Hello, Ivan.
Thanks for your response. It seems that symantics has been the
main reason for disagreement. We agree then that available silver ion
concentration is the prime determinant for 'CS' effectiveness, and that water
contaminated with chloride or sulphide ion acts to
investigated, mainly due to the difficultly of forming and capturing
ions of a single species.
Your thoughts good sir?
Ivan.
-Original Message-
From: Kevin Nolan [mailto:ken...@optusnet.com.au]
Sent: Tuesday, 18 December 2001 2:15 p.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: concentrated CS
In digest #1195, Ivan anderson wrote, in two separate postings:
If a silver salt or protein were to enter the body as a compound, then it
is much less likely that it will be deposited in the tissue, simply because the
compound must have a high affinity for the silver and would be far less
: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
It appears that silver nitrate is being used again on babies:
http://www.parenthoodweb.com/articles/phw1380.htm
http://www.sangfroid.com/babypix/plan.html
http://www.lamaze.com/baby/firsthour/articles/0,9474,167862_80951,00.html
From what I
they are present.
Ivan.
-Original Message-
From: Reid Harvey [mailto:ceram...@bol-online.com]
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2001 3:00 p.m.
To: silver list
Subject: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
Ken,
I never stopped to think that the silver may be the
hydroxide, evedince
supplied as highly concentrated salts or
proteins, only a very small percentage of its users developed argyria.
Ivan.
-Original Message-
From: Jason / AVRA [mailto:silverd...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 13 December 2001 3:44 p.m.
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated
Ivan:
Granted, I am certainly not yet an expert on how substances are handled by
the body, biologically speaking. However, the belief that water is handled
in the same manner as foods in the body is not a universally accepted
concept. In Your Body's Many Cries for Water, Fereydoon
: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
It appears that silver nitrate is being used again on babies:
http://www.parenthoodweb.com/articles/phw1380.htm
http://www.sangfroid.com/babypix/plan.html
http://www.lamaze.com/baby/firsthour/articles/0,9474,167862_80951,00.html
From what I recall silver
to
'take two aspirins and lie down' - and she was dead of a heart attack when
her husband got home from work that day.
Judith.
- Original Message -
From: Josephine joseph...@poidogs.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated CS
: Friday, December 14, 2001 3:34 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
It appears that silver nitrate is being used again on babies:
http://www.parenthoodweb.com/articles/phw1380.htm
http://www.sangfroid.com/babypix/plan.html
http://www.lamaze.com/baby/firsthour/articles
I think the horrifying part was also the impatient doctor.
What was his rush?
Did he have a hot date that night?
Excuse me, but I am already assuming it is a HE because it sounds like a HE.
I wonder if you would have had to endure the burning pain had the doctor
allowed you
to deliver without the
- search the archives for more.
regards, Kevin Nolan
- Original Message -
From: Jason / AVRA silverd...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
From: Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
Reid
My chemistry is also pretty limited. I think you have me mixed up with
someone elses postings.
From what I gather, silver nitrate is dangerous because very small amounts
contain a lot of silver ...and... silver nitrates are corrosive to body
tissues and leave black stains.
Even still,
Sure. And it might explain why all CS is effective no matter how badly
it's made.
No matter how many huge particles there are, there are also small ones
present.
The body just sorts them out according to what it can use, sending them to
where they can go.
What can't get in goes through and
It appears that silver nitrate is being used again on babies:
http://www.parenthoodweb.com/articles/phw1380.htm
http://www.sangfroid.com/babypix/plan.html
http://www.lamaze.com/baby/firsthour/articles/0,9474,167862_80951,00.html
From what I recall silver nitrate was discontinued in the 70's due
The hydroxide radicals are already there in the dyhydrogen monoxide which
composes 99.% of the CS. This is nothing more than H(OH) a hydrogen ion
and an hydroxide radical. If any hydrogen bubbles off, then the hydroxide
radical is freed.
BTW here is an msds on the substance:
## Somehow my name got attached to something I didn't write.
But, hydroxide or not, salt or not...at 10 to 30 PPM, you'd drown long
before you get anything like a toxic dose. At a 94% elimination rate per 48
hrs, you'd drown for years before you'd get argryia. [note below that
ingest per day
Reid Harvey wrote:
Ken,
Also, back to my limited chemistry, I would like to know why it is that
one would have to isolate one element in a simple compound as the
culprit in a health problem. For example with silver nitrate why does
the problem have to be either the silver or the nitrate.
Reid Harvey, Ode Coyote wrote:
Ken,
I never stopped to think that the silver may be the hydroxide, evedince
that my understanding of chemistry is limited. (Sometimes I stop and
think and sometimes I just stop.) Can you fill me in on how it is that
the hydroxide is a salt?
Silver hydroxide
From: Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
But is argyria solely due to the high silver dosage possible with silver
nitrate (very high solubility), or is there some kind of synergy effect as
well?
regards, Kevin Nolan
Kevin:
The slate blue colour of argyria is not entirely due as one might
toxic in it's own right (eg, mercury).
Kevin Nolan
- Original Message -
From: Marshall Dudley mdud...@execonn.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
Reid Harvey wrote:
Ken,
Also, back to my
Greetings All..
since my last update about my arthritisI have severely relapsedI am
personally 99% sure that what I am dealing with is none other than leaky gut
syndrome...I experience alergic-like reactions whenever I eat..the
main symptom besides the arthritis is watery
R.e. bluebloods -- I have heard this anecdote many times. I have also
heard that the popular glass harmonica, invented I think by Benjamin
Franklin, or at least enjoyed by him, caused big problems because
players got led poisioning by rubbing away at their crystal glasses!
That is hard to
Kevin,
First off I should say that we produce concentrated CS using de-ionized
water, of TDS less than 10. I am unclear as to just where the
dissociated hydroxide ions are coming from.
Reid
Kevin Nolan wrote:
Silver hydroxide would not be a salt, but rather a base. IE sodium
hydroxide is lye.
Ken,
This is all very interesting, a new twist I haven't seen here before.
So an indication of a majority of particles of small size is to be found
where there is pale yellow with good TE. If this is a large majority I
would imagine there would be an argument to suggest that this CS is no
less
Jason,
Thanks for the reference material. The conditions seem to be pretty
extreme - not many of us are going to be using 1500 PPM solution of silver
salts of any kind as drinking water. Nevertheless it raises an interesting
matter. Most of the home made CS has the silver in the
Reid Harvey wrote:
Ken,
I never stopped to think that the silver may be the hydroxide, evedince
that my understanding of chemistry is limited. (Sometimes I stop and
think and sometimes I just stop.) Can you fill me in on how it is that
the hydroxide is a salt?
Silver hydroxide would not be
Ken,
I never stopped to think that the silver may be the hydroxide, evedince
that my understanding of chemistry is limited. (Sometimes I stop and
think and sometimes I just stop.) Can you fill me in on how it is that
the hydroxide is a salt? Does anybody else have an answer? I feel sure
that
In digest #1177, Jason/AVRA wrote:
When you tell someone a stabilizer is safe, you are risking their health
and
well-being on very serious level. You are giving them the impression that
silver is not a toxic substance in the human body. While your own
understanding may be great, theirs
!
From: Kevin Nolan ken...@optusnet.com.au
Reply-To: silver-list@eskimo.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Subject: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 01:03:37 +1100
In digest #1177, Jason/AVRA wrote:
When you tell someone a stabilizer is safe, you are risking
silverd...@hotmail.com
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:22 AM
Subject: Re: CSRe: concentrated CS and 'aglomeration'
Kevin:
Addition of silver acetate to the diet (130-1000 ppm) or drinking water
(1500 ppm) of weaning rats fed a vitamin E deficient diet, precipitated
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