Re: CS>tyndall again

2009-11-23 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
For some reason, I seem to get two emails from you Peter, exactly the same! dee On 22 Nov 2009, at 21:50, Peter Converse wrote: > Hi Dorothy, > > Is your distiller stable now in its cleanliness and test-proven TDS readings > and is it producing water in a reliably consistent manner repeatedly?

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2009-11-22 Thread Peter Converse
hy Fitzpatrick" To: Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 12:20 PM Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Just thought that I'd report that the DW I made that read 002 has made clear silver, and I made another brew using the one which read 000 but went yellow; and this has also made a clear bre

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2009-11-21 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Just thought that I'd report that the DW I made that read 002 has made clear silver, and I made another brew using the one which read 000 but went yellow; and this has also made a clear brew (after three days) Puzzling eh? I've also made another batch of DW NOT using the Brita filtered water,

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2009-11-20 Thread Ode Coyote
ce he had started with Ag+. As I read it, "2 Ag0" is the same as "2Ag". So it does show the conversion of silver ions to metallic silver. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:15 AM To: silver

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2009-11-19 Thread Norton, Steve
w the conversion of silver ions to metallic silver. - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 2:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>tyndall again At 11:07 AM 11/18/2009 -0600, you wrote: > > &

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2009-11-19 Thread Marshall Dudley
t: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Maybe: For the same reason that all of the silver ions don't combine with the Hydroxyl anions to make all of it into silver hydroxide"Hydration" Dunno if this is the way it is, bu

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2009-11-19 Thread Ode Coyote
tallic silver and make AgO out of metallic silver. ..clean a black electrode, then make it black again. Ode -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>tyndall ag

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2009-11-19 Thread Ode Coyote
ver http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2.html Commentary on Hydrogen Peroxide ( H2O2 ) and Colloidal Silver http://www.silvermedicine.org/h2o2archives.html - Steve N -Original Message- From: Ode Coyote [mailto:odecoy...@windstream.net] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 4:10 AM To: silver-li

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2009-11-18 Thread cking001
and the stove burned my supper... Chuck I xeroxed a mirror. Now I have an extra xerox machine. On 11/18/2009 11:52:00 AM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-cart.com) wrote: > Windows is very bad about missing characters. I always have to go back >

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2009-11-18 Thread cking001
Damn spell checker didn't catch it... Chuck You know how it is when you go to be the subject of a psychology experiment, and nobody else shows up, and you think maybe that's part of the experiment? I'm like that all the time. On 11/18/2009 6:57:12 AM, Dorot

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2009-11-18 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I did this Marshall, but my clear CS turned murky green! It was 3% H202 though. dee On 18 Nov 2009, at 16:57, Marshall Dudley wrote: > The CS becomes involved in a redux cycle, thus converting large particle CS > to very small, primarily 2 particle colloid. This is all explained at > http:/

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2009-11-18 Thread Norton, Steve
water and oxygen gas. It reduces silver oxide to silver. Ag20 + H2O2 > 2Ag + H2O + O2" - Steve -Original Message- From: Norton, Steve [mailto:stephen.nor...@ngc.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 9:07 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: RE: CS>tyndall aga

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2009-11-18 Thread Norton, Steve
er 18, 2009 4:10 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Maybe: For the same reason that all of the silver ions don't combine with the Hydroxyl anions to make all of it into silver hydroxide"Hydration" Dunno if this is the way it is, but here's

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2009-11-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
- From: "Dan Nave" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Buy some food grade H2O2, without any stabilizers, and after the CS is made, about 2 days, add some drops of the H2O2. This will clear out the color and insure a good end product. Don&#

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2009-11-18 Thread Marshall Dudley
Windows is very bad about missing characters. I always have to go back and fill in those it missed, sometimes it will miss 5-10 whole words, or get them in the wrong order. Occasionally I miss something that Windows messed up on me. Marshall cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: You'd take advise f

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2009-11-18 Thread Ode Coyote
ot;Dan Nave" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Buy some food grade H2O2, without any stabilizers, and after the CS is made, about 2 days, add some drops of the H2O2. This will clear out the color and insure a good end product. Don't use t

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2009-11-18 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Ooh Chuck, and you said 'advise' too! Naught, naughty! dee On 17 Nov 2009, at 23:30, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > You'd take advise from someone who can't even spell his own first name > correctly? > > Chuck > If it's zero degrees outside today and it's

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2009-11-17 Thread Tony Moody
Hallo Dorothy, green could most likely be nickel or copper ok, Tony On 17 Nov 2009 at 20:00, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CS>tyndall again > I have already done the thing with the H202 with stabilizers Dan, with, as > you say, disastrous results! I had bought the

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2009-11-17 Thread Neville Munn
c from that research whilst not being 'fixated' or 'locked into' published material quite as much. N. From: d...@deetroy.org Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 12:33:04 + To: silver-list@eskimo.com The trouble is Neville, that other people buy

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2009-11-17 Thread Dan Nave
We'll have to ask Marhall about that. Dan On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:02 PM, James McCourt, Ph.D. wrote: > Why would it not oxidize the CS? > > - Original Message - > From: "Dan Nave" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:08 AM > Subject: Re:

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2009-11-17 Thread James McCourt, Ph.D.
Why would it not oxidize the CS? - Original Message - From: "Dan Nave" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 11:08 AM Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Buy some food grade H2O2, without any stabilizers, and after the CS is made, about 2 days, add some drops of the H2O2. Th

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2009-11-17 Thread cking001
You'd take advise from someone who can't even spell his own first name correctly? Chuck If it's zero degrees outside today and it's supposed to be twice as cold tomorrow, how cold is it going to be? On 11/17/2009 11:47:55 AM, Marshall Dudley (mdud...@king-

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2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks Garnet, they have enclosed some cleaner with the machine which they tell you to use once a week, but I have only used it about five times. I have cleaned it now with vinegar which I sprayed on and used a melamine pad to clean it off. I then rinsed it three times with tap water and let i

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2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I have already done the thing with the H202 with stabilizers Dan, with, as you say, disastrous results! I had bought the 3% one as someone had said this was ok, but all I got was a murky green mess! dee On 17 Nov 2009, at 19:08, Dan Nave wrote: > Buy some food grade H2O2, without any stabiliz

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2009-11-17 Thread Garnet
I use white vinegar to clean my distiller and never have any problem with producing clear CS. I do not rinse with sodium bicarbonate. I rinse three times with tap water and do not wipe. I am using about a cup of 9% white vinegar in one gallon of water. I let this sit for a half a day or more

Re: CS>tyndall again

2009-11-17 Thread Dan Nave
Buy some food grade H2O2, without any stabilizers, and after the CS is made, about 2 days, add some drops of the H2O2. This will clear out the color and insure a good end product. Don't use the H2O2 with stabilizers. You are only asking for trouble (confusion) if you do... Dan On Tue, Nov 17,

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2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Oh Lord, I've cleaned it out with vinegar now. I did rinse it out thoroughly but I'll do it again with bicarbonate of soda. Thanks Marshall. dee On 17 Nov 2009, at 16:47, Marshall Dudley wrote: > Vinegar is a bad contaminant for distilled water. Acetic acid has a > significant vapor pressu

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2009-11-17 Thread Marshall Dudley
Vinegar is a bad contaminant for distilled water. Acetic acid has a significant vapor pressure at the boiling point of water, and will boil off with it, then condense and end up in the distilled container. If you want to make absolutely sure that no acetic acid is left, then rinse, or wipe o

Re: CS>tyndall again

2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
It is really weird, because I used cold water after the first distilling, because I double distilled. This is when the reading went up. I will try your advice though and see what happens. I haven't actually made any CS with this batch, so it will be interesting to see what happens when I do.

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2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
The trouble is Neville, that other people buy it from me and I told them that it has to be clear (big mouth) because that is what I believed at the time. So if any goes yellow, it costs me to replace it of course. dee On 16 Nov 2009, at 22:57, Neville Munn wrote: > This is the thing Dee, from

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2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
No I didn't do this David, I distilled without using the filter. What I did do with the second batch, was run it through a Brita filter *before* I boiled it and distilled it. dee On 16 Nov 2009, at 21:22, Alchemysa wrote: > > When distilling water for colloidal silver do NOT use the charcoal,

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2009-11-17 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Right (I think!) dee On 16 Nov 2009, at 20:01, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > You'll find out, but doing nothing teaches nothing. > > Chuck > There are no short cuts to any place worth going. > > -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Co

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2009-11-16 Thread Tony Moody
On 16 Nov 2009 at 19:33, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CS>tyndall again > I haven't put the filters in Tony. dee > > On 16 Nov 2009, at 19:11, Tony Moody wrote: > > > Hi Dorothy, > > > > I can't see how filtering the water befo

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2009-11-16 Thread Garnet
Just rinse the distiller three times after washing with vinegar. Distilling is going to remove contaminants from the water. So any slight traces of vinegar are being removed from the final product along with minerals and other impurities in the tap water. If you are using hot tap water you might

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2009-11-16 Thread Neville Munn
here are just TOO MANY variables to contend with, or attempt to control, so why try? What I produce is STILL damn good stuff, besides, one can only produce a perfect solution in a perfect world, and I don't believe we are within cooee of that when speaking of EIS/CS . N. From: d...@de

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2009-11-16 Thread cking001
You'll find out, but doing nothing teaches nothing. Chuck There are no short cuts to any place worth going. On 11/16/2009 2:35:14 PM, Dorothy Fitzpatrick (d...@deetroy.org) wrote: > I'll try this Chuck, but wouldn't the vinegar itself be a contaminant? > d

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2009-11-16 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
I'll try this Chuck, but wouldn't the vinegar itself be a contaminant? dee On 16 Nov 2009, at 19:27, cking...@nycap.rr.com wrote: > Is it possible that your first use left the distiller with residue > from using up ALL the water? Thus adding contaminates for subsequent > batches? (you know, whit

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2009-11-16 Thread cking001
Is it possible that your first use left the distiller with residue from using up ALL the water? Thus adding contaminates for subsequent batches? (you know, white stuff?) Scrub it with a little white vinegar after use and try again. Don't run the distiller 'till it's dry. Preboiling the water befo

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2009-11-16 Thread Tony Moody
e the culprit. See if removing the filter makes a difference, OK, Tony On 16 Nov 2009 at 17:18, Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote about : Subject : Re: CS>tyndall again > Hi Tony, I just wiped it out with a cloth and then paper towel after I > finished distilling, because I thought that the stea

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2009-11-16 Thread Peter Converse
or two. Peter - Original Message - From: Dorothy Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Monday, November 16, 2009 8:52 AM Subject: Re: CS>tyndall again Thanks Nevelle, its just the first lot of DW I 'brewed' came out at 000 on the TDS. This was just wa

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2009-11-16 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Brand new. dee On 16 Nov 2009, at 14:45, Garnet wrote: > How old is your Brita Filter? > > Garnet > > -- > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information > > Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN > http://www

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2009-11-16 Thread Garnet
How old is your Brita Filter? Garnet -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Very_Low_Dose_Naltrexone http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LDN_Information Dr Chris Steele, ITV's This Morning supporting LDN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVpjsDK0LPA Dorothy Fitzpatrick wrote: Thanks Nevelle,

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2009-11-16 Thread Dorothy Fitzpatrick
Thanks Nevelle, its just the first lot of DW I 'brewed' came out at 000 on the TDS. This was just water boiled in the kettle and then put in the distiller. The second lot went through a Brita filter first before boiling and then steam distilling. after the first time, it read 002 on the TDS s

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2009-11-16 Thread Neville Munn
I get the impression you're concerned about this, why would that be? Some DW shows TE some don't, some end product shows TE and some don't have as much, it all depends on which way one parted their hair on the day they brewed it . 3uS seems fine to me, it's within my tolerance level, if