Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-06-19 Thread Rejean Lepage
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender Hi Pat and all. I am very happy to report that fallowing those instructions, I was able to Successfully complete the Upgrade from SL7x to AL8x Several Key-Server was updated, while a new image was just created and deployed for lab Workstati

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 7:10 PM Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > > On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 4:08 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Red HGat and RHEL, > > and even had some tools to switch Scientifi

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-28 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender On Thu, May 16, 2024 at 4:08 AM Nico Kadel-Garcia mailto:nka...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Red HGat and RHEL, > and even had some tools to switch Scientific Linux releases to the > matching CentOS re

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-17 Thread Patrick Riehecky
In theory updated packages are available and testing instructions are up at : https://bugs.almalinux.org/view.php?id=433 Pat On Thu, 2024-05-16 at 07:06 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > [EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender > > I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Re

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-16 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender I did this sort of stunt years ago with previous Red HGat and RHEL, and even had some tools to switch Scientific Linux releases to the matching CentOS releases and back. I do *not* recommend it! Resolving the library differences for core librari

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-15 Thread Ichihara Takashi
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender Hello, I have tested the following procedure to upgrade SL7.9 to AlmaLinux 8.9. It worked successfully. -- https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__bugs.almalinux.org_view.php-3Fid-3D433&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49Qq

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-13 Thread Rejean Lepage
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender thank You, Burt. That's a bummer… I do have a few servers with services configured I that I would have prefer to update. I did it with centOS and work ok. Likewise, I also had to remove extra el7 left over rpm package... but I was mentioned

Re: leapp-upgrade from SL79 to AL89 ?

2024-05-13 Thread Burt Holzman
Hi Rejean, I opened a bug with alma more than 6 months ago on this with no progress; personally, I'll just back up my work and do a fresh reinstall, since leapp seems to be risky. https://bugs.almalinux.org/view.php?id=433 - B On 5/13/24 11:32, Rejean Lepage wrote: > [EXTERNAL] – This messag

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] rsync issues with mirroring

2024-04-01 Thread Patrick Riehecky
I believe we are planning to archive the content. Pat On Fri, 2024-03-29 at 23:00 -0400, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > [EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender > > I can see it myself from home. I do note that RHEL 7 is being > obsoleted within a couple of months. Will the Scientific Li

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] rsync issues with mirroring

2024-04-01 Thread Seth Lohr
8:00 PM To: Patrick Riehecky Cc: Seth Lohr ; scientific-linux-users Subject: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] rsync issues with mirroring I can see it myself from home. I do note that RHEL 7 is being obsoleted within a couple of months. Will the Scientific Linux 7 at this site be archived, or kept

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] rsync issues with mirroring

2024-03-29 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
[EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender I can see it myself from home. I do note that RHEL 7 is being obsoleted within a couple of months. Will the Scientific Linux 7 at this site be archived, or kept alive indefinitely? On Fri, Mar 29, 2024 at 4:41 PM Patrick Riehecky wrote: > > I'

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] rsync issues with mirroring

2024-03-29 Thread Patrick Riehecky
I'll take a look! Pat On Fri, 2024-03-29 at 20:34 +, Seth Lohr wrote: > > [EXTERNAL] – This message is from an external sender > > > Since 2024-03-24 (5 days ago) there's been an uptick in issues when > trying to rsync off this URI: > > > rsync://rsync.scientificlinux.org/scientific/ >

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
For your system, I would not agonize over choice of ext4 or XFS, in practice you will see little difference. Some practical advice for your system: - bump the OS + home dirs from 1TB to 2TB (incremental cost of two 1TB SSD vs two 2TB SSD is small) - run this system on UPS power. your 200 TB data

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-06 Thread Patrick Riehecky
On Wed, 2023-12-06 at 09:18 -0500, Edward Zuniga wrote: Thanks everyone for the feedback! I've learned so much from reading the discussions. For our application, we will have a LAN with a single server (1TB RAID1 array for OS, 200TB RAID5 array for data) and up to 16 workstations (1TB RAID1 arra

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-06 Thread Miles ONeal
___ From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov on behalf of Edward Zuniga Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 08:18 To: Edward Zuniga ; SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov Cc: Konstantin Olchanski Subject: Re: XFS vs Ext4 Thanks everyone for the feedback! I've learne

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-06 Thread Edward Zuniga
Cc'ing supervisor to loop him in as well. On Wed, Dec 6, 2023, 9:18 AM Edward Zuniga wrote: > Thanks everyone for the feedback! I've learned so much from reading the > discussions. > > For our application, we will have a LAN with a single server (1TB RAID1 > array for OS, 200TB RAID5 array for d

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-06 Thread Edward Zuniga
Thanks everyone for the feedback! I've learned so much from reading the discussions. For our application, we will have a LAN with a single server (1TB RAID1 array for OS, 200TB RAID5 array for data) and up to 16 workstations (1TB RAID1 array for OS). Our IT department is more familiar with Rocky L

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Dec 04, 2023 at 03:03:46PM -0500, Edward Zuniga wrote: > > We are upgrading our MRI Lab servers and workstations to AlmaLinux 8. We > have used ext4 for the past 10 years, however we are considering using XFS > for its better performance with larger files. Which file system do you use > fo

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 1:51 AM Paul Robert Marino wrote: > With NFS always go with EXT4 because NFS isn't compatible with 64bit inodes, so you need to disable a flag with XFS for "inode64" which means on files over 2GB XFS' will need to create multiple inodes instead of 1 at the beginning of the f

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Yasha Karant
Although CIS compliance (for "security" of assets) may be a requirement, it is not infallible and often gives a false sense of being secure from compromises. Example: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__techcrunch.com_2023_03_16_cisa-2Dnation-2Dstate-2Dhackers-2Dbreach-2Dfedera

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:06 AM Laura Hild wrote: > > > No! No. No LVM! Bad admin, no biscuit! > > [...] > > *Bad* admin. Where's my squirt bottle? > > Yeah, I wrote "if you're a slice-and-dicer" for a reason. One big root is a > fine option, but it's not the situation I was imagining where one i

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Laura Hild
> No! No. No LVM! Bad admin, no biscuit! > [...] > *Bad* admin. Where's my squirt bottle? Yeah, I wrote "if you're a slice-and-dicer" for a reason. One big root is a fine option, but it's not the situation I was imagining where one is concerned with shrinkability. I think having hard limits on

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Jose Marques
We use EXT4 mostly. We find it to be more robust for lab machines, and more efficient for VMs. XFS is limited to cases where its more advanced features are useful. We treat our user facing systems as being "disposable", if they develop a software/filesystem issue we usually wipe and reinstall ra

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-05 Thread Paul Robert Marino
XFS is a from the ground up journaling filesystem, whereas EXT4 is still a journal tacked on filesystem. That's said EXT4 has caught up to XFS and in some specific cases exceeded its performance but not all. The short version is it depends on what you are doing both have pros and cons, Here are s

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 5:07 PM Laura Hild wrote: > > > But shrinking a partition is something that is far less likely to need > > to be done in an enterprise environment (compared to me fighting with > > too old hardware at home), so maybe that doesn't really matter. > > Especially if you use LVM

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Laura Hild
> But shrinking a partition is something that is far less likely to need > to be done in an enterprise environment (compared to me fighting with > too old hardware at home), so maybe that doesn't really matter. Especially if you use LVM and leave free space in the VG. If you're a slice-and-dicer

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Laura Hild
I've been letting it default as long as it's been EL's default, and the last time I had trouble with XFS was EL6.2.

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Alec Habig
The one minor gotcha Pat pointed out to me recently: if you want to resize a partition in xfs, you can grow it but not shrink it. But shrinking a partition is something that is far less likely to need to be done in an enterprise environment (compared to me fighting with too old hardware at home),

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Personally, I'm very fond of XFS. Its been a while, but the last time I really looked into it, XFS had a static memory allotment for each mount whereas EXT4 was able to shrink the memory requirements based on the size of the mountpoints. In theory you may not feel the difference, but if you've go

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Miles ONeal
December 4, 2023 14:17 To: Edward Zuniga ; SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS@fnal.gov Subject: Re: XFS vs Ext4 Cirrus isn't a lab, but we run clusters, have over a thousand workstations, and have many more infrastructure systems. We haven't used ext4 in a good while except on a few legacy ho

Re: XFS vs Ext4

2023-12-04 Thread Miles ONeal
Cirrus isn't a lab, but we run clusters, have over a thousand workstations, and have many more infrastructure systems. We haven't used ext4 in a good while except on a few legacy hosts. xfs has been fast and stable. I don't recall the last time I saw fsck run, but it was before moving to xfs. Al

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Security ERRATA Important: kernel on SL7.x x86_64 (and possibly unrelated update packages)

2023-09-05 Thread Gilbert E. Detillieux
Thanks, Patrick. It's all good now! Gilbert On 2023-09-01 9:18 a.m., Patrick Riehecky wrote: Sorry for the delay, In theory this was fixed up overnight. Are you still seeing the issue? On Thu, 2023-08-31 at 09:20 -0500, Gilbert E. Detillieux wrote: When I try to run "yum update" now, I get

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Security ERRATA Important: kernel on SL7.x x86_64 (and possibly unrelated update packages)

2023-09-01 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Sorry for the delay, In theory this was fixed up overnight. Are you still seeing the issue? On Thu, 2023-08-31 at 09:20 -0500, Gilbert E. Detillieux wrote: > When I try to run "yum update" now, I get the following dependency > errors (below).  I suspect some packages unrelated to the kernel > up

Re: Security ERRATA Important: kernel on SL7.x x86_64 (and possibly unrelated update packages)

2023-08-31 Thread Gilbert E. Detillieux
When I try to run "yum update" now, I get the following dependency errors (below). I suspect some packages unrelated to the kernel update were released from "fastbugs" prematurely, without their dependencies coming along for the ride... Gilbert Resolving Dependencies --> Runnin

Re: External: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Checksum issues with a couple of packages in .treeinfo

2023-06-21 Thread Patrick Riehecky
other for quite a while now, and will allow me to > retire my old mirror infrastructure. > > Thanks a bunch! > > > -Original Message- > From: Patrick Riehecky > Sent: June 21, 2023 8:35 AM > To: Robert Wagner ; scientific-linux- > users > Subject: Re: Exter

RE: External: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Checksum issues with a couple of packages in .treeinfo

2023-06-21 Thread Robert Wagner
-users Subject: Re: External: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Checksum issues with a couple of packages in .treeinfo [You don't often get email from riehe...@fnal.gov. Learn why this is important at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aka.ms_LearnAboutSenderIdentification&d

Re: External: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Checksum issues with a couple of packages in .treeinfo

2023-06-21 Thread Patrick Riehecky
img > b59900cd10296a7bd8ae6c49afeafbde8e02ccdef5f81f8cbe7a508a5c0e5169 >  upgrade.img > > > I've read that I might be able to get away with changing my mirror to > on-demand rather than a full download, so I may try that tomorrow. > > > Cheers and thanks, &g

Re: External: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Checksum issues with a couple of packages in .treeinfo

2023-06-20 Thread Robert Wagner
27;ve read that I might be able to get away with changing my mirror to on-demand rather than a full download, so I may try that tomorrow. Cheers and thanks, Rob From: Patrick Riehecky Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2023 3:29 PM To: Robert Wagner ; scientific-l

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Checksum issues with a couple of packages in .treeinfo

2023-06-20 Thread Patrick Riehecky
On Tue, 2023-06-20 at 21:01 +, Robert Wagner wrote: > > Greetings, > > >   I'm writing because I'm having an issue with mirroring the SL7 OS > repository locally using our Foreman/Katello instance. > > > The issue I'm having is that a couple of the files listed in > .treeinfo in the root o

Re: thunderbird-102.7.1-2.el7_9 still doesn't work with MS365

2023-02-15 Thread Orion Poplawski
u check that you have the correct sources? TB seems to have done some kind > of re-release which seems error prone. I may have spoken too soon. While I definitely was having connection issues to start, eventually it did manage to connect. -- Orion Poplawski IT Systems Manager

Solution, Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-12 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 08:18:14PM -0800, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > root@daq00:~# ssh ladd00 > Unable to negotiate with 142.90.111.60 port 22: no matching host key type > found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss > bash-3.2$ ssh -

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-11 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
with careful observation, is worth its weight in anti-matter. At last look, that's about 62 trillion USD/gram? > Re the TRIUMF photo, that's not my scope, I have a much newer one, but > for some tasks, old scopes are better. > > The photo is taken in the walkway of the meson ha

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-11 Thread Finch, Alex
If you want to see what is involved in preserving old particle physics data, read the story of how JADE data from the 1980s was re-analysed in the 2000s thanks to incredible efforts by a few collaboration members. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
fixed the hard way. K.O. > Another condecending Unix / Linux user. > By the way my great,great,great grandfather was a Hessian solder and > decided he like the country, jumped ship, married a lady and had 12 > Children. > > Larry Linder > > > > On Tue, 2023-01-10

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-10 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
pport the "open data" approach, where general public has access to experiment data. But not to raw data, without calibrations and interpretations, raw data is dangerous, john q. public can easily "analyse it wrong". this is a hot debate topic in the physics community. https://ope

Re: Perpetual Data (SL6 ssh fail)

2023-01-10 Thread Larry Linder
ther was a Hessian solder and decided he like the country, jumped ship, married a lady and had 12 Children. Larry Linder On Tue, 2023-01-10 at 11:49 -0800, Keith Lofstrom wrote: > > From: Konstantin Olchanski > > Subject: Re: SL6 ssh fail > ... > > It looks like my remaining

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Yasha Karant
I respectfully disagree -- I really do not attempt to distribute the IBM marketing tactic of "fear, uncertainty, doubt" (adopted by other entities as well). However, when Ubuntu LTS lists an update as a security update, I do take notice. SL derived from RHEL did the same if memory serves. Yo

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:09 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 03:26:33PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > > > > The SL6 issue is a different matter. Not only are various > > applications vulnerable to compromises from the Internet, but so is > > the kernel as well as kernel s

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 9:03 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 08:04:19PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > ... you can validate the source tarballs and review any patches and the > > .spec file. > > > > no, I cannot validate and review this. I am not clever enough.

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 03:26:33PM -0800, Yasha Karant wrote: > > The SL6 issue is a different matter. Not only are various > applications vulnerable to compromises from the Internet, but so is > the kernel as well as kernel systems support software. > This is FUD. Which applications, which expl

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Mon, Jan 09, 2023 at 08:04:19PM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > ... you can validate the source tarballs and review any patches and the .spec > file. > no, I cannot validate and review this. I am not clever enough. Could never figure out even obfuscated C contest puzzles, forget about cy

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2023 at 4:15 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 08, 2023 at 08:48:33AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > > > There is a third party SRPM at: > > > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rnd.rajven.net_centos_6_os_SRPMS_openssh-2D6.4p1-2D1cnt6

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Yasha Karant
vulnerabilities are "discovered", patches/re-writes also should be made available to lessen the risk of a compromise. The mechanical bicycle analogy is not truly applicable. A macroscopic mechanical device can be kept in service provided spares are available, can be substituted

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-09 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Sun, Jan 08, 2023 at 08:48:33AM -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > There is a third party SRPM at: > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rnd.rajven.net_centos_6_os_SRPMS_openssh-2D6.4p1-2D1cnt6.1.src.rpm&d=DwIBaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:51 AM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > > > > SL 6 is obsolete, maybe time to upgrade? > > > > > Looking on my list of SL6 machines: There is a third party SRPM at: https://urldefen

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-07 Thread olli hauer
On 2023-01-07 07:50, Konstantin Olchanski wrote: I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: SL 6 is obsolete, maybe time to upgrade? Looking on my list of SL6 machines: experiment stations: dragon, musr, bnmr/bnqr, pol, titan. these are medium/small sized experim

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-07 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 7, 2023 at 1:51 AM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > > > > > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > > > > SL 6 is obsolete, maybe time to upgrade? > > > > > Looking on my list of SL6 machines: > > experiment stations: dragon, musr, bnmr/bnqr, pol, titan.

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-06 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: > > SL 6 is obsolete, maybe time to upgrade? > Looking on my list of SL6 machines: experiment stations: dragon, musr, bnmr/bnqr, pol, titan. these are medium/small sized experiments, all software updates must be coordin

Re: SL6 ssh fail

2023-01-05 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Jan 5, 2023 at 11:18 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > > I cannot ssh to SL6 machines from current MacOS or Debian 20 or 22: SL 6 is obsolete, the upstream RHEL 6 is out of primary support for more than 2 years. Maybe time to upgrade? > root@daq00:~# ssh ladd00 > Unable to negotiate with

Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine

2023-01-05 Thread Götz Waschk
Am 05.01.23 um 04:31 schrieb Yasha Karant: SL originally was rebuilt through Fermilab/CERN for HEP and adopted by a number of persons who wanted a stable "hardened enterprise" Linux. Because of the association with HEP and the needed computational resources for the support of HEP, I was curious

Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine

2023-01-04 Thread Yasha Karant
SL originally was rebuilt through Fermilab/CERN for HEP and adopted by a number of persons who wanted a stable "hardened enterprise" Linux. Because of the association with HEP and the needed computational resources for the support of HEP, I was curious if anyone on this list was or will be invo

Re: Crucial Computer Program for Particle Physics at Risk of Obsolescence | Quanta Magazine

2023-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:34 PM Yasha Karant wrote: > > Is anyone on this list using or involved with FORM? Although the > account below is for the popular press, the content is relevant, as is > the retention, tenure, and promotion process for university-based > faculty who often are the (sub)PI

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 1:45 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote: > - NFS-Root support. Last I tried, RHEL-8 would not NFS-boot without major > effort. Diskless clients (NFS root) are working fine for me with AlmaLinux 9.1. The main prerequisite is installing the "readonly-root" package. > - NIS suppo

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Patrick Riehecky
On Thu, 2022-12-08 at 13:30 -0500, Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 9:38 AM Behrens, Lars (PHI) > wrote: > > > > > CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the > > > standard > > > distribution for experiments > > > > Will there be (or is there already) an upgrade

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 9:38 AM Behrens, Lars (PHI) wrote: > > > CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the standard > > distribution for experiments > > Will there be (or is there already) an upgrade path from Scientific 7 > to AlmaLinux 8? > > I know they have scripts to switch fr

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
For the record, this view of CERN is very wrong. It implies that CERN keeps "the good stuff" hidden for itself, excludes scientists who are not "in". Actual situation is quite different, as many people know and most people can experience first hand by joining projects and discussion forums hosted

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Behrens, Lars (PHI)
> CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the standard > distribution for experiments Will there be (or is there already) an upgrade path from Scientific 7 to AlmaLinux 8? I know they have scripts to switch from CentOS/RHEL but have found none so far for SL. Cheerz, Lars smime.p

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-08 Thread Jose Marques
We moved to Centos 8 for user facing servers, from Fedora, during the pandemic. We needed more stability. We switched to AlmaLinux 8 a few months before the Centos 8 went EoL (using the AlmaLinux migration script). We now use AlmaLinux 9 and have no regrets. On the topic of dnf vs. yum. From th

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-07 Thread Yasha Karant
Hi Glenn, I find it unusual that HEP will find an AlmaLinux list of much use in many circumstances. Internal to CERN, and perhaps Fermilab and/or the various signatories to which HEP collaborations are getting AlmaLinux from CERN/Fermilab (along with any experiment/data analysis specific sof

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-07 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 07:53:26PM +, Glenn Cooper wrote: > > CERN and Fermilab jointly plan to provide AlmaLinux as the standard > distribution for experiments at our facilities ... > I think "too late, too little". The ship has sailed and many people switched to Ubuntu. Switching "back" i

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-07 Thread Glenn Cooper
Hi Yasha, > Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that > currently is provided for Scientific Linux? AlmaLinux has its own support channels, so those are the way to go if you choose Alma. > Will this list transition into an AlmaLinux list? There are no plans for t

Re: Fermilab/CERN recommendation for Linux distribution

2022-12-07 Thread Yasha Karant
Will CERN/Fermilab provide the same level of support to AlmaLinux that currently is provided for Scientific Linux? Will this list transition into an AlmaLinux list? I have looked at the non-vendor lists for non-vendor ports of production RHEL current (CentOS basically is a vendor port). Very

Re: Trouble with kernel-3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64

2022-11-09 Thread Larry Linder
Since you have only 1 system with problem. We had a system that became unstable after a few years. We did a memory test and there it was. Dos memory wear out - hit by stray cosmic ray or ??? Swapped out memory and its all back and stable. On Tue, 2022-11-08 at 12:56 -0700, Orion Poplawski wrote:

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] devtoolset-12?

2022-10-04 Thread Patrick Riehecky
These are the sources I pulled down from the redhat ftp site. I'm not seeing it up there now... curious... Pat On Mon, 2022-10-03 at 20:53 -0700, Patrick J. LoPresti wrote: > Thanks, Pat. > > So these are your sources? Or they came from somewhere else? > > Trying to decide whether to build it

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] devtoolset-12?

2022-10-03 Thread Patrick J. LoPresti
Thanks, Pat. So these are your sources? Or they came from somewhere else? Trying to decide whether to build it for myself or if I can grab it from a repository. - Pat On Mon, Oct 3, 2022 at 5:32 PM Patrick Riehecky wrote: > > Hello, > > The devtoolset-12 SRPMs were added to the SL7 source rep

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] devtoolset-12?

2022-10-03 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Hello, The devtoolset-12 SRPMs were added to the SL7 source repo because they were needed to build the new firefox and thunderbird packages. I try to have the sources for our build chain up where folks can grab them if they feel so inclined. Hope all is well (also) Pat On Mon, 2022-10-03 at 17

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] perfect chick / egg problem

2022-01-15 Thread Jose Marques
Back in the day, using Xorg. If you login to the console as a user, and then run an X app as root, then root can't talk to the X server because it doesn't have the shared secret in the user's ~/.Xauthority file. For non-NFS user home directories you can get around this by setting the XAUTHORITY

Re: perfect chick / egg problem

2022-01-15 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 11:26 AM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > The solution: > > Make a bootable usb flash on widnows 10 laptop and it works. The > application sees that a couple of files are missing from Alma 8.5 and > adds them. > > If you use "dd" it

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] perfect chick / egg problem

2022-01-15 Thread Jose Marques
art and puppet. It was a lot of work to set up but that only needs to be done once. Now we can have a machine running with whatever setup we need in a very short time. If our user facing servers have a software issue, we find it easier to wipe and re-install than trying to fix them. We customise

cancel "root", Re: perfect chick / egg problem

2022-01-15 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
> > The Linux community's decision to cancel "root" is the dumbest Idea I > have ever experienced. If you have another account with root priveladge > - what is the point. If its hacked the same result. > I was just looking at the same thing. As I understand, the fake non-root root user is need

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-04 Thread Marcelo Ferrarotti
Hello, have you tried this? https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.plop.at_en_bootmanagers.html&d=DwIFaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=LXtMJLL75E23Dy8lk8HA9sQgMQwDyw94d-8zzFARP7MPDNDpGoXK9qZh2wY5Uw4z&s=5A_mPihVP-WILX

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-04 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022, Larry Linder wrote: Planning to upgrade a number of WS's to Alma 8.5. I need to ask them a question but their web site says my brouser is too old. So I can't ask them a question about installing Alma 8.5 Since some developers monitor this web page. I was hoping to get a qu

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-04 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 5:26 PM Larry Linder <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > > Planning to upgrade a number of WS's to Alma 8.5. > I need to ask them a question but their web site says my brouser is too > old. So I can't ask them a question about installing Alma 8.5 > >

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-03 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
Hi, Larry, obviously you are not limited to using USB and DVD install media, you can "dd" the install image to an HDD or SSD, boot and install from that. Not sure about your Gigabyte BS problems. I use ASUS mobos exclusively because BIOS is BS free. K.O. On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 05:26:21PM -050

Re: perfect chicken egg Alma Web site.

2022-01-03 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 2:26 PM Larry Linder < 0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote: > Planning to upgrade a number of WS's to Alma 8.5. > I need to ask them a question but their web site says my brouser is too > old. So I can't ask them a question about installing Alma 8.5 > >

Re: Repo for updateso to an old SL

2021-12-20 Thread Konstantin Olchanski
On Sun, Dec 19, 2021 at 09:34:57PM +0100, Elio Fabri wrote: > I'm stil using SL 6.2 (waiting for the fog about future SL, CentOS > ... to dissolve). > I'm in need to update firefox. A version for RHEL6 systems exists > (firefox-91.4.1esr) but yum finds no repo for that package. > Some help? Thx Th

Re: SL 6.5 User

2021-12-20 Thread Jack Aboutboul
Hi Larry, Thanks for the feedback. Can you please share more details on what you reported and to whom? I doubt that we would shoot the messenger as we are pretty responsive to everyone. If you provide me with more details or a link to something I can try and see first, how we can help you and seco

Re: Repo for updateso to an old SL

2021-12-19 Thread ~Stack~
Greetings, On 12/19/21 2:34 PM, Elio Fabri wrote: Hi all, I'm stil using SL 6.2 (waiting for the fog about future SL, CentOS ... to dissolve). I'm in need to update firefox. A version for RHEL6 systems exists (firefox-91.4.1esr) but yum finds no repo for that package. Some help? Thx A few

Re: Repo for updateso to an old SL

2021-12-19 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
CentOS furor or not, SL 6 is unsupportable, and SL 7 is still supported. For such a package, I'd look at https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__rpm.pbone.net_&d=DwIBaQ&c=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA&r=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A&m=RJKKXZT5cNCXrPBMHSe0n1

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Fix Linux Login Loop

2021-12-07 Thread Jose Marques
Get at text console, pressing Control-Alt-F6 works on a test system I have here (other function keys may work). If you still can't login there may be more messages pointing at the cause. If you can login then it may be the disk or quota is full. It may also be that you added a command to you bas

Re: Fix Linux Login Loop

2021-12-07 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Mon, 6 Dec 2021, Khaled Ali wrote: My linux is stuck in a login loop when trying to enter my desktop. When I login, the screen gets black and soon after that the login screen comes back. Which version of linux - SL7, SL8 or Fedora ? Do you know whether you are running X or Wayland ? You s

Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] Error in 7.x mirror list

2021-11-30 Thread Patrick Riehecky
Thanks for the report, it should be fixed now. Pat On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 00:56 +0100, Karsten Suehring wrote: > Hi, > > I noticed that I'm regularly seeing 404 errors for package updates > from scientificlinux.org. I found this is caused by a problem in the > mirrors list, which gets downloaded

Re: nxserver: no access to display [SOLVED]

2021-11-15 Thread Ekkard Gerlach
solved! #AGENT_EXTRA_OPTIONS_X="-nolisten tcp"   #    is commented out!! AGENT_EXTRA_OPTIONS_X="" is the solution! That deletes the default X argument, although its commented out in standard node.conf!! Thanks to Michael from Vienna: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-14 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Sat, 13 Nov 2021, Ekkard Gerlach wrote: Sorry, my customer is bound to SL 6.10, a medical programm is only supported under 6.10 (and ubuntu 20.04) Ubuntu 20.04 is an LTS version, in long-term support until ... mainstream April 2023, extended security maintenance April 2030. I would see whe

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Ekkard Gerlach
I don't know ... other service provider installed the server. Am 13.11.21 um 23:01 schrieb Nico Kadel-Garcia: Is that nx server from the freenx package? BTW: my customer don't need the feature really! I am ambitious to solve it! I hoped that there is a easy solution, maybe a known SL 6.10 fea

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
Is that nx server from the freenx package? On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:59 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > > > Sorry, my customer is bound to SL 6.10, a medical programm is only > > supported under 6.10 (and ubuntu 20.04) , a new server was

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 4:14 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > Sorry, my customer is bound to SL 6.10, a medical programm is only > supported under 6.10 (and ubuntu 20.04) , a new server was just > installed 2 months ago for 25 linux workstations (XDMCP linux clients, > Win10 with NX ). Thats the serve

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Ekkard Gerlach
Sorry, my customer is bound to SL 6.10, a medical programm is only supported under 6.10 (and ubuntu 20.04) , a new server was just installed 2 months ago for 25 linux workstations (XDMCP linux clients, Win10 with NX ). Thats the server for next 5-7 years!! No update possible, special features f

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 3:08 PM Nico Kadel-Garcia wrote: > > On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:22 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > using SL 6.10, nxserver 3.2.0-74 . > > Stop there. Update to SL 7 if you expect contemporary tools to work or > continue to work: the underlying RHEL 6 from up

Re: nxserver: no access to display X via network "-nolisten tcp"

2021-11-13 Thread Nico Kadel-Garcia
On Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 2:22 PM Ekkard Gerlach wrote: > > Hello, > > using SL 6.10, nxserver 3.2.0-74 . Stop there. Update to SL 7 if you expect contemporary tools to work or continue to work: the underlying RHEL 6 from upstream The final release of RHEL 6 was more than 3 years ago. Nico Kadel-

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