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happened in the past).
I spend some time doing exactly that for SQLite, for which we now have full
support. PostgreSQL might however be a bit more tricky.
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subclass, ie the SQL Store?
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Hey all,
I'll be branching off SMW 1.9 from master very soon. If you are aware of
any open blockers for 1.9, please list them here [0].
[0] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=41842
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Latest dev code no longer contains the old store. So 1.9 will not support
it. Your extension ought to use SMWs storage layer so it is not dependent
on a specific version of some store implementation.
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On 25 Mar, 2013 10:06 AM, Samuel Lampa samuel.la...@gmail.com wrote:
at that a while
back though this has not gone into the code base yet AFAIK.
If I replace all my arraymaps with {{#ask: [[{{PAGENAME}}]]'s
I'm not sure what your arraymap approach actually looks like so cannot
answer this.
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''not to see Gerrit at all
What is your main motivation for desiring this? (There are a pile of
plausible ones ;p)
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with older MW versions?,
to which the answer is, yes, most of the time. There are some people
running latest SMW dev together with stable MW releases.
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Why are you trying to fetch more information from the store in your result
format? Normally a result format ought to work given just a query result
object. Also, why are you making your result format dependent on Semantic
Forms? That seems very strange.
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procedural
code requiring you to make tight coupling to it and use global state. We
have an item for this on the roadmap:
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true. Changing this has been discussed quite a bit recently,
though no work in that direction has happened yet.
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was written in SMW.
And why it doesn't properly localise date values based on current user
language?
AFAIK dates are localized. If you are running into some issue or have a
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* A number of parameters, some of which affect the query, most of which are
for post-query processing
So I am a bit surprised to find that the SMWDescription base class holds an
array of print requests.
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If smwgUseCategoryHierarchy is behaving defective for you, please open a
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SQLite support is now again at a point where SMW mostly
works.
Thanks to Hashar for making this work :)
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available for almost a year at the point of release. Any objections? If
not, I'll update the roadmap [0].
[0] https://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Roadmap#SMW_1.9
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Interesting. How does that work?
Use the source, Markus... :)
https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-SemanticResultFormats/blob/master/formats/math/SRF_Math.php#L83
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keeping the printer. After all, it's in SRF and
can easily be disabled. And it has not been causing serious problems
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then this, but it's the same idea.
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Hey Neill,
I'm guessing this is because of the [[Docinfo status::effective]] condition
which is there to only have things show that are in the latest release.
Since SRF 1.8 has not been released yet, it's not shwoing on that page for
now.
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Hey,
Great - looks good! :)
Don't forget your type hints though:
http://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/w/index.php?title=SMW_Hooks%2FsmwBrowseActiondiff=24268oldid=24259
If the examples don't have them , new devs are very unlikely to use them
either.
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Another useful thing that can be done is hosting such extensions on
Gerrit[3] so it could use the i18n
for free and get more developers' attention as well.
Definitely! :) The Semantic Extra Special Properties extension you linked
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not the issue, you need to provide the full stack trace (the
various locations and SMW extensions, depending on which are enabled) for
people to figure out what's going on :)
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Did you see http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tooltip ?
MWJames made some neat improvements to the tooltip stuff that will be in
the upcoming 1.8 release :)
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Hey,
AFAIK if a normal property shows up on Special:Browse it should also show
in the factbox. If you're setting it programatically you will need to wait
until the cache of the page gets invalidated before the factbox updates, or
invalidate the cache yourself.
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, which is
used by Semantic Watchlist, which has such additional tables. You have to
make your own diffs to see what changed though, which is what I guess you
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[0] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Resource_loader
[1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/gitweb?p=mediawiki/extensions/Maps.git
[2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Git
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Right - I will quickly poke at this soonish then. Docs will be here
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we'll have to hold into account the affected properties anyway, making the
just store all properties approach not simpler to implement.
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Hey,
James - thanks for reporting this. Can you file a bug in bugzilla if you
have not already done so? :)
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caches results for inline queries
So these two caching solutions can live happily next to each other. Once
the new one has been implemented I suggest disabling the current one for
inline queries, but keeping it for all the rest.
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* This has nothing to do with transclusion of pages
* This definitely requires code to work
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We now have a base class for result printer tests.
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Writing_result_printers#Writing_tests
So when creating a new format, please do the little effort to add tests for
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not be obvious).
And this only occurred to me now, but the WMF has a usability policy
discouraging use of hover-only features, as they do not work on most mobile
devices. Not sure how to address this issue here though.
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association with source text for this?
What are you trying to create that needs this information?
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have this stuff in SMW itself, which ought to not take very long, as we
need it for some performance improvements.
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For the formats we have nice internationalized names, we do not have such
names or labels for parameters (yet), only their canonical system names.
Using the descriptions seems like a bad idea as they are meant to describe
the parameter, not to identify it.
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Hey,
but class SMWQueryUI alone has 1818 ( + class SMWQueryCreatorPage 264 +
class SMWQueryUIHelper 589).
huh?! I wonder how that happened...
In that case, I'm +1'ing your proposal :)
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script that does various queries to gerrit. All of those you
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to require 5.4, as very few people
are actually running this already. Maybe in a year or so. I agree that I'd
be nice if we could use the new features in 5.4, but I've not seen any
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facilitated by it.
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the same.
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it, and no one complained about that either. So do you have
any specific reason for not using it outweighing the advantages? :)
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Hey,
I discussed using PHP namespaces a while back with Markus and Nischay and
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Hey,
I'm not aware of any issues with this code - and it's being used by SMW
itself quite a bit, so ought to be working :)
Can you share the code you're writing? That'll make it a lot easier to
figure out what's going on.
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* Semantic Tasks
* Semantic Drilldown
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* and others
Anyone against such a change? Suggestions?
in any case, we already have a lot of upcoming stuff for SMW 1.8, so if we
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Hey,
Are you suggesting moving all SMW extensions to single repo (on WMF or
elsewhere) in addition to the current repos or also deprecating the
current repositories?
Moving all of the code into the current SMW repo and deprecating the others.
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for additional polishing work after the release.
Anyone objections against that date?
I will be releasing new versions of several other extensions around the
same time, including Semantic Result Formats 1.8, Validator 0.5, Maps 2.0
and Semantic Maps 2.0.
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for performance reasons, so it'll look different
in the near future.
- Do you know a parser-funktion of object parser or another object which
will turn wiki-text into HTML-markup?
You're better of asking this on the wikitech mailing list :)
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properties. This way you could do stuff like querying all the points
in a polygon that have a latitude more then x. This requires some more
thought I think - anyone more thoughts on this?
[0] http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Subobject
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Looks like the problem is not with SMWAdmin at all but with the deployment
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It is posible to filter based on the number of categories that a page
belong ?
This can not be done out of the box, and I can't think of any way to do it
without actually extending SMW itself either.
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installation instructions can be found on the SMW wiki:
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Installation_1.7.1
A slightly more extensive overview of this release can be found here:
http://semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki_1.7.1
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Having all the docs inline in some specific format that can easily be
parsed and then turned into docs is an interesting idea, but I'm wondering
if this makes sense to do if MW core does not do it.
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more then what's
there. It's nice to have this page, but there probably should not be much
more on it, since you can just point to the MW one. Esp since SMW does not
have any real JS framework at this point :)
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Hey James,
Great work :)
I merged your patch, confirmed it worked and committed it in
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:Code/MediaWiki/111953
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Jeroen De Dauw
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Hey Peter,
I noticed that the wiki you linked to is still running SMW 1.4.x, which is
over 2 years old. This made me wonder: what are the requirements (inc
compatibility) for PSMW?
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