Re: CSTo Janis

2002-04-16 Thread Catherine Creel
John Reeder wrote: Grey also comes with age. Hmmm...I'm trying to recall how many grey people I see who are less than 80 years old...okay, I know the answer. It's zero. Allopathic doctors have a way of discounting what a person is saying if it does not fall within their realm of experience,

Re: CSTo Janis

2002-04-16 Thread Catherine Creel
Marshall wrote: I believe he is talking about hair. LOL, Marshall. Somehow I missed that. Thanks. Is that what you were talking about, John? Regards, Catherine -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Catherine Creel
Hi Janis, You said: Don't worry guys shortly I will be off this list because it is starting to depress me badly all the hokey ideas like CS does not differentiate between them, but does differentiate between the different medias, so the intestinal bacteria are safe. Your concern has some

CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Nicola Kay
Hi I just read Janis¹ post and have some questions: Is ionic silver different from colloidal silver? I was at a website last night that showed various kinds of Œbugs¹ and Œparasites¹ in and on our bodies and assume that these are the bugs that cs kills. But in the description of some of them,

CSTo Janis

2002-04-16 Thread Nicola Kay
Hi Janis, Well, you took care of your Lyme problem; now if you could only get people to stop being rude and ignorant, life would be pleasant. When people ask you about it you could always tell them it¹s because you are a blueblood ­ of royal descent, seriously. It doesn¹t detract from their

Re: CSColloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-16 Thread Ronen Yehiav
RE: CSColloidal vs silver ionsDear Bob, I was wandering... I know that colloidal silver particles are a bunch of several hundreds to several thousands of silver atoms, in their metallic form. Ionic compounds contain only ONE particle of silver, and some derivative of an acid, such as the nitrate

Re: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
I'm not sure what information you're following in choosing to mix a saline solution and CS in the same little spritzer, you might end up making a fair amount of silver chloride before it ever got out of the bottle; prob'ly not the way to go. The silver chloride will end up as white powder on the

Re: CSTo Janis

2002-04-16 Thread Sinaj101
In a message dated 4/16/2002 1:48:46 AM Central Daylight Time, n...@shaw.ca writes: They may even become jealous or envious and want what you have. Just an idea. There are ways of turning it into a positive experience rather than a negative one. Jealousy is what some at work have told

Re: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Bobbye Stegen
Hi Malcolm, Not sure where I read about the mixture of saline and CS. I thought I read on this board, maybe another one, to get a bottle of saline nose spray from WalMart, empty half, and fill the rest of the bottle with the CS for sinus infection. OK, so I'll scrap that idea. This is a lot to

Re: CSColloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-16 Thread Kevin Nolan
RE: CSColloidal vs silver ionsBob Bartell wrote: Dear Bobbye and all other novices. Colloidal silver made by the electrolysis method, which is what we all use here on this list, is, for all practical purposes, harmless and will not cause the discoloration of the skin (argyria). The particles

Re: CSCSWhat have I made?

2002-04-16 Thread Kevin Nolan
Marlene - your interesting experiment seems to provide evidence that silver ascorbate is fairly insoluble, similar to silver chloride. I assume your colloidal silver formula is homemade stuff electrolysed with LVDC? regards, Kevin Nolan - Original Message - From: Marlene Hanson

RE: CSTo Janis

2002-04-16 Thread John Reeder
Grey also comes with age. -Original Message- From: sinaj...@aol.com [mailto:sinaj...@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 5:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTo Janis In a message dated 4/16/2002 1:48:46 AM Central Daylight Time, n...@shaw.ca writes:

Re: CSColloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-16 Thread Ronen Yehiav
RE: CSColloidal vs silver ionsSo, what are the sure - fire ways to produce only silver colloids? Ronen. - Original Message - From: Kevin Nolan To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: Re: CSColloidal vs silver ions Bob Bartell wrote:

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Nicola Kay wrote: Hi I just read Janis’ post and have some questions: Is ionic silver different from colloidal silver? I was at a website last night that showed various kinds of ‘bugs’ and ‘parasites’ in and on our bodies and assume that these are the bugs that cs kills. But in the

RE: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Current belief for many here is that the NaCl will react only with monatomic Ag ions; the true sol should remain as silver particles. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: Bobbye Stegen [mailto:bwste...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 6:38 AM To:

Re: CSCSWhat have I made?

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
This might shed some light on the subject. At appears that silver ascorbate very readily grows crystals. http://www.educ.cc.keio.ac.jp/~ub06272/ICCGposter.ppt Marshall Kevin Nolan wrote: Marlene - your interesting experiment seems to provide evidence that silver ascorbate is fairly

Re: CSTo Janis

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
I believe he is talking about hair. Marshall Catherine Creel wrote: John Reeder wrote: Grey also comes with age. Hmmm...I'm trying to recall how many grey people I see who are less than 80 years old...okay, I know the answer. It's zero. Allopathic doctors have a way of discounting

RE: CSCSWhat have I made?

2002-04-16 Thread Marlene Hanson
Hi Bob, I was using a smidgon of Vitamin C Ascorbic acid and 3 9 volt batteries in 1 quart of distilled boiling water. It is quite milky looking. When the red lazer is shined through it it casts a pink glow to the whole jar. I would like to safely use it for something. I would like to know

Re: CSArthritis

2002-04-16 Thread Duncan Crow
Hi Bob; Yeah that cancer report was strange. I think I'd watch certain hormone-dependent cancers but the doctor on the video http://real20.audiovideoweb.com:554/ramgen/avbb1006/reverse.rm says that raising HGH levels slows the growth of cancers by increasing cellular life-span. Although if ya

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Sinaj101
In a message dated 4/16/2002 10:17:46 AM Central Daylight Time, mdud...@execonn.com writes: THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS GOOD VS BAD bugs! It has more to do with where they are than what they are. CS does not differentiate between them, but does differentiate between the different medias,

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Janis wrote, You said: Don't worry guys shortly I will be off this list because it is starting to depress me badly all the hokey ideas like CS does not differentiate between them, but does differentiate between the different medias, so the intestinal bacteria are safe. What is hokey

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread John Reeder
Last year I had a prostrate infection and I was using CS and the Zapper, big time. I noticed minor problems with food digestion until I started using yogurt, etc. John -- Original Message -- From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com Reply-To:

Re: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Interesting! But; ...once the impossible has been eliminated, whatever remains, however improbable, ... or words to that effect g Darn! Sir Arthur has escaped the bookshelf again. It seems clear (?) that ionic reactions are indeed dependent on ions, however the solubility of small charged

Re: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Malcolm Stebbins wrote: Interesting! But; ...once the impossible has been eliminated, whatever remains, however improbable, ... or words to that effect g Darn! Sir Arthur has escaped the bookshelf again. It seems clear (?) that ionic reactions are indeed dependent on ions, however the

CSArgyria, misc posts

2002-04-16 Thread Terry Chamberlin
This is in response to several postings. Wayne said, “My voltage is about 1/2 as much, 52 VDC vs your 110 VDC. The volume is 60 oz or about 1/2 gallon. If my starter and water was the same as yours, then the one hour should give me about the same ppm, it would appear. Is this logic flawed, or is

CSCS Starter????

2002-04-16 Thread Maxine Wilton
I AM SEEING MESSAGES HERE ABOUT USING A STARTER FOR MAKING A JAR OF CS. Are you supose to use a starter every time you make a new jar of CS? IS the statrter supose to be a cup of CS that you have made??? Explain this and what happens if you dont use a starter??? What is the end

Re: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Seems like a good approach, are there questions re: the activity series in this experiment? could one actively electroplate plate onto - well, I dunno, - titanium for instance? I know, I should try it myself and find out but I'm truly up to my ankles head-first trying to get out of here and to

CSNewbie

2002-04-16 Thread Sandra D
Hi All, I'm new to the list. I started making my own CS in October 01, this was the first winter in years I did not have bronchitis. Anyone who has had bronchitis knows the instant it startsI wont describe the soggy details :), a few sips of CS over a couple of days and my symptoms

Re: CSArgyria, misc posts

2002-04-16 Thread Sinaj101
In a message dated 4/16/2002 3:46:21 PM Central Daylight Time, tcj...@yahoo.ca writes: I have a very difficult time believing someone has argyria from a modest or reasonable quantity of colloidal silver, even silver compounds such as Mild Silver Protein. Every other case of argyria on

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Noel White
Most bacteria are in the large intestine. When you drink CS its absorbed in the small gut to blood stream. If you are still quesy about this , then take your CS sublingual and by pass the gut. Noel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit

Re: CSCS Starter????

2002-04-16 Thread Dean T. Miller
Hi Maxine, On Tue, 16 Apr 2002 13:44:12 -0700, Maxine Wilton mm...@sprynet.com wrote: I AM SEEING MESSAGES HERE ABOUT USING A STARTER FOR MAKING A JAR OF CS. Are you supose to use a starter every time you make a new jar of CS? No, there is no need for a starter. IS the statrter supose to

CSDouche

2002-04-16 Thread mary
I have searched the archives but can't find the strength of CS to use for douching for thrush. I already have 5PPM 30PPM and can dilute it if needed but to what strength? How many days can it be used for? Mary -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread AVRA / Jason
Hi all, If the bacterial balance in the body is good to start with, one really has no concern about overly disturbing it without taking very high amounts of CS. This is only common sense. If the bacterial balance is disturbed, then a positive action was needed regardless of the use of colloidal

CSRe[2]: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Solar
Hello Marshall, Tuesday, April 16, 2002, 2:32:06 PM, you wrote: MD What is hokey about it? Marshall, Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of what you are saying would agree that there is NOTHING hokey about the statements you made. What IS hokey is.. Janis still has NOT

Re: CSCS Starter????

2002-04-16 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
All this brings a question to my mind; what about that first 15 minutes or half-hour? What I mean is, if the particle size is largely governed by the current rate, so that smaller particles are generated at lower currents, isn't that first period of time generating the smallest and supposedly

RE: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Hi Malcom, What is your take on the desirability of ionic silver on infected mucosae? From what I have seen here, both will work; some will make a case that the particles are less likely to react with other substances and get lodged in the skin. Some will make a case that the ions work better.

Re: CSRe[2]: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread sylvie hargraft
I have been following this tread and I'm becoming concerned that people are starting to come up with rather unfair comments. She has said in her first message that she had taken large amounts of cs. I don't need we need a complete confession from her. Is anybody looking for statistic datas?

Re: CSNewbie

2002-04-16 Thread James Allison
My Mom is (was?) type ][ as well. Not sure of the meds she was on, but anyway, she started taking an ounce a day of low voltage direct current colloidal silver at 5ppm, and after a year and a half of colloidal silver, her doc took her off the meds. She has a lot of other things that CS has

Re: CSCS Starter????

2002-04-16 Thread Ronen Yehiav
If your using starter, and you reach higher current, it DOES NOT mean you're getting more colloidal Silver - you may be just electrolyzing the starter, or the water... Ronen. - Original Message - From: Dean T. Miller dtmil...@midiowa.net To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Tuesday, April

Re: CSNewbie

2002-04-16 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Hi All, Hi and Welcome!! I`m Marshalee, an oldie but goodie around here. I'm new to the list. I started making my own CS in October 01, this was the first winter in years I did not have bronchitis. Anyone who has had bronchitis knows the instant it startsI wont describe the soggy

Re: CSColloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-16 Thread Kevin Nolan
RE: CSColloidal vs silver ionsHello Ronen (not Konan, right! :)), By now you will have read Terry Chamberlain's post and feeling calmer no doubt. Sorry if I was giving you the impression that ionic silver is dangerous per se. Not so. As you

Re: CSArgyria and Beneficial Bugs

2002-04-16 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Sorry, but the good bugs don`t kill the bad bugs in an aquarium. The biological filter works by the bacteria (neither good nor bad) converting nitrates from fish poo and uneated Oops, I meant uneaten... :o)

Re: CSHVAC vs LVDC CS making

2002-04-16 Thread Richard
How long do you run the neon transformer for 5 ppm? Is there any color change Richard Marshall Dudley wrote: The most widely used method uses Neon Sign Transformers, 12 or 15 KV, and places the silver electrodes just above the water's surface, so that the voltage pulls the water up and

Re: CSMilk

2002-04-16 Thread Richard
I make butter from whole milk, and the buttermilk will sour quickly, so to delay that I have had great success in adding 8-10 drops of hydrogen peroxide (35%) and a tablespoon of CS. Get a spray bottle and spray it on your vegies (anything that you put back in the fridge) to retard spoilage

Re: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Jonathan B. Britten
If I understood Frank Key's posting correctly, one might do well deliberately to precipitate the silver chloride and then pour off the pure colloidal silver remaining. I am not a chemist and do not know whether or not I understood this correctly.If so, Mr. Key has given us some very

Re: CSH2O2 in CS

2002-04-16 Thread Richard
I found this on the web regarding a method of testing CS using Hydrogen Peroxide: The best product contains no metallic silver and a very simple test for metallic silver is to add some hydrogen peroxide to the solution. For a valid test, pour a few spoons of your colloidal silver into a new

Re: CSColloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Kevin Nolan wrote: Hello Ronen (not Konan, right! :)),By now you will have read Terry Chamberlain's post and feeling calmer no doubt. Sorry if I was giving you the impression that ionic silver is dangerous per se. Not so. As you will find,

Re: CSHVAC vs LVDC CS making

2002-04-16 Thread Marshall Dudley
Using the method I have outlined that we use in earlier posts, I generate 3.5 gallons of 5 ppm CS per hour with 10KV and 100 mA (which is 4 standard or 2 high current neon sign transformers in parallel). Marshall Richard wrote: How long do you run the neon transformer for 5 ppm? Is there

CSCS Salve

2002-04-16 Thread Alarmsrvcs
Hello: I am a newbie. I would like to know if anyone has ever made a CS salve. If so how do you do it, and where do you by the items to do it. Mike, Sr.

CSMaking Colloidal Gold

2002-04-16 Thread Richard
Could someone share specific method of making CGold. The following is all that I have gleaned off this list-serve so far: You can tell CG by its color. It starts out a very pale lavender and increase to red with ppm. Pale lavendar is how many PPM? Red? Just looking for rough estimates. I

RE: CSColloidal vs silver ions

2002-04-16 Thread Bob Bartell
OK Kevin and others! Lets stop posturing with this pseudo science. Everyone of you knows that Argyria is caused by LARGE particles of silver compounds .. Not ions! Not Electro-Colloidal Silver ions or particles!. The human cells treat anything that is not a nutrient or cannot be converted

RE: CSCSWhat have I made?

2002-04-16 Thread Bob Bartell
It would be a little hard to know exactly what you've got because most Vitamin C Ascorbic Acid is sold in wafer or tablet form that contains fillers and god alone knows what they are using at any given time. I can appreciate your thinking -- a combination may be a better synergistic product.

RE: CSArthritis

2002-04-16 Thread Bob Bartell
Hi Duncan, Also seems to be a lot of interest lately in Europe and now in the US re: high potency liquid CoQ10 in gel caps. Rave reviews! Good synergistic properties in most treatment modalities. Namaste: Bob Bartell -Original Message- From: Duncan Crow [mailto:duncanc...@shaw.ca]

RE: CSCSNebulizing CS

2002-04-16 Thread Bob Bartell
Rotfl! James, you are my kind of Pediatrician! Namaste: Bob Bartell -Original Message- From: Malcolm Stebbins [mailto:s...@asis.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2002 3:33 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSCSNebulizing CS Interesting! But; ...once the impossible has been