Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-11-04 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: Marshall Dudley wrote: NO! You are talking about two different things that are being called the same name. Melamine polymer is totally non toxic, inert, safe, and has never killed anyone except by maybe a stack of dishes falling on them. What killed the animals and babies was

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-11-04 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
Thanks for that Marshall, now I'm even happier using them! lol dee ---Original Message--- From: Marshall Dudley Date: 11/04/08 17:29:48 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! So, what about the melamine scrub pad thingees, which one are they? This plastic

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-11-03 Thread Marshall Dudley
sol wrote: The concern and even fear comes from food products from china which have been tainted with it. Melamine may be fine as dishes, etc and other plastic goods, but it killed thousands of dogs and cats when added to gluten as a cheap filler, which gluten then ended up in animal foods.

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-11-03 Thread sol
Marshall Dudley wrote: NO! You are talking about two different things that are being called the same name. Melamine polymer is totally non toxic, inert, safe, and has never killed anyone except by maybe a stack of dishes falling on them. What killed the animals and babies was NOT melamine

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-11-01 Thread sol
Thanks, but I have allergic skin reactions to Dr. Bronner's soaps so can't use them. sol mborg...@att.net wrote: We too cook with coconut oil, I use tko or Dr. Bonners soap they do not have suds or bubbles but they do an excellant job. Mary -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-11-01 Thread sol
The concern and even fear comes from food products from china which have been tainted with it. Melamine may be fine as dishes, etc and other plastic goods, but it killed thousands of dogs and cats when added to gluten as a cheap filler, which gluten then ended up in animal foods. Eating off

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-31 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
---Original Message--- From: mborg...@att.net Date: 30/10/2008 22:41:53 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Dee, Why are you arguing with me?? I am mearly telling you that it contains melamine, you may not feel it, smell it or taste it butpoison is poison. Keep

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-31 Thread Marshall Dudley
/---Original Message---/ /*From:*/ indi mailto:indi.sha...@gmail.com /*Date:*/ 30/10/2008 14:38:23 /*To:*/ silver-list@eskimo.com mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com /*Subject:*/ Re: CSTainted Food Alert! There are quite a few alternatives to cleaning with poison

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-31 Thread mborgert
Dear Sol, We too cook with coconut oil, I use tko or Dr. Bonners soap they do not have suds or bubbles but they do an excellant job. Mary -- Original message from sol sol...@sweetwaterhsa.com: -- Once a "nontoxic" liquid dish soap grew black mold right in the

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!- plastics

2008-10-31 Thread Clayton Family
Thanks again, Marshall. In one study done way back in the 80's? it was shown that toxins in plastic wrap migrate into the foods they are storing. It also showed that polyethelene was the only one that had much lesser rates of transmission. Original Saran Wrap was the only commercially

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-31 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Melamine plastic is no different than any other plastic. They are almost all formed from toxic monomers, catalysts, or give off toxic compounds when curing. PVC is made from very toxic vinyl chloride, acrylic from toxic methyl methacrylate

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-31 Thread indi
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 13:37:56 -0500 Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:03 PM, indi wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:04 -0500 Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I would worry more about the new particle board under the formica, as it

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Dee
Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic. I cannot see a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using anyway, and then dry. dee Marshall Dudley wrote: Using scrubbing pads made of

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Faith Gagne
Message - From: Dee d...@deetroy.org To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 8:41 AM Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic. I cannot see

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Dee
that should have read 'melamine'. dee Dee wrote: Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it means I don't have to use washing up liquid which is highly toxic. I cannot see a problem, because I rinse it under the tap after using anyway, and then dry. dee --

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread mborgert
Dee, This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS. It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic. Mary -- Original message from Dee d...@deetroy.org: -- that should have read 'melamine'. dee Dee

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread indi
There are quite a few alternatives to cleaning with poison: http://www.amazon.com/s?ie=UTF8keywords=non%20toxic%20dish%20soapindex=blendedlink%5Fcode=qs indi On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:41:17 + Dee d...@deetroy.org wrote: Well I use the little melanine pads to clean dishes with because it

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Marshall Dudley
indi wrote: Thanks Marshall, that's good information to have. Unfortunately for me, a lot of my indoor environment (counters, shelves, and cupboards in my kitchen and bathroom) is covered with formica. It's old formica, made in 1973. Do you think it still releases toxins? No I don't. I would

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
the bathroom things just fine, without using other more toxic substances. dee ---Original Message--- From: indi Date: 30/10/2008 14:38:23 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! There are quite a few alternatives to cleaning with poison: http://www.amazon com/s?ie

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Dee Fitzpatrick
: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Dee, This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS. It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic. Mary

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Clayton Family
On Oct 30, 2008, at 9:48 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: indi wrote: Thanks Marshall, that's good information to have. Unfortunately for me, a lot of my indoor environment (counters, shelves, and cupboards in my kitchen and bathroom) is covered with formica. It's old formica, made in 1973. Do

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread indi
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:04 -0500 Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I would worry more about the new particle board under the formica, as it outgasses formaldehyde.. No particle board under my formica, it's honeycomb aluminum core covered on both sides with formica. indi

Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Dishwashing

2008-10-30 Thread Rowena
Hulda Clark says you can't rinse it off, there is always a residue. She recommends borax and washing soda. Borax in the dishwasher, with vinegar as a rinse aid. R When I wash a few dishes by hand here and there I use liquid dish soap, and because it is concentrated I dilute it a lot

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Clayton Family
On Oct 30, 2008, at 1:03 PM, indi wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 12:51:04 -0500 Clayton Family clay...@skypoint.com wrote: I would worry more about the new particle board under the formica, as it outgasses formaldehyde.. No particle board under my formica, it's honeycomb aluminum core

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread Ruth Bertella
:20 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! Dee, This is exactly what I was saying NO ONE WISHES TO GIVE UP THE LITTLE WHITE POISON PADS. It is your health, you can always find dish soap that is non toxic. Mary

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread mborgert
bber thingy's on one side? - or - both? - Original Message - From: Dee Fitzpatrick To: silver-list@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2008 11:07 AM Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! I can't see how they are poison Mary, nothing comes off of them. Even if a minute amount d

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread mborgert
and water. The little pads clean all the bathroom things just fine, without using other more toxic substances. dee ---Original Message--- From: indi Date: 30/10/2008 14:38:23 To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! There are quite a few alternatives to "cleani

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread mborgert
Dear Indi. Thank you for the information I am a professional non toxic house cleaner, I have 17 clients that I clean myself and I am 65. I research everything I use because I use theseproducts continually. One can almost tell what kind of diseases the client and family has just by what is

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-30 Thread sol
Once a nontoxic liquid dish soap grew black mold right in the liquid. For the longest time I could not figure out how the black mold and mold smell was getting into all my dishrags and sponges. I could not get all the mold spores out of the soap dispensers so had to throw them all out. Just

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread mborgert
Another alert All of my clients have and use with bare hands that little white pad known as mr clean or any number of brands, it is made from malamine. I have seen children use it and than put their hands in their mouths, I try and warn anyone but everyone loves the poison. I cannot get

RE: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread Carl Deb Charter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUB79WJ9ktQ -Original Message- From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com [mailto:kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 10:15 AM To: silver-list@eskimo.com; lymec...@yahoogroups.com; lymestrateg...@yahoogroups.com Subject: CSTainted Food Alert! From:

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
The real problem for consumers is the milk powder that was imported and incorporated into products in the US. The county of origin shown on the packaging is the final producer, and there is no hint that there is any food in it from China. As fro the FDA, any time they say something is safe,

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread kmilkowski
How can you say such a thing about those nice folks over at the food and death administration?? Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: The real problem for consumers is the milk powder that was imported and incorporated into products in the US. The county of origin shown on

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread Marshall Dudley
Let me say that first of all, that the guy in the video is wrong about them using scrap melamine polymers in the China milk. Melamine polymer is a very stable plastic which not only would pass through one's digestive system unchanged and unabsorbed, but also would not yield any increase in

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread kmilkowski
Good info Marshall.. Whatever it is, it did make an awful lot of kids sick in China along with killing a bunch. Better to be safe than sorry, the more information you can read through the better, thanks, Kurt Marshall Dudley mdud...@king-cart.com wrote: Let me say that first of all,

RE: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread Dianne France
:43:04 -0400 From: kmilkow...@cfl.rr.com To: silver-list@eskimo.com Subject: Re: CSTainted Food Alert! CC: mdud...@king-cart.com Good info Marshall.. Whatever it is, it did make an awful lot of kids sick in China along with killing a bunch. Better to be safe than sorry, the more information

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread Clayton Family
Not in mine! Until I know what something is made of, it does not come in my house Thanks for telling us what it is made of, I had no idea it was made of melamine. Kathryn On Oct 29, 2008, at 10:34 AM, mborg...@att.net wrote: Another alert All of my clients have and use with bare

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread Clayton Family
Thank you very much Marshall, for the informed update. Kathryn On Oct 29, 2008, at 11:20 AM, Marshall Dudley wrote: What they were adding is melamine MONOMER. This is the liquid which polymerizes when heated to form melamine plastic after crosslinking with formaldehyde. The stuff is very

Re: CSTainted Food Alert!

2008-10-29 Thread indi
Thanks Marshall, that's good information to have. Unfortunately for me, a lot of my indoor environment (counters, shelves, and cupboards in my kitchen and bathroom) is covered with formica. It's old formica, made in 1973. Do you think it still releases toxins? Maybe my energy-inefficient habit