Now that we've hashed out the two competing worldviews of the Co-op and
Dr. Jon, can we end or move this thread to the Off Topic List,
please?
Follow-ups set appropriately.
Be well,
Mike D.
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On Sat, 31 Aug 2002 01:32:03 -0400, Catherine Creel ccr...@maine.rr.com
wrote:
Take a look at any of the sites where current and previously licensed
physicians are listed. You'll never find him.
I wouldn't call what was done on Tracy's list character assassination.
There was a tremendous
Stropheria is a slightly different genus growing mostly in wood. There
are panaeolus cyanescens also in the patties in the Gulf area. I was
hunting psilocybe cubensis. Some days I found one. Other days 80 and 90
pounds of em. We used to boil em down and put the juice 50/50 with beer in
a
That would be my guess. That sodium has to go somewhere when [if?] the
chlorine swaps sides.
I don't think carbonic acid has sodium in it but it could possibly make
sodium carbonate or bicarbonate or something.
Of course, blood has a great deal of carbon dioxide in it...and oxygen.
Silver
So Chuck,
You present us with a message copied from another site by some chap we
don't know. How is this any different from the stuff you take
exception to?
One fact would seem to be consistent however, that the person
purporting to be Dr. Jon Brooks Oncologist, is someone else and is not
a Dr.
Christine,
You are correct in your assumptions, yes you used to little to begin
with, and adding more allowed the reaction to go to completion.
Hydrogen peroxide oxidises metallic silver. That is, it will strip
electrons from silver metal or particles and produce silver ions (Ag+)
and steam.
I really don't know. I've not been to a doctor in 35+ years. I suspect
it was a swollen gland and a good dose of mentally directed niacin from the
shroom did it in. The heat seemed to be both thermal and the prickly kind
gotten from niacin.
It is the brain that directs everything, after
Just to clear up a few things :)
If one does not add extra OH- ions to the mix, then the talk of sodium
hydroxide (Na+ OH-) is redundant.
The sodium ions take no part in the reaction (Ag+ + Cl- = AgCl), and
are called spectator ions.
Sodium ions cannot ionise anything as they are already
A lamb still milking might have a completely differently operating digestive system than a full grown sheep.
If it's near death anyway, no amount of CS will hurt it more.
Ken
At 11:00 AM 8/31/02 -0500, you wrote:
Trem,
I have used CS mixed with milk replica for calves who already had
Yes, it would seem that gold coloured silver sols start at particle
sizes of about 60 - 75nm (0.060 - 0.075 micron), but the data given
does not tell us at what point the yellow colour first appears other
than 38nm (0.038 micron).
If I remember correctly this data seems to be at odds with the
Dear list Here's my OPINION based on the findings about DR. JON
that were posted on our list last time we went through this.
While the report seemed very factual I have no way of KNOWING if
it was true or not [that's why It's only my OPINION.. just what I
THINK,some folks seem to have
Hi Ivan,
The solution now consists of silver ions each having a positive
charge, whereas the particles with which the H2O2 reacted had no
charge at all. Indeed, metallic particles will most likely have a
negative charge, due to the OH- molecules which adsorb
(Stick to the
outside of) the
What a heterotroph is as a classification of microbes. The word
cropped up in a message and someone asked for a definition. I thought
it useful to elaborate or correct the answers that were forthcoming. I
sure you could use it to great effect at your next dinner party or
down the pub.
Don,
No I am not saying that, although it will be much more effective than
metallic CS in the test-tube, and probably when applied externally
also.
There is much contention about the effectiveness ions vs. particles
when taken orally, I tend to favour ions myself and so make that
variety, but it
Well I'm kind of sorry,at least a lot of folks say that about me...
I get the list on Digest so didn't see your request until I went to the
archives,after posting.
Truth is I would have posted anyway, then run off and hid.
I do think this might be one of those grey areas,as I see it being
Yes. All of that has also been my observation. When one experiences a
really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range health
deterioration.
Ibogain. Relatively easy withdrawal from heroin addiction after as
Perhaps the OH is already there. Maybe when one makes the CS, when an
oxygen atom is pulled out at the electrode during electrolysis, the
remaining OH sticks around to balance the silver ion. So when salt is
added, there is a simple reshuffle, with the OH and the Cl swapping partners
so to
Thanks much Barbara. This will most likely give the owner enough confidence to
at least start using it orally.
Trem
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From: Barbara Liles
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: CSSick sheep
Trem,
I have
Sorry Ken. Stropharia Cubensis is exactly the same as Psilocybe Cubensis
and they do not grow on wood. They are coprophilous (dung lovers).
Trem
- Original Message -
From: Ode Coyote coyote...@earthlink.net
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 4:36 AM
Subject:
You do have a good point there. I just did a regression on the silver data
( on line java applet for that is at
http://intrepid.mcs.kent.edu/~blewis/stat/lsq.html ). The linear does not
fit very well, and the quadratic fits pretty well, The cubic fits very well,
but it has a minimum around 25,
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
Yes. All of that has also been my observation. When one experiences a
really clear mind, the fuzz-and-blur of alcohol becomes thick and
distasteful, without even considering the aftereffects and long-range health
deterioration.
Ibogain. Relatively easy
Ah, elementary chemistry. I love it! OK, took about 3 oz of 5 ppm CS, 80%
ionic,
and added a pinch of salt. The solution became slightly milky. Added about an
oz of household ammonia (ammonium hydroxide), and it cleared back up.
Good idea. That seems to confirm the hypothesis that the ionic
The observed color of colloids is mostly determined by particle size only
for low particle concentrations (below about 2-3 ppm of particles [not total
silver]). A typical colloidal silver product as produced by electrolysis
contains between 5 and 20 percent particles (10% is typical). Therefore,
Ken:
I believe salt is donating some of the chloride to silver o form
silver chloride ( which is a white precipitate if formed in large
quanties...)If you add some ammonia, it should disappear as it will
dissolve in Ammonium hydroxide.
Regards
Harsha Godavari
Ode Coyote wrote:
That
I look for facts. I found them.
Then give the links or references; not somebody said.
jr
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Marshall,
Send me your address and I will happily send you one of my laser pointers
as a small acknowledgement of your contribution to this forum in the years I
have been lurking here. I have several thousand in stock.
Best Regards,
Arnold Beland
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From: Marshall
Christine:
A batch of silver that reacts that way to H2O2 might be fairly low quality
CS... I have never used, ( as Ken mentioned ) h2o2 during the process, only
afterward.
Remember that a severe reaction between CS and H2O2 is the H2O2 reacting
with the particles. Since home brew units are
It is displaying fine. Maybe there was a hiccup on the net.
Marshall
James Osbourne, Holmes wrote:
My typo. My reference also spells it ibogaine.
It is probably illegal for a person to possess it, but not unlawful for a
free man to possess.
That link gave a Cannot be displayed... error.
Ibogaine was originally discovered by African native hunters, who
supposedly would consume large doses of it before going on important hunts,
so they could remain attentive yet perfectly still in the brush while the
prey approached.
It is also the fictitious drug that Hunter S. Thompson accused
Also, some very small portion of the water is ionized under standard
conditions.
James-Osbourne: Holmes
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From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:mdud...@execonn.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:01 AM
To: *Silver-List*
Subject: Re: CSSodium Hydroxide was buying cs instead
coprophilous: the US voting public.
James-Osbourne: Holmes
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From: Trem [mailto:t...@silvergen.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 9:31 AM
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRE: Glad cow syndrome
Sorry Ken. Stropharia Cubensis is exactly the same as Psilocybe
My typo. My reference also spells it ibogaine.
It is probably illegal for a person to possess it, but not unlawful for a
free man to possess.
That link gave a Cannot be displayed... error. I would really like to
view it. Please check the URL and confirm.
James-Osbourne: Holmes
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My husband says his ear has felt plugged for a while now. He can hear his
own voice reverberating in his head. He has also suffered with tinitis for
years. He's ready to go donate some more money to the doctor, but I'd
like to try CS first. I've read suggestions on using H2O2, then CS in the
The list was not exactly jam-packed with hot new information at the time
Saturday Morning. We did not interfere with any serious exchange.
Did you have something more interesting to offer?
Nine of 11 posts you listed were, in title at least, related to CS. Many
had meaningful CS content.
I
How recently has he flushed the wax out of his ears? There are some
across-the-counter preparations that work quite well. Might as well check
that first. Warm olive oil is good for softening too. Others on the list
will tell you what conc. of H202 to use, I don't recall what it is.
Marshall;
I only mentioned the chemical reaction between silver salts and
a strong alkali. Does my presence on this list bother you?
Regards
Harsha Godavari
Marshall Dudley wrote:
Ah, elementary chemistry. I love it! OK, took about 3 oz of 5 ppm CS, 80%
ionic,
and added a pinch
Marshall writes:
ibogaine...http://www.ibogaine.co.uk/ It is illegal to
possess in the US.
For something that isn't...yet:
http://www.sagewisdom.org/index.html
jr
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Hi Larry and all,
And some times K-Mart is just a little cheaper still [on sale]. I
just checked the Q-10 price ... co-op price, .24 per cap... my price .16
per cap.on 3 for 1 sale. Draw your own conclusion on their
price claims
In the world of vitamins and other nutrients they aint all
could the site possibly be divided between testimonials and and people making
cs it just goes on and on. mind you i very much respect those who are making
thier own cs i think you are very brave and daring rocket scientists : )
thank you
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From: dwells2...@aol.com
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2002 20:00:01 -0400
Subject: Re: CS CO-OP = CON ??
larry tankersley wrote:
And some times K-Mart is just a little cheaper still [on sale]. I
just checked the Q-10 price ... co-op price, .24 per cap... my price .16
per cap.on 3 for 1 sale. Draw
As you wish, Mike, but the relevance to the silver list is that aka Dr Jon
expressed a point about CS on a newsletter and exceptions were taken on this
one.
I would think it would be hashed here to a conclusion (or not) logically.
Still your call...
On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 00:16:18 +1200, Ivan Anderson i...@win.co.nz wrote:
So Chuck,
You present us with a message copied from another site by some chap we
don't know. How is this any different from the stuff you take
exception to?
You don't know me either Ivan, how far does this line of reasoning
Nifty toys/tools found using silver for search term at:
http://www.scientificsonline.com/
e.g.
0.5 volts/500mA Solar Cell
Cells are approx. 1/125 thick, lightweight and somewhat flexible with clean,
laser cut edges. Excellent light sensitivity.
CR30816-21 - $19.95
Also, a (expensive) green
listen... i do not make cs but i read the site and at one point
caution about distilled water from k-mart was a big issue. (BIG SPAM IN
BOX MESSAGES)anyway. in my travels on foot and on the net i came
across willard's water aloe water i think they both are distilled
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