Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-21 Thread Chris Burns
Tedd: Please don't let one person's opinion affect your postings. As many people have stated, most of us have learned a great deal on this forum. If someone doesn't want to read a certain person's posts, let them use their DELETE key. If I happen to decide I'm not interested in a FitChip topic

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-21 Thread Lloyd Hackman
nt: Friday, September 20, 2002 11:36 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Arnie, since I blocked out all massages from Lloyd I only get to read his lie and half truths through others.    Arnie, just bear with it because pretty so

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-21 Thread Childers, Tedd A
From: Lloyd Hackman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Tedd It relates to a 5" clamp length with a grip. Your numbers below look good. You might try a little stiffer wood but long irons lo

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-20 Thread Richard Kennedy
olf Club Repair Equipment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, September 20, 2002 7:18:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency  In a message

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-20 Thread tflan
  Now wait just a minute here. Sex the first time wasn't that good? Well I'll tell ya loud and clear. It was perhaps the most enjoyable 2 or 3 seconds of my life. TFlan     Even sex the first time wasn't that good.  You have to practice, practice, practice. Stroke away!

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-20 Thread Arniesclubs
In a message dated 9/20/02 5:51:33 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you keep stroking the data you will eventually convince yourself that you have it right- until next time! But why didn't it come out right the first time? Even sex the first time wasn't that good.  You hav

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-20 Thread Lloyd Hackman
One change in 4 years based on comparison data with another instrumented system is hardly stroking the data.   llhack - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:28 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-19 Thread Ralph Patton
I have to agree with Al on this one. Though I am an infrequent contributor, I do read all posts (grammar corrections excepted!) - well, at least until a subject gets beat to oblivion and back. Then the delete key works just fine. Write on... Ralph --- Al Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ar

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-19 Thread Childers, Tedd A
- From: Lloyd Hackman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 9:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Tedd It relates to a 5" clamp length with a grip. Your numbers below look good. You might try a little stiffer wood but long irons

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-19 Thread Lloyd Hackman
From: "Childers, Tedd A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2002 8:03 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency > Lloyd, > > Thanks for the reminder about the revised data, which you had mentioned to > me previously via

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-19 Thread Childers, Tedd A
airway woods. If I do, I'll report back with the results. Tedd -Original Message- From: Lloyd Hackman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Tedd I thought I had sent you a revised f

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Al Taylor
ou really understand in your post are "OLD"  "FOGGY"   But I can tell you "MELLOW" is not one of them.     RK   Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday,

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Al Taylor
at you really understand in your post are "OLD"  "FOGGY"   But I can tell you "MELLOW" is not one of them.     RK   Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednes

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Richard Kennedy
I can tell you "MELLOW" is not one of them.     RK   Manufacturer's of World Class Golf Club Repair Equipment [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---Original Message---   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, September 18, 2002

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Al Taylor
Arnie, I am using your post merely out of convenience.  I too have had some serious arguments with Lloyd about his device.  I even invited Lloyd, a few years ago, to go away with his nonsense.  I am still not convinced it works as advertised.  But, in the scheme of things, his comments are no less

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Richard Kennedy
52:16 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency  Why don't you guys fight the Fit Chip battle via private e-mail?  Every once in a while we spend 2 weeks or so with the Fit Chip and foes. I really don't give a chip! I'm having my fit!  

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Fjbold1
In a message dated 9/18/2002 6:50:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why don't you guys fight the Fit Chip battle via private e-mail?  Every once in a while we spend 2 weeks or so with the Fit Chip and foes. I really don't give a chip! I'm having my fit! If you keep stroking

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Barrette Bob
My sentiments exactly, I don't give a chip either. Bob    [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why don't you guys fight the Fit Chip battle via private e-mail?  Every once in a while we spend 2 weeks or so with the Fit Chip and foes. I really don't give a chip! I'm having my fit! I only golf on days that end w

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread bob boone
Right on—Thanks for saying it Arnie!!!   -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency   Why don't you guys

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Arniesclubs
Why don't you guys fight the Fit Chip battle via private e-mail?  Every once in a while we spend 2 weeks or so with the Fit Chip and foes. I really don't give a chip! I'm having my fit!

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Lloyd Hackman
FitChip's. - Original Message - From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:59 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency > - Original Message - > From: Lloyd Hackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Message - From: "Childers, Tedd A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 8:21 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency > Dave, > > As you know, I also tried the FitChip and was not satisfied with the fitting > recom

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-18 Thread Childers, Tedd A
in a loss of distance, with no gain in accuracy. Just my experience for what its worth. Tedd -Original Message- From: Dave Tutelman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency - Original Me

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-17 Thread Dave Tutelman
- Original Message - From: Lloyd Hackman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:07 AM Lloyd>>>But the same frequency in either shaft will match the players swing frequency. Bernie>> Are you referring to frequency analysis as a fitting tool with your timing chip? Only i

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-07 Thread Bernie Baymiller
Lloyd,   It's late and I've been watching a lot of football, but...   >If all you want to do is match the same shaft to get a matched set fine.   yes, that's what I was saying. After I find a shaft and slope that works for the player, I want to match his set as accurately as I canand the

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-07 Thread Lloyd Hackman
t: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Lloyd,   > Frequency is the most accurate measure of shaft flexural performance.   I guess it depends on what you are using the frequency to do. My Neufinder 2 measures shaft deflection in .000, and gets repeatable readings within .002

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-06 Thread Childers, Tedd A
PROTECTED]Subject: Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Comments Below ***   llhack - Original Message - From: Childers, Tedd A To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: History of

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-06 Thread Bernie Baymiller
Lloyd,   > Frequency is the most accurate measure of shaft flexural performance.   I guess it depends on what you are using the frequency to do. My Neufinder 2 measures shaft deflection in .000, and gets repeatable readings within .002...about half a cpm, if Dan did his math correctly. In ad

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-06 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Comments Below ***   llhack - Original Message - From: Childers, Tedd A To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, September 06, 2002 10:00 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency Peter,   You are incorrect in your understanding of frequenc

RE: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-06 Thread Childers, Tedd A
Peter,   You are incorrect in your understanding of frequency as it is related to golf club making.  The frequency one measures for a golf club using a frequency analyzer is NOT the resonance frequency of the shaft, but is rather a measure of the time it takes the shaft to complete one compl

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-05 Thread Lloyd Hackman
Peter T   I built my first frequency meter in 1972 and still use it, except that I have changed the clamp length to the more standard 5" instead of the original 8" I used. By knowing the frequency of the first mode of vibration of the golf club you can relate the time of one quarter of a cycl

Re: ShopTalk: History of Frequency

2002-09-05 Thread Bernie Baymiller
PT,   I'm no historian on this subject, but frequency is certainly a simple way to compare stiffness of one shaft with another. Ed Bozman was one of the first to use a frequency meter on this forum, and had some interesting background on it...but he left the forum about 4 years ago. Maybe som