e we are
>>> holding discussions and gathering feedback from experiments and other
>>> collaborators.
>>>
>>> We are working on it and will make an announcement soon.
>>>
>>> Bonnie King
>>>
>>> __
Thanks Konstantin for your kind words.
We view every as being on the same ship as well. We are all working towards one
common goal, part of the same island and are glad to collaborate with everyone.
Jack
> On May 5, 2021, at 18:13, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 03, 2021 at
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Jack
>>>>
>>>>> On May 3, 2021, at 07:25, Bonnie King wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Konstantin,
>>>>>
>>>>> There hasn't been any official statement. On the Fermilab side we
entific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
> Cc: scientific-linux-users
> Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
>
> For our use, free is definitely a positive, but not a requirement.
>
> We deploy our product's control systems and are really looking for the
On Thu, May 06, 2021 at 01:22:06AM +0100, Mark Rousell wrote:
> On 05/05/2021 23:13, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> >
> > Things seem to be much quieter and event-less in the BSD and Debian (& co)
> > camps.
>
> I greatly fear that the BSDs are gradually losing the battle to keep up
> with Linux
Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
For our use, free is definitely a positive, but not a requirement.
We deploy our product's control systems and are really looking for the
long term stability and security patches. I wouldn't have a problem
with purchasing licenses, as long as it didn't get in the way
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 6:22 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>
> On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> >
> > >- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense,
> > >with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3
On 5/5/21 5:21 PM, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
[snip]
(OK, C++20 support in g++ 10.2.1 is "experimental).
And so what?
I can take SL-6 and graft modern versions of all
On 05/05/2021 23:13, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>
> Things seem to be much quieter and event-less in the BSD and Debian (& co)
> camps.
I greatly fear that the BSDs are gradually losing the battle to keep up
with Linux in terms of newer features and support for certain classes of
hardware. It
On 05/05/2021 23:53, Yasha Karant wrote:
> From the list you reference below, I find
>
> Amazon Web Services
>
> (AWS) is *NOT* a small (market share, startup, etc) for-profit entity.
> Is AWS looking at an alternative to licensing IBM RH EL that AWS can
> use without any license for fee? AWS has
aturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
To: Dave Dykstra
Cc: scientific-linux-users
Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream
for now (or Sci
What you describe -- replacing a distro's utilities by those from other
than the distro -- is done in practice for *SOME* things, as most on
this list do. However, under no condition should this be called a
stable distro, let alone an "enterprise hardened stable" distro, without
the amount of
gt; There hasn't been any official statement. On the Fermilab side we are
> >>> holding discussions and gathering feedback from experiments and other
> >>> collaborators.
> >>>
> >>> We are working on it and will make an announcement soon.
> >>
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 11:00:00PM +0100, Andrew C Aitchison wrote:
> On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>
> >- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense,
> >with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3 years and
> >bye, bye, c++14, c++17, c++20.
>
> Is Red Hat Developer
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 05:54:35PM -0400, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
>
> I am a long time Fedora person and now the community manager of AlmaLinux.
>
Hi, Jack - good to hear from AlmaLinux. I wish you and your project best luck
and speedy progress.
I do not think of Alma Linux, Rocky Linux, etc as
On Tue, May 04, 2021 at 10:57:11AM +, Jose Marques wrote:
>
> My view is that Stream is exactly what RHEL say it is, a development
> distribution to which 3rd parties can contribute to RHEL development and from
> which 3rd parties can base their own distributions. It's not for end users,
>
First off, IBM, the big company, has nothing to do with any of Red Hat
development. We (Red Hat) are a completely separate company whose profits
go to IBM. We have a completely separate legal staff, health care,
management, engineers, policies, everything. So, quit saying that we (Red
Hat) get
On Tue, 4 May 2021, Yasha Karant wrote:
I fully concur -- a clear statement of a concern about the source and any
authentication/pay-walls limiting access to that source. I assume that the
official rebuilders other than SL have paid the necessary fees to download
the real, actual, production
You stated:
all sorts of tests that we can't do in
public, and make tweaks and changes that we can't do in public. This is
mainly due to hardware NDA's, and security stuff.
End excerpt.
1. Are these NDA enabled tweaks, changes, and tests that are in the
production releases of IBM RH EL
On Tue, May 4, 2021 at 10:01 AM Yasha Karant wrote:
> If I correctly have read the RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9
> will be in production before the end of this year, leapfrogging EL 8 as
> it were.
>
I just want to clean up one point, because it seems you mis-understood the
-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=WwimKFFTyT3RShYiLFCGJpfGoLSUOFCE0z0_KBEyonY=TeQZDfODXKCZcEMTkVQuDIuZmOkbTDT3Q1tUmniPwKY=
as long as you have a suitable account.
And, in any case, after CentOS 8 support ends then the only CentOS
sources will be CentOS Stream sources which, as has been discussed at
length,
On 5/4/21 3:38 PM, James M. Pulver wrote:
Maybe the AlmaLinux reddit (might also be one for Rocky?
Both Alma and Rocky have fairly active reddits.
.
And, in any case, after CentOS 8 support ends then the only CentOS
sources will be CentOS Stream sources which, as has been discussed at
length, will not be suitable for many use cases.
Just to rephrase it: RHEL SOURCES are at the mentioned git server
and before RHEL7 it where on there FTP
ack from experiments and other
> > collaborators.
> >
> > We are working on it and will make an announcement soon.
> >
> > Bonnie King
> >
> >
> > From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
> > on behalf of Konstantin
On 05/05/2021 00:38, Yasha Karant wrote:
> I have not attempted to get a "dev" IBM RH license that supposedly is
> at no cost -- has anyone done so and down a full buildable source
> download?
Just go here to create a free dev account (which allows up to 16 RHEL
instances and, of course, access
K3COgKfyQyUEjt2ii5IY=p3k8zDAgC2P7lVIg-CwRQDgEYcVE4tshZ2NTxmm8ZDM= as long as you have
a suitable account.
And, in any case, after CentOS 8 support ends then the only CentOS
sources will be CentOS Stream sources which, as has been discussed at
length, will not be suitable for many use cases.
l?u=https-3A__access.redhat.com_downloads_=DwICaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=j7HyDpnhirEMJBg_NyqSf43v4NrMklLO4X7inAV3jK0=rd9KTZHBwuQQQ7W-Q27rrfW6d3PRUEOiLF2R0s3xmDg=
as long as you have
a suitable account.
And, in any case, after
Alma uses in place of a more traditional web forum.
You state that there will not be a CentOS 9 and only a CentOS Stream
perpetual alpha or beta channel.
To be clear, I'm just an observer of all this but surely the whole point
of Red Hat's infamous announcement is that CentOS 8 is to be the l
eb forum.
> You state that there will not be a CentOS 9 and only a CentOS Stream
> perpetual alpha or beta channel.
To be clear, I'm just an observer of all this but surely the whole point
of Red Hat's infamous announcement is that CentOS 8 is to be the last
version of n
On Tue, 4 May 2021, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense,
with everybody stuck with el7 for another 3 years and
bye, bye, c++14, c++17, c++20.
Is Red Hat Developer Toolset 10
On 04/05/2021 21:51, Jack Aboutboul wrote:
> Yes and contrary to the pure FUD that has been spread around, the AlmaLinux
> OS Foundation is in fact a 501©6 non-profit and our governing board includes
> a leadership from diverse backgrounds, some from industry and even Simon
> Phipps, former
39 PM
To: Dave Dykstra
Cc: Bonnie King; Konstantin Olchanski; scientific-linux-users
Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
Dave,
Thanks for your response. My message was going to everyone on the
list,not necessarily just the decision makers. To me/us it’s important
to involve
On 5/4/21 3:42 PM, Yasha Karant wrote:
You state that there will not be a CentOS 9 and only a CentOS Stream
perpetual alpha or beta channel. I thought that IBM RH would not
directly release buildable production EL source, but would channel it
under a CentOS moniker. CentOS Stream is *NOT*
Yes and contrary to the pure FUD that has been spread around, the AlmaLinux OS
Foundation is in fact a 501©6 non-profit and our governing board includes a
leadership from diverse backgrounds, some from industry and even Simon Phipps,
former president and current standard & policy director at
ific-linux-users
Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
Dave,
Thanks for your response. My message was going to everyone on the list, not
necessarily just the decision makers. To me/us it’s important to involve the
whole community not just any specific decision maker
Your statement at the end indicates that I have missed a source
distribution channel. The discourse concerning the ergonomics of a list
such as this versus an eyecandy "Ask Ubuntu" (with character count
limitations on the length of postings) approach is worthwhile, but
perhaps at a later time
On 04/05/2021 20:51, James M. Pulver wrote:
> Honestly, I've seen a lot of the FLOSS community prefer Rocky over Alma, and
> I think it's because Rocky is actually not backed by any company. However, we
> see how that went before, and I just think Rocky as described is ripe for
> CENTOS 2.0 to
On 04/05/2021 18:01, Yasha Karant wrote:
> then one is forced to either Rocky or AlmaLinux, assuming either
> pushes out an EL 9 clone as soon as CentOS or other IBM RH buildable
> source is released.
Well, we know there's not going to be a CentOS 9. There will obviously
be a CentOS Stream 9 but,
onnie King; Konstantin Olchanski; scientific-linux-users
Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
Dave,
Thanks for your response. My message was going to everyone on the list, not
necessarily just the decision makers. To me/us it’s important to involve the
whole community not j
Jack,
From what I can tell, SL users is not a developers/internals list as
such -- those also exist. It is an experienced, "sysadmin", porting,
running, and defect-work-around list. Many of the questions that I have
asked and the few that I have answered are similar to what I have posted
to
University
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Jack Aboutboul
Sent: Tuesday, May 4, 2021 2:39 PM
To: Dave Dykstra
Cc: Bonnie King; Konstantin Olchanski; scientific-linux-users
Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
Dave,
Thanks for your re
-users
Subject: Re: [SL-Users] Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
If I correctly have read the IBH RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9
will be in production before the end of this year, leapfrogging EL 8 as
it were. I wonder how much of this is due to the various issues with EL
ncement soon.
>>>
>>> Bonnie King
>>>
>>>
>>> From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
>>> on behalf of Konstantin
>>> Olchanski
>>> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
>
resources to do same.
- there is no suggestion of CERN providing extended support for CentOS-8. To
me, this would be the obvious path forward.
- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense, with everybody stuck
with el7 for another 3 years and bye, bye, c++14, c++17, c++20.
- second slide of &q
ntos", CERN+Fermilab have even more resources to do same.
- there is no suggestion of CERN providing extended support for CentOS-8. To
me, this would be the obvious path forward.
- first slide of "distribution landscape" is nonsense, with everybody stuck
with el7 for another 3 years
If I correctly have read the IBH RH EL9 CentOS announcement below, EL 9
will be in production before the end of this year, leapfrogging EL 8 as
it were. I wonder how much of this is due to the various issues with EL
8? As SL 8 is not happening, SL 9 certainly is not -- forcing one to
choose
On 04.05.21 17:41, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Yasha,
I'll try to answer as I understand things as an observer.
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:51:30PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
...
1. Fermilab and the non-CERN HEP community are not part of the Linux Future
Community analysis as far as I can read, but
Yasha,
I'll try to answer as I understand things as an observer.
On Mon, May 03, 2021 at 02:51:30PM -0700, Yasha Karant wrote:
...
> 1. Fermilab and the non-CERN HEP community are not part of the Linux Future
> Community analysis as far as I can read, but are consulted later after the
>
__
> > From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
> > on behalf of Konstantin
> > Olchanski
> > Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
> > To: Dave Dykstra
> > Cc: scientific-linux-users
> > Subject: Re: any update on
nux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: [SCIENTIFIC-LINUX-USERS] [SL-Users] Re: any update on CERN Linux
and CentOS-8 situation?
When the Centos 8 news came out, I tried out Centos Stream against our
configuration. Kickstart and Puppet config needed very little change and I was
able to bring up a VM in our lab
When the Centos 8 news came out, I tried out Centos Stream against our
configuration. Kickstart and Puppet config needed very little change and I was
able to bring up a VM in our lab config quite easily.
I have two observations:
1) Updates are sparse, none for ages then a large batch
I will respond inline here.
> Linux Future Committee
> Membership is internally comprised of representatives of key business units
> of CERN
>
> Future Linux distributions will be RPM based•
AlmaLinux is RPM based and 1:1 compatible with CentOS and will continue to be
with RHEL.
> Efforts
t soon.
>
> Bonnie King
>
>
> From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
> on behalf of Konstantin
> Olchanski
> Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
> To: Dave Dykstra
> Cc: scientific-linux-users
> Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situa
, and in the meanwhile we can use CentOS 8
until the end of this year or CentOS 8 stream.
Dave
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 05:03:20PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote:
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +, Dave Dykstra wrote:
Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream
that they're sticking with something related to RHEL,
will decide later which one, and in the meanwhile we can use CentOS 8
until the end of this year or CentOS 8 stream.
Dave
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 05:03:20PM -0500, John R. Dennison wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +, Dave Dyks
I have to second Konstantin on the main drivers for linux. C++ and python.
We've opted to use Fedora for folks who want them (all desktops) but we're
sticking with CentOS-7 for servers. We have a couple of CentOS-8 appliances but
we'll be replacing them with BSD.
For those who are curious
-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Konstantin
Olchanski
Sent: Saturday, May 1, 2021 9:27 AM
To: Dave Dykstra
Cc: scientific-linux-users
Subject: Re: any update on CERN Linux and CentOS-8 situation?
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +, Dave Dykstra wrote:
> Both Fermi
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:35 PM Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
>
> Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux?
Many sysadmins are... unhappy about CentOS 8 Stream. The idea that
CentOS is no longer a clone but instead the beta testing playground
for RHEL has profoundly upset them
On 2021/05/01 2:35, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux?
Per https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ CERN users are strongly encouraged
to use CentOS-8 while the same page states that support for CentOS-8 will
end at the end of this year. Update is promised
Given the use of CentOS 8 stream, I am curious about support and
"hardening". Some of the Fermilab and CERN machines are connected to
the outside Internet (WAN), including (as I recall) some of the
connections between CERN and the various EU, USA, etc., HEP
collaborators (although
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 09:35:02PM +, Dave Dykstra wrote:
> Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream
> for now (or Scientific Linux 7 or CentOS 7) and will evaluate later
> whether or not to switch to one of the clones.
Can you please provide a
Both Fermilab and CERN have stated that they plan to use CentOS 8 stream
for now (or Scientific Linux 7 or CentOS 7) and will evaluate later
whether or not to switch to one of the clones.
Dave
On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:35:18AM -0700, Konstantin Olchanski wrote:
> Any news or upda
Any news or updates on the status of CERN Linux?
Per https://linux.web.cern.ch/centos8/ CERN users are strongly encouraged
to use CentOS-8 while the same page states that support for CentOS-8 will
end at the end of this year. Update is promised "during Q1 2021", today
we are 1/3 in
Just a couple thoughts on framing this "development":
Yasha Karant writes:
> Translation -- as a for-profit vendor, IBM does not want to subsidize
> a competitor to RHEL that is without fee.
I see this move in even worse light. Previously there was mutual
benefit and trust between RH and
/2120621/3569557/CERN_Site_Report_-_HEPiX_Autumn_2020_v2.pdf
As one may remember, CERN Linux, SL and CentOS only exist because
CERN could
not agree with Red Hat on the licensing scheme for LHC-scale computing.
(I guess, at the LHC scale, even small numbers like $1/license become
unworkable).
BT
2020_v2.pdf
As one may remember, CERN Linux, SL and CentOS only exist because CERN could
not agree with Red Hat on the licensing scheme for LHC-scale computing.
(I guess, at the LHC scale, even small numbers like $1/license become
unworkable).
BTW, in other news,
I see the CentOS w
Linux, SL and CentOS only exist because CERN could
not agree with Red Hat on the licensing scheme for LHC-scale computing.
(I guess, at the LHC scale, even small numbers like $1/license become
unworkable).
BTW, in other news,
I see the CentOS wiki was changed to read "CentOS-8 full updat
Am 09.12.20 um 01:39 schrieb Patrick J. LoPresti:
> Very curious how CERN and Fermilab will respond to this.
I guess that CERN was caught red-handed as well. They have already
started to port their internal systems to CentOS8 according to the
recent site report at HEPiX:
With my conspiracy-theory hat on, I suspect the timing of this
announcement, a week after the demise of the much-loved RHEL6.
--
Andrew C. Aitchison Kendal, UK
and...@aitchison.me.uk
I agree with your sentiments, based upon several informal discussions I
have had with CentOS 8 "adopters". "Supported" RHEL 8 seems to be
better -- but are there still issues with EPEL, etc., because of
inappropriate sub-system designations (as with the python example you
RN and Fermilab will respond to this.
>
Nothing from CERN yet. But to sense where the wind is blowing,
note how ROOT still do not provide a binary kit for CentOS-8.
https://root.cern/releases/release-62206/
Our experiment at CERN (ALPHA anti-hydrogen trapping and spectroscopy)
uses CentOS-7 and we
It has been almost exactly seven years since Red Hat bought CentOS (
is there any possibility for scientific linux 8?
we are testing centos 8 for several monthes, but scientific linux is
much better.
? Will Fermilab/CERN provide internal professional
person power (not just grad students and postdocs for whom such support
is only as much as their research supervisor requires) to maintain an
internal RHEL 8 clone from RHEL source? Given that the public
pronouncements were to use CentOS 8 as the RHEL 8
Anyone else on the verge of tears after reading today's CentOS blog post?
Larry,
You are not alone in your fears and concerns. I hope that scientific computing
does not get lost in the years ahead.
Nothing I have heard about CentOS 8 has been comforting.
Steve
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 03:45:30PM -0400, Larry Linder wrote:
>
> We are going to upgrade servers to 6.9 and a workstations to 7.6 and
> hold our breath for the next 4 years.
>
I agree. el6 was probably the best vintage. el7 much suffers from
systemd bogosity (starts things in the wrong order
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 5:50 PM Akemi Yagi wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:56 PM Jose Marques wrote:
>>
>> > On 21 May 2020, at 20:45, Larry Linder
>> > <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote:
>> >
>> > We are going to upgrade servers to 6.9 and a workstations to 7.6 and
On Thu, May 21, 2020 at 12:56 PM Jose Marques
wrote:
> > On 21 May 2020, at 20:45, Larry Linder <
> 0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote:
> >
> > We are going to upgrade servers to 6.9 and a workstations to 7.6 and
> > hold our breath for the next 4 years.
>
> 6.10 and 7.8 are
On Thu, 21 May 2020, Larry Linder wrote:
So the world will migrate to a Chinese tablet or telephone and computers
for industrial and engineering will disappear. If you look at the
slippery slope we will slip back into the dark ages of DOS and Assembly.
There will not be enough of market for
> On 21 May 2020, at 20:45, Larry Linder
> <0dea520dd180-dmarc-requ...@listserv.fnal.gov> wrote:
>
> We are going to upgrade servers to 6.9 and a workstations to 7.6 and
> hold our breath for the next 4 years.
6.10 and 7.8 are out. I suspect the 6.* is going to cause real problems from
the
t; I use Mate (a gnome 2 clone with gnome 3 underneath)
> for my large-screen SL7 systems; works OK.
>
> I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
> result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
> Some of the graphics fails. "Mate8" seems to leak
To: Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide
Subject: Mate for CentOS 8
I still haven't learned how to tweak Gnome 3 so it looks
and operates like Gnome 2.
I dislike video games, which most user desktops seem to
be evolving towards. I dislike icons replacing text;
I learned to read decades
here is not much point to el8.
> >
> > K.O.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 09:48:28PM -0700, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> >>> I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
>
:45 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
> > result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
> > Some of the graphics fails. "Mate8" seems to leak memory.
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 05:08:34PM -0700, Ak
PM Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> > I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
> > result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
> > Some of the graphics fails. "Mate8" seems to leak memory.
>
> On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 05:08:34PM -0700, Ak
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Keith Lofstrom wrote:
> I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
> result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
> Some of the graphics fails. "Mate8" seems to leak memory.
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 05:08:34PM -070
m/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_nkadel_vtwm-2D5.5.x-2Dsrpm=DwIFaQ=gRgGjJ3BkIsb5y6s49QqsA=gd8BzeSQcySVxr0gDWSEbN-P-pgDXkdyCtaMqdCgPPdW1cyL5RIpaIYrCn8C5x2A=86AkxVobOiiYnsxjJOrEG0fPeEVdv7MJpk7i13eP6to=KKB9w_jCPp3S4gTfQXVLVQL4ob76veSK8uFfQU0CeSA=
Still works fine on CentOS
8, SL 7, and Fedora 32. It's *amazing* how much more stable software
can be when you KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid!)
Good luck.
From: owner-scientific-linux-us...@listserv.fnal.gov
on behalf of Akemi Yagi
Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2020 7:08 PM
To: kei...@keithl.com
Cc: Mailing list for Scientific Linux users worldwide
Subject: Re: Mate for CentOS 8
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 4:45 PM Keit
decades ago, and I can't grep icons.
>
> I use Mate (a gnome 2 clone with gnome 3 underneath)
> for my large-screen SL7 systems; works OK.
>
> I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
> result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
> Some of the graphi
underneath)
for my large-screen SL7 systems; works OK.
I've done my feeble best to compile Mate for CentOS 8; my
result is not completely broken, but not ready for use.
Some of the graphics fails. "Mate8" seems to leak memory.
Mate character rendering (SL7 and C8) is fuzzy, just like
On Sun, Nov 3, 2019 at 10:23 PM d tbsky wrote:
>
> Larry Linder
> >1 more week and we have to reload SL 7.6 and give it up. Maybe we will
> > try RH 9 in a few years.
> >
>
> you should wait for at least RHEL 8.1, or 8.2 to try/use it.
> current RHEL 8 is just to give you a feeling for next
Larry Linder
>1 more week and we have to reload SL 7.6 and give it up. Maybe we will
> try RH 9 in a few years.
>
you should wait for at least RHEL 8.1, or 8.2 to try/use it.
current RHEL 8 is just to give you a feeling for next OS.
I replaced Centos 8 video driver with nvidia driver and now the left is
left and right is right. So next sw upgrade this will probably go away
as it did last sw update.
You can't lauch more than one terminal window from the drop down. You
have to launch a terminal window from the previous
On 17/10/2019 18:42, Akemi Yagi wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 8:30 AM Stephan Wiesand
> wrote:
>>
>>> On 17. Oct 2019, at 14:01, David Sommerseth
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> You do know that Oracle EL is based on CentOS source RPMs?
>>
>> Given that they released 8 more than two months before
re
> that's
> correct?
I'm sure David meant "git.centos.org". :)
> Speaking of source RPMs, does anyone know where to find the latest CentOS 8
> ones?
> I thought they're supposed to be available on vault.centos.org, but that
> seems to
> be lagging behind. Am I mis
> On 17. Oct 2019, at 14:01, David Sommerseth
> wrote:
>
> You do know that Oracle EL is based on CentOS source RPMs?
Given that they released 8 more than two months before CentOS, I'm not sure
that's
correct?
Speaking of source RPMs, does anyone know where to find the latest Ce
On 16/10/2019 21:14, Yasha Karant wrote:
Will the SL list continue to exist as a mechanism for raising issues
(and getting suggested solutions) for CentOS post-SL releases? I have
found no equivalent list for either CentOS or the other possibility,
Ubuntu LTS (not RPM based, not RHEL based, but
Hope the SL conversation net will stay alive.
I have found that there is little "noise" when you ask a question.
Most of the stuff you find on the net about a subject is just
nonsensical.
Ask a question or have a problem and you get some real help that works.
I try to keep complaints to the
On 16/10/2019 22:14, Yasha Karant wrote:
> As SL is "going away", and CERN/Fermilab on this list seemed to indicate
> future RHEL major releases would be CentOS deployments, is that in fact
> what is happening? Or will there be RHEL licenses for CERN/Fermilab
> general deployment?
>
> What
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