[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread B Smith
The thing that bothers me is that there shouldn't be that much scarcity with a metro area of a 2 million or so people to scavenge. Idiots take over one store or mall? Move further out and scavenge somewhere else. There are thousands of empty homes raid their cabinets and pantries. Where are th

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread B Smith
And scavenge generators and fuel, solar panels and camping type appliances that can run on dc power in order to preserve their fresh food for as long as possible. The water thing is stupid. Carbon is readily available and they can boil the filtered water or set up a small still to further purif

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to be answered. This was an intro episode and they spent more time introducing characters than getting to the nuts and bolts of survival. The survivors we have met so far are by an large urbanites who are pretty clueless ab

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
I haven't seen the original either. I've seen the first three episodes and the crew starts to wise up pretty quickly. I think Martin hit the nail on the head that seeing 99% of humanity die would throw most folks into a deep depression. The doctor seems shell shocked but I imagine she's been on

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
No because American roads would be vast parking lots filled with stalled cars and rotting corpses. ;) --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" wrote: > > Would you be driving aimlessly > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
d books and libraries as I mentioned before > > -Original Message- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of B Smith > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:45 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread B Smith
om [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of B Smith > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:23 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > I liked The Colony but they were too competent. Their group had engineers, a > couple of scientist

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread B Smith
Some of the plants would continue to operate for a while but if the grids go down it's a moot point. Also the bulk of their plants or coal and natural gas powered. --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Mr. Worf" wrote: > > I can understand power plants like a nuclear plant, but power plants like

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
; > > I'll stop now. LOL > > > > --- In scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" > > wrote: > > > > > > Well you took Buckingham Palace first thing and you love books, so you > > know you are on team Scifi! > > > > > &

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
t-the-series > > > > - Original Message - > From: "B Smith" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > > > > &g

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
of the cities or flee to the country-side? > > > > > > > From: B Smith > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 1:19:19 PM > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > >   > I think there would be

[scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread B Smith
's a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody > hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: daikaij...@

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Mr. Worf
I was thinking that too. Most of the population died in three days so all of animals are still there unless they were infected as well. There was a scene where the boy saw a dead sheep in the water where they were living, but nothing came from it. Also in another episode they came across a small f

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Martin Baxter
B, I'd be afraid to handle the cattle, for fear that the disease that killed everyone might be loitering in them. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM, B Smith wrote: > > > The thing that bothers me is that there shouldn't be that much scarcity > with a metro area of a 2 million or so people to scave

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Martin Baxter
But you're spot-on, re scavenging. There should be tons of canned goods lying about. On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:20 PM, Martin Baxter wrote: > B, I'd be afraid to handle the cattle, for fear that the disease that > killed everyone might be loitering in them. > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 4:17 PM, B S

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors

2010-03-25 Thread Mr. Worf
Not to mention other food distribution centers that they could have taken advantage of. There are bakeries, meat plants, frozen food factories, cheese factories etc all they need is a phone book and a map. Their water problems would be over if they just dropped by the avion factory or Sharper Image

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
ed it, so I was not going to abandon it, but the characters' motivation still irks me -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:59 AM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scif

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
LOL! You got that right -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:59 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? No because American roads would be vast

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Martin Baxter
B, I missed "The Colony" almost completely (working). As for contributing to an apocalypse sitch, I wouldn't have much to toss in the hat. I've always had the gift of being able to manage. That's probably where I'd show up. _

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
ived in the library. Thus my inclination to raid books and libraries as I mentioned before -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 1:45 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scif

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Martin Baxter
ector?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: daikaij...@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 21:58:46 +0000 Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? No because American roads would be

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Tracey de Morsella
groups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I liked The Colony but they were too competent. Their group had engineers, a couple of scientists, a mechanic, a doctor, a nurse and two handymen. The only "deadweight" they had was a personal trainer/martial arts instructor who happened to be

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Mr. Worf
I can understand power plants like a nuclear plant, but power plants like Hoover dam could run for some time until there are failures of the turbines. On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM, B Smith wrote: > Give it an episode or two and everything you guys mentioned will start to > be answered. This

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Mr. Worf
al Message- > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of B Smith > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 11:59 AM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > Give it an episode or two and everything you gu

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-16 Thread Mr. Worf
tv, but maybe this would be good. How do you think we > > would do as a survivor group? > > > > -Original Message- > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On > > Behalf Of B Smith > > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella
I want you on my team!!! :-) -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? we have a pretty good cross section of

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Mr. Worf
gt; Behalf Of B Smith > Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 2:53 PM > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > we have a pretty good cross section of folks that post. I think we might be > lacking a few skillsets but with books and hard work we could m

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella
16, 2010 2:53 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? we have a pretty good cross section of folks that post. I think we might be lacking a few skillsets but with books and hard work we could make a go. I'm pretty well versed in agriculture and could handle the b

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Martin Baxter
To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:23:53 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I can understand power plants like a nuclear plant, but power plants like Hoover dam could run for some time

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Mr. Worf
They have 16 nuclear plants in the UK. Unless they shut them down the reality is that anyone that is left would find out what multiple meltdowns would look like. On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:03 AM, B Smith wrote: > Some of the plants would continue to operate for a while but if the grids > go down

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-17 Thread Tracey de Morsella
That's why seeds was on my list after books -Original Message- From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of B Smith Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 2:43 PM To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? We'd have to

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
ahoogroups.com, "Tracey de Morsella" > wrote: > > > > Well you took Buckingham Palace first thing and you love books, so you > know you are on team Scifi! > > > > > > > > From: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scifino...@yahoogroups.com] On >

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Johnson
content/life_after_people/about-the-series - Original Message - From: "B Smith" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? Actually modern dairy cows are fed mixed ration

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread George Arterberry
I think America would return to its basic self. Do you remain in the vast tombstones of the cities or flee to the country-side? From: B Smith To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, February 19, 2010 1:19:19 PM Subject: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?   I

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
As much as I'd hate to, I'd go to the countryside. (City kid, born and bred.) I suddenly have a thought. What happens to those who need daily meds? I'm in that number and, without a pharmacy to dispense... guess I'd have to stage a few break-ins before departing.

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
ey fade into oblivion. > > Fascinating stuff. > http://www.history.com/content/life_after_people/about-the-series > > > > - Original Message - > From: "B Smith" > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 12:11:39 PM GMT -05:00 US

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:33:20 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I think that the things would eventually go back to how they were before

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
ayers, who in > bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik > > > > > -- > To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com > From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 01:33:20 -08

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
outube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:08:11 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? I saw on the news that there were bears living in abandoned homes in Detroit

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
problem. > > > > > > We'd have to make sure we'd have enough self pollinating > non-genetically > > > modified varieties of plants to make 2nd generation agriculture > effective. > > > All these wonderful GMO crops don't breed true

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
groups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:12:29 -0800 Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? We have a lot of organic farmers in California so that's what I was thinking of when I wrote that post. There is an organic d

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Mr. Worf
> From: hellomahog...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 13:12:29 -0800 > > Subject: Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors? > > > We have a lot of organic farmers in California so that's what I was > thinking of when I wrote that post. There is an organic dairy farm only &

RE: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Martin Baxter
a stage and all the people merely players, who in bloody hell hired the director?" -- Charles L Grant http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQUxw9aUVik To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com From: hellomahog...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2010 14:08:58 -0800 Subject: Re: [

Re: [scifinoir2] Re: Survivors?

2010-02-19 Thread Keith Johnson
right, but Life After People's premise is that *all* humanity dies, not a single man or woman left - Original Message - From: "B Smith" To: scifinoir2@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, February 19, 2010 1:19:19 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [scifinoir2