Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Gary Green
On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 09:40 AM, John Reeder wrote: The story is hard to believe as written. I have no problems with the cs taking care of the situation, but not the temperatures (you die at 105). Temps usually spike and can go quite high, especially in children, without killing them.

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Noel White
CS may destroy the botulism anaerobic bacteria, But would have no effect on the botulism toxin the bacteria have produced and released. Noel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi good listers, John Reeder wrote: Check the link at: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/botulism_g.htm The story is hard to believe as written. I have no problems with the cs taking care of the situation, but not the temperatures (you die at 105). Not hardly. Where do you get such BS.

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi all, It seems that John has lots of things to say. But he has never done any of it. Bout time he gave us the details of his usage and results. Lets hear his verifiable stories of how good CS has worked for him personally. Put your life on the line or shut up. How I hate bull shitters!!

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi all, I will take this moment to apologize to the membership. John has totally peed me off with his uninformed comments and the harm he has done to the good people on this list who are looking for help. For someone like him to come along and criticize our people , and just give endless lists

Re: CSAmalgam and Colloidal Silver

2002-06-07 Thread Ode Coyote
If anything, CS should stablize any mercury from amalgum that's still in your mouth. I have a lot of fillings and none of them are leaking anymore since using CS as a mouth wash. Ken At 11:00 PM 6/6/02 +0200, you wrote: Hello, Silver-listers, A friend of mine has Lyme -- seriously chronic,

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Ode Coyote
I must be dead then 'cause I've hit 106 a few times. Ken At 06:40 PM 6/6/02 -0700, you wrote: Check the link at: http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dbmd/diseaseinfo/botulism_g.htm The story is hard to believe as written. I have no problems with the cs taking care of the situation, but not the

Re: CSscalp problems itching

2002-06-07 Thread Jennifer Popp
I had a couple of stops on my scalp that were EXTREMELY itchy. I had tried everything to get rid of whatever was there (never had a dx), from Neem, Tea Tree Oil, Scalpicin, everything. Then I was in Florida and bought a bottle of CS. I applied some to the spots one night. Nothing. I was

CS[Listowner] All it takes...

2002-06-07 Thread M. G. Devour
All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. -- Edmund Burke Bob, you're feeling irascible today? Bob Lee writes: Not hardly. Where do you get such BS. Are you calling me a lier.!! You need to get your head out of your ass.

Re: CS3r batch of cs

2002-06-07 Thread Jennifer Popp
I believe there would be different qualities of bone meal. Anything manufactured for livestock consumption would be simply from a rendered product. And I believe bone meal for the garden is of the same variety. The bone meal for human consumption and some products for our companion animals is a

CSLets be nice/ courtious/conciderat

2002-06-07 Thread Maxine Wilton
Ah, all you nice people out there, I know mean well so lets watch the language with the objectional adjectives etc and be nice with our negative comments. Nobody likes everybody's what they think and say and you can't please all all the time. I enjoy any imfo and listen and read most till I

RE: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
How can you sate You need to get your head out of your ass and then Bless you, Bob Lee, they don't seem to go together. I sent your story to a doctor (M.D.) friend who believes in alternative means for health and healing and he stated These guys have no clue about botulismcheck this out?

RE: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Dear Mr Lee, Seemingly, you haven't been reading all of the posts (selective reading), because I have posted my own limited experiences with both cs and the zapper (extensively). I don't have a lot to post about personal healing, because I remain in reasonably good health at the age of 64 (maybe

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hi Gary; I suspect the infection may be 'cooking' in the eustachian - warm, wet, relatively undisturbed, 'specially in those of us with narrow ones and/or sinus trouble. Perhaps dropping liquid into the outer ear stimulates the eustachian to open or dry up a bit? Gary Green wrote: On Tuesday,

RE: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Hello all, Apparently, Mr Lee has a problem. I haven't stated anything negative about cs, I am a firm believer in its ability to heal and to keep one healthy. I have experiences with cs healing and have stated them on this forum in the past (although, I am a relatively new member). I and my

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Malcolm Stebbins
Hi Beth; I believbe there are some good posts and references to sites that give instructions for making your own generator, all located in the archives which you can get to with the link posted at the bottom. Several folks on the list are real experts on the subject, as you read the posts you'll

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
John Reeder wrote: I think the problem is that what they were poisoned with was NOT botulism. I have no doubt of that, botulism cannot even grow in meat that is not totally sealed from the air, and would almost certainly caused very quick death. What they got was almost certainly salmonella, or

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Got to go, county folks are coming to check out potential fire ants on the property. John Do you think CS in sugar water would kill fire ants? Or at least some Nutrasweet.? Marshalee

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Marshalee Hallett
Also, I would like more info on making CS. Is there a website to help me out. I am clueless about it and am new to this board. Thanks. Beth Brawn Dear Beth, Here are the directions I give to new folks, maybe they`ll help you, too! Love, Marshalee Here`s how to make Colloidal

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread bonnie schmidlkofer
Do you think CS in sugar water would kill fire ants? Or at least some Nutrasweet. I've fed my fire ants aspartame, and it slowed them down severely. Their nests tend to be very large, I probably didn't give them enough to do them all in. That reminds me, I'm going to go and give them another

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Diane
okay you two... get over it. I am new to the list...and very very interested on how this product can help me. I have just bought my first bottle. I have the dental things bad...and even broken ones that I am sure I am full of mercury. I am going ahead and using this...but very interested in

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Either or both might work. Marshall Marshalee Hallett wrote: Got to go, county folks are coming to check out potential fire ants on the property.JohnDo you think CS in sugar water would kill fire ants? Or at least some Nutrasweet.?Marshalee

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread harsha godavari
...err, that should be sonS in law not son in laws :-) Regards Harsha Godavari John Reeder wrote: How can you sate You need to get your head out of your assand then Bless you, Bob Lee, they don't seem to go together.I sent your story to a doctor (M.D.) friend who believes in

RE: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Hello Ken, Sorry, if I have misinformed. My wife told me that we can't stand a temperature of 105 for very long without brain damage - that was my source of information - not expert, but informed. You are right, we do go up to high temperatures at times and aren't dead as a result. My doctor

CS OT point of view

2002-06-07 Thread larry tankersley
Well,guess I've let myself get sucked into this one. The story is hard to believe as written. I have no problems with the cs taking care of the situation, but not the temperatures (you die at 105). John If a statement like that,and then the pronouncement that you die at 105F isn't

RE: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
I agree, great story and I am sure, based in reality. But, I like to pass on these types of stories to my non-cs-believing friends and they jump on any inaccuracies, as my M.D. friend did. I had ptomaine once and looking back, sure could have used cs if it had been available. John -Original

RE: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
That is a good question. It turns out the ants were Argentine ants, so, a degree of relief. The county lady told me that fire ants eat protein. I guess a chunk of meat dosed with cs would be the bait. Worth a try. Trouble is, I don't have any fire ants to try it on. Maybe I'll try the Argentine

RE: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Thanks for the English lesson. When you post on the web, the tendency is to type too fast and not check for accuracy. John -Original Message- From: harsha godavari [mailto:h.godav...@shaw.ca] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 11:31 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re:

RE: CS OT point of view

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
You got it Larry. A soft answer turns away wrath. My 105 degree statement was 'out to lunch', but I was simply repeating one of my responses from others. What I did wrong was send the message regarding the hairy meat to several friends, and got some immediate responses. So I was getting hit from

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread bonnie schmidlkofer
If one were to attempt to correct every grammer or spelling mistake on a list, within one day one would be three weeks behind.. - Original Message - From: John Reeder To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:28 PM Subject: RE: CSRegarding botulism

CSquips while drinking CS with gatorade.

2002-06-07 Thread Maxine Wilton
This message below reminds me of what my dau's dad used to say things like to her when she was uner 12.yrs At 51/2 yrs;; He used to say. Well, are you ready to go do our Christmas SHOPLIFTING when we were going shopping for Xmas. So I and my parents took Elaine and went to a dept store. Dad

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Marshall Dudley
Neutrasweet might work well also since it is also a protein, or at least an amino acid. Marshall John Reeder wrote: That is a good question. It turns out the ants were Argentine ants, so, a degree of relief.The county lady told me that fire ants eat protein. I guess a chunk of meat dosed

CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #406

2002-06-07 Thread songbirdizzy
To: silver-list Subject: Re: CSSome info please? New people come along and think they know it all , without ever doing any experiments of their own, and act like all us old timers didn't ever do anything. Be fore giving us your great advice, tell us how you determined that it was correct or

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread harsha godavari
John: I was just pulling your leg. I make far too many mistakes (trying to type and being a lousy typist) to be unawre of that. No hard feelings ok? Regards Harsha Godavari John Reeder wrote: Thanks for the English lesson. When you post on the web, the tendency is to type too fast

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Jack Dayton
Lady B wrote: THANK YOU to everyone for your excellent info! Now I need to spend quite a bit of time looking through all the info and taking the stuff and see what happens. I have always had sinus and allergy problems and ANY improvement would be thrilling. Hi Beth, about the allergy problems

CScs and ms

2002-06-07 Thread sylvie hargraft
What do you guys know about cs and ms. They are coming to believe that cs is caused by a virus but...??? Sylvie _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx --

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Jack Dayton
Should we really use a capital S at the end of son? :-) Jack From: harsha godavari h.godav...@shaw.ca Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 13:31:07 -0500 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRegarding botulism Resent-From: silver-list@eskimo.com Resent-Date: Fri, 7 Jun

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Jack Dayton
Hi John. I would try soaking pieces of bread rather than meat, it will hold more silver. But it would seem to be a waste of time. unless the ants rely on a form of bacteria in their stomachs for digestion. If that were the case, then they might starve to death with the bacteria dead. Sounds

Re: CScs and ms

2002-06-07 Thread Jack Dayton
From: sylvie hargraft sylviehargr...@hotmail.com What do you guys know about cs and ms. They are coming to believe that cs is caused by a virus but...??? Sylvie, is that you really wanted to say? Jack -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver.

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread CKing001
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 15:39:12 -0400, bonnie schmidlkofer bschm...@ij.net wrote: If one were to attempt to correct every grammer or spelling mistake on a list, within one day one would be three weeks behind.. - Original Message - From: John Reeder To: silver-list@eskimo.com

Re: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #406

2002-06-07 Thread CKing001
On Fri, 7 Jun 2002 14:07:03 -0700 (PDT), songbirdizzy songbirdi...@yahoo.com wrote: So, as a newcomer, if I'm wrong I'm going to get flamed like this? No, thanks. Where I come from, people treat one another with respect--especially newcomers to our list. In my opinion, a list for

Re: CSNewcomers and flaming wars (for Liz)

2002-06-07 Thread Jennifer Popp
Hey Liz, I think I've read your posts on K9Health. Peaches is new to your house right?? Good on you for the wellness check on your signature line. I think those of us who feed raw should be suggesting that more often to everyone. Do you mind if I incorporate that in my signature line as well?

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread CKing001
Diane Because I make my own CS, I have quantities to waste. I have opted to take a prophylactic amount daily of a shot glassful. By swishing in the mouth and gargling briefly before swallowing, I am also treating my gums , teeth, tongue and throat daily. As a result, I notice no tartar

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Jennifer Popp
that is just way too good, Chuck!! Jenn Popp Healthy Paws Bones and Raw Food Diet http://www.healthy-paws.ca - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com | Time for a lite lesson on list behavior again... -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal

Re: CS[Listowner] All it takes...

2002-06-07 Thread Tai-Pan
Hi Mike and all members, My most humble apologies to all, especially John. Yes, sometimes stress overcomes us and then we see what happens. This is not my normal self, thank goodness. :-) Thanks for the reminder Mike, you are so gentle with us when we become remiss. I still bless folks, even the

RE: CSRe: silver-digest Digest V102 #406

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Hello Liz, I am a college teacher too, and I am the one being flamed, but that happens on all lists occasionally. Goes with the turf and if I am not willing to be flamed, then I need to shut up, get off the list, or just lurk. Actually, being flamed gives me an opportunity to practice patience,

RE: CScs and ms

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
It is called the 'cs' virus, the only thing that kills it is more cs grin. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:44 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CScs and ms From: sylvie hargraft

RE: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Re: CSRegarding botulismA Z would be better. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:19 PM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSRegarding botulism Should we really use a capital S at the end of son? :-)

Re: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread Richard Sobe
Hey Chuck, That was just too funny. I hope you don't mind but I'm going to have to share that with my other groups. By the way, you spelled whe. . ., ah never mind. =~)) Richard - Original Message - From: cking...@nycap.rr.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 7:53 PM To:

CSRe CS Strange phenomena

2002-06-07 Thread Harold MacDonald
Since my last post re Smoky CS using my own distilled water,I have run a few tests and here are some of the results.The distiller has put through approx 288 Litres[79+ US gallons]of H2O and the one that was used to make CS[smoky] was [2 litres from 75th gallon] .Tap water here is highly acidic

RE: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread James Osbourne, Holmes
Yawn. James-Osbourne: Holmes -Original Message- From: John Reeder [mailto:jree...@sbcglobal.net] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 9:44 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CSSome info please? Hello all, Apparently, Mr Lee has a problem. I haven't stated anything negative about cs, I

CSDMSO cautions and mixtures

2002-06-07 Thread Reid Harvey
CS Enthusiasts, My 86 year old father had drug resistent bronchitis last year, and I have convinced him to get his hands on some DMSO, something he has just received in the mail. Fortunately he has since embraced CS and is now making it. I'm suggesting he follow the good advice of several on the

RE: CS[Listowner] All it takes...

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Hello Bob, Thank you for the apology, and I ask your forgiveness for the harshness in my posts. I honestly was trying to get answers and meant no harm. My tongue (fingers on keyboard) gets carried away at times. The next time I offend, go ahead an chastise, I need it and need to take a good look

RE: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Re: CSSome info please?Thanks Jack, CS soaked bread for the ants, that will be interesting. I haven't looked up Argentine ants yet, but am heading that way. John -Original Message- From: Jack Dayton [mailto:jack...@harbornet.com] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:30 PM To:

RE: CSRegarding botulism

2002-06-07 Thread John Reeder
Hello Harsha, No hay problema. I enjoy a little leg pulling now and then and, besides, you were right. I try to watch my posting and miss quite a lot of mistakes until after they are already posted (then its too late). I don't teach English at the local community college, my expertise is in

CSover cooking

2002-06-07 Thread MARIANO DELISE
Usually when I make my CS with a HVAC unit it is light amber. The other night I forgot it was plugged i n and before you know it the container had pretty black CS. It measured 30ppm on my Hanna. I diluted it in half with fresh distilled water. It then measured 15ppm and was crystal clear.

Re: CSDMSO cautions and mixtures

2002-06-07 Thread Noel White
It causes irritation gto skin but not to mucus membranes and other non epitheial tissue. Noel -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to:

CSReported but unconfirmed Case of Argyria

2002-06-07 Thread AVRA / Jason
Greetings, all... I wanted to let everyone know that I recently received an authentic appearing email reporting a severe case of cosmetic Argyria developed from using a home brewed colloidal silver. This would be the first case in four years of diligent searching that might possibly be

Re: CScs and ms

2002-06-07 Thread MARIANO DELISE
My MS has been 80% cured. You must be agressive and VERY patient. I drink about 16oz of 10ppm per day. It is a very slow process, but it most certainly works. I have a short journal of my experience with CS MS if anyone wants it. Contact me off list nancym...@prodigy.net - Original

Re: CSSome info please?

2002-06-07 Thread Joseph Fritz
At 10:46 AM 6/7/2002 -0600, you wrote: Got to go, county folks are coming to check out potential fire ants on the property. John Do you think CS in sugar water would kill fire ants? Or at least some Nutrasweet.? Marshalee I used a recipe I got off the list had molasses sugar and yeast