blade 2000, with Solaris 10 update 6, was
On May 1, 9:40 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On May 1, 1:29 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
I have a couple of questions about the spkg files. I assume this is
documented somewhere, and I'm sure I've been told before, but I can't
find the posts.
1) In
On May 1, 1:53 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
Somewhat confused by the way Sage appeared to have failed at two
different points before, I decided to delete all the sage directory
and start again. This time, the Solaris tool chain had the right paths
in before I started.
On May 1, 12:13 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
On May 1, 12:05 am, Jaap Spies j.sp...@hccnet.nl wrote:
SNIP
SAGE build/upgrade complete!
[j...@paix sage-3.4.2.rc0]$ ./sage -t
devel/sage/sage/matrix/matrix_symbolic_dense.pyx
sage -t
Marshall Hampton wrote:
I too have founds bugs by reading code that I've written - usually,
very
early on in the development process. Note that I'm talking in the
context
of result verification, however. That is, when I publish a paper
that
depends on computations, it is incumbent upon
mabshoff wrote:
Any clisp release I ever tried to build on Sparc is basically broken
with anything later than gcc 3.2.3. There was a thread on clisp-devel
about this and it boils down to tthe following:
* the clisp people know which file miscompiles
* the file is *huge*, ergo the gcc
On May 1, 2:36 am, Dr. David Kirkby david.kir...@onetel.net wrote:
mabshoff wrote:
Any clisp release I ever tried to build on Sparc is basically broken
with anything later than gcc 3.2.3. There was a thread on clisp-devel
about this and it boils down to tthe following:
* the clisp
For the record, I'm also getting this on an older laptop running
32-bit arch linux.
Alex
Ahhh, I jinxed myself. On a 32 bit FC10 box:
sage -t -long devel/sage/sage/matrix/
matrix_symbolic_dense.pyx
Total time for all tests: 11440.3 seconds
[mabsh...@cicero
Clean build on 64-bit Fedora 10 (Opteron) fails one doctest:
sage -t devel/sage/sage/sets/primes.py
**
File /opt/sage/sage-3.4.2.rc0/devel/sage/sage/sets/primes.py, line
80:
sage: Px^2+x
Expected:
True
Got:
False
On May 1, 6:54 am, Kiran Kedlaya ksk...@gmail.com wrote:
Clean build on 64-bit Fedora 10 (Opteron) fails one doctest:
Hi Kiran,
sage -t devel/sage/sage/sets/primes.py
**
File
On May 1, 5:25 am, Alex Ghitza aghi...@gmail.com wrote:
For the record, I'm also getting this on an older laptop running
32-bit arch linux.
Thanks, I have seen this no on Linux for x86, x86-64 as well as
Itanium, so we ought to get a handle on this today. It is now #5957.
Alex
Cheers,
sage: Px^2+x
Expected:
True
Got:
False
Yes, I just added that test to show that Primes() has comparison. I
was a little surprised to see the result, but it passed testing, so...
If someone posts a ticket with a suggested fix that makes Primes()
greater than everything, I
On May 1, 7:38 am, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
sage: Px^2+x
Expected:
True
Got:
False
Yes, I just added that test to show that Primes() has comparison. I
was a little surprised to see the result, but it passed testing, so...
If someone posts a ticket with
mabshoff wrote:
On May 1, 7:38 am, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote:
sage: Px^2+x
Expected:
True
Got:
False
Yes, I just added that test to show that Primes() has comparison. I
was a little surprised to see the result, but it passed testing, so...
If someone posts a
On Apr 30, 8:15 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
I would be quite interested in seeing a defense of this idea, because,
to me, it seems like quite a bad notion.
Replacing Maxima (which is [being treated as..] free/open) with
another [free/open] package, yet to be
The argument (specious, probably) is that if the compiler is open-
source
as well as the library, the operating system code etc, then an
industrious person
could try to verify all this.
It is often said that Testing can only demonstrate the presence of a
bug, not its absence.
BUT
I think it
Hello Rado!
Very nice editor! :-)
I was thinking of maybe being able to export to another format to be
able to get drawings as well. A LaTeX package for drawing graphs that
I like very much is tkz-graph,
http://altermundus.com/pages/graph.html
which is built on top of TikZ.
I was playing
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
Few people have a deep background (e.g. graduate level math) and are
also well educated in computer science. I'm not sure what the reasons
are, but it is true generally of graduate students (in math) at
Berkeley. Few graduate
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:17 AM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
On Apr 30, 8:15 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
I would be quite interested in seeing a defense of this idea, because,
to me, it seems like quite a bad notion.
Replacing Maxima (which is [being treated
Hi Nick,
For information:
zephyr-/opt/sagesage -f sage-mode-0.5.4.spkg
Force installing sage-mode-0.5.4.spkg
...
Attempting to download it.
http://www.sagemath.org//packages/optional/sage-mode-0.5.4.spkg --
sage-mode-0.5.4.spkg
[ ]
Personally, I think it is important to have access to source code. I
do in fact read the source code of Sage (and many other projects)
often. However, many people with whom I speak (user's of Matlab and
Mathematica) don't feel this is important. Their logic goes something
like this...
I have
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Brian Granger ellisonbg@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I think it is important to have access to source code. I
do in fact read the source code of Sage (and many other projects)
often. However, many people with whom I speak (user's of Matlab and
On May 1, 9:38 am, Fidel fidel.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking of maybe being able to export to another format to be
able to get drawings as well. A LaTeX package for drawing graphs that
I like very much is tkz-graph,
Hi Fidel,
Thanks for the information on all of this - those
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Brian Granger ellisonbg@gmail.com wrote:
Personally, I think it is important to have access to source code. I
do in fact read the source code of Sage (and many other projects)
often. However, many people with whom I speak (user's of Matlab and
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Brian Granger ellisonbg@gmail.com
wrote:
Personally, I think it is important to have access to source code. I
do in fact read the source code of Sage (and many other projects)
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 11:22 AM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:57 AM, Ondrej Certik ond...@certik.cz wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Brian Granger ellisonbg@gmail.com
wrote:
Personally, I think it is important to have access to source code. I
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robert Bradshaw
rober...@math.washington.edu wrote:
On May 1, 2009, at 8:15 AM, kcrisman wrote:
In the future of python, things that don't have a sensible order
throw a TypeError when comparing:
All tests passed on my intel macbook running 10.5.
-M. Hampton
On Apr 30, 7:23 am, mabshoff mabsh...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello folks,
here goes 3.4.2.rc0 - a little later than planned, but it seems like
we fixed all the issues (and more) that needed to be fixed. We finally
merged the
There's a lovely little article in the February 2009 issue
of the monthly on using integrals to approximate pi. The
author discovers some nice rational approximations of pi
by systmeatically searching through integrals of the
form
integrate(
(x^m * (1 - x)^n * (a + b*x + c*x^2))/(1 + x^2),
Hello Robert,
1) Do you have any priorities for features you'd like to see sooner
rather than later?
2) What would be *your* preferred syntax for declaring a templated,
operator-overloading class in C++?
I just wanted to mention, how easily C++ classes could be wrapped
using boost::python.
Hi Nicolas,
As far as I know, sage-mode is only available from the wiki right now.
I downloaded the spkg locally from http://wiki.sagemath.org/sage-mode
and now use it every time I upgrade my sage installation, by typing
sage -f ~/Downloads/sage-mode-0.5.4.spkg
(i.e. note that I need to give
The discussion has wandered off topic, but it seems to me that it is
true that
You Usually Do Not to Know about Internals. Otherwise you would not
be able
to use a computer or for that matter, drive a car.
I do not find it insulting at all.
If Wolfram said that he didn't show internal code
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:51:57AM -0700, Rob Beezer wrote:
On May 1, 9:38 am, Fidel fidel.barr...@gmail.com wrote:
I was thinking of maybe being able to export to another format to be
able to get drawings as well. A LaTeX package for drawing graphs that
I like very much is tkz-graph,
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 04:24:31PM -0700, mabshoff wrote:
But please: *keep me updated about any such change as soon as
possible* so as to limit conflicts. Every late conflict resolution
just delays even further the final merge.
Seehttp://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/5887
On May 1, 2009, at 2:29 PM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:31:40PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robert Bradshaw
rober...@math.washington.edu wrote:
On May 1, 2009, at 8:15 AM, kcrisman wrote:
In the future of python, things that don't
On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 04:12:00PM -0700, mabshoff wrote:
On Apr 25, 8:39 am, Nicolas M. Thiery nicolas.thi...@u-psud.fr
Before posting the patch to trac, I'll split it up into:
- patch with all trivial import updates (the most invasive one)
- main patch with the category framework
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 12:31:40PM -0700, William Stein wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Robert Bradshaw
rober...@math.washington.edu wrote:
On May 1, 2009, at 8:15 AM, kcrisman wrote:
In the future of python, things that don't have a sensible order
throw a TypeError when
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 3:11 PM, rjf fate...@gmail.com wrote:
If Wolfram said that he didn't show internal code because you were too
stupid to do anything with it, that might be insulting.
Even if it were true for the generic you, it would be insulting for
some people.
If he said that he
Hello all,
I've noticed that the function find_minimum_on_interval makes no attempt to
find the minimum on the interval as the documentation implies, but rather
a local minimum. I imagine this may be a source of confusion for other
new users as well. Rather than treating this as a bug, may I
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Thomas Savitsky tjsavit...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I've noticed that the function find_minimum_on_interval makes no attempt to
find the minimum on the interval as the documentation implies, but rather
a local minimum. I imagine this may be a source of
On May 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Thomas Savitsky wrote:
I looked into global optimizers, and scipy's anneal is not the
answer. It gives poor results quite often. A better choice would
be ASA, located at http://alumnus.caltech.edu/~ingber/#ASA
Unfortunately, there are functions which give
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 5:09 PM, Tim Lahey tim.la...@gmail.com wrote:
On May 1, 2009, at 7:58 PM, Thomas Savitsky wrote:
I looked into global optimizers, and scipy's anneal is not the
answer. It gives poor results quite often. A better choice would
be ASA, located at
On May 1, 10:07 am, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
The short summary of the dozens of pages I've shown you before is:
* support for building lisp is poor
This is an issue only because you insist that programs used in sage
must be of the form that
everyone needs to be able to
I thought some people on sage-devel might like a
very quick view of some highlights of the conference
http://www4.ncsu.edu/~kaltofen/NSF_WS_ECCAD09_Itinerary.html
I think further details will appear on the webpage later.
This is very incomplete - just a few thought I was able to
jot down
Dear Sage developers,
I tried to build Sage-3.4 on my intel macbook (Mac OS X 10.4.11). I
have Xcode 2.5 installed and gcc-4.0.1. I downloaded the sage-3.4.tar,
untarred it and ran make. I have macports installed so changed the PATH
to remove anything from /opt. I also renamed /opt to
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 8:05 PM, William Stein wst...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Thomas Savitsky tjsavit...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all,
I've noticed that the function find_minimum_on_interval makes no attempt to
find the minimum on the interval as the documentation
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