Re: [Sip-implementors] Proper signaling of IPV4 / IPV6 in SDP?

2008-09-23 Thread Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)
m=audio 25000 RTP/AVP 0 c=IN IP6 2001:DB8::1 m=audio 25000 RTP/AVP 0 c=IN IP4 192.0.2.1 This is 2 media stream, hence this could be correct option. Vipul Rastogi -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Szilagyi,

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Rastogi, Vipul (Vipul)
To put B2BUA is in simple terms...A server which is governed by UAC and UAS behavior but not necessarily in same session. So whenever one wants to do something which is not feasible by standard SIP servers, free to do with B2BUA server. It is application server whose implementation (except UAC and

Re: [Sip-implementors] Proper signaling of IPV4 / IPV6 in SDP?

2008-09-23 Thread Brett Tate
See the following draft: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sipping-v6-transition-07 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Szilagyi, Mike > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 3:41 PM > To: Sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu > S

[Sip-implementors] Proper signaling of IPV4 / IPV6 in SDP?

2008-09-23 Thread Szilagyi, Mike
What is the proper way to signal RTP support for both IPV6/IPV4 in the SDP? Should there be a single m=line with two c=lines: m=audio 25000 RTP/AVP 0 c=IN IP6 2001:DB8::1 c=IN IP4 192.0.2.1 or two m=lines with two 2 c=lines: m=audio 25000 RTP/AVP 0 c=IN IP6 2001:

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Dale . Worley
From: "Vikram Chhibber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I think I have missed something here. Why do we need to maintain codec numbers relationship with the previous offer/answer (Between Alice and Bob)? My understanding is that offer/answer model does not have any state dependency with previou

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Kyzivat
I'm not familiar with either of these "features", but I do agree that you can invent features that would require a B2BUA. Thanks, Paul Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > El Martes, 23 de Septiembre de 2008, Paul Kyzivat escribió: >> Iñaki, >> >> While many "pbx"s (including those from m

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
El Martes, 23 de Septiembre de 2008, Paul Kyzivat escribió: > Iñaki, > > While many "pbx"s (including those from my employer) are implemented as > B2BUAs, it is possible to implement pbx functionality without a B2BUA. > (Dale and Scott can explain to you how they do it.) Sure, I don't doubt it at

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Bhanu K S (bhks) wrote: > Hi Karthik, > > Lets say A supports certain codecs like G711ulaw and G711alaw. > B supports G729 and G726. since both does not have common codec session > establishment always fail. > Here comes B2BUA importance, this receives invite from A and sends to B > which B supp

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Bhanu K S (bhks)
Hi Karthik, Lets say A supports certain codecs like G711ulaw and G711alaw. B supports G729 and G726. since both does not have common codec session establishment always fail. Here comes B2BUA importance, this receives invite from A and sends to B which B supports. Hence A and B will establish sessi

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Brett Tate
I agree that SIP allows UDP fragmentation. However for vulnerability reasons, UDP fragmentation support is disabled within some deployments. Including requests within responses is discussed within the following expired draft. See security section for reason others than size. http://tools.ietf

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Kyzivat
karthik, B2BUA is a very general mechanism that may be used for a multitude of purposes, some good, some evil. Some things that are B2BUAs that you might not think of as such: - a conference focus - a presence server The kind of B2BUA you seem to be talking about is probably an SBC, or maybe a

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Paul Kyzivat
Iñaki, While many "pbx"s (including those from my employer) are implemented as B2BUAs, it is possible to implement pbx functionality without a B2BUA. (Dale and Scott can explain to you how they do it.) Paul Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > 2008/9/23, karthik karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>

Re: [Sip-implementors] Music-on-hold proposal

2008-09-23 Thread Vikram Chhibber
I think I have missed something here. Why do we need to maintain codec numbers relationship with the previous offer/answer (Between Alice and Bob)? My understanding is that offer/answer model does not have any state dependency with previous one except for "o" line and maintaining media description

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Scott Lawrence
On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 16:21 +0200, Iñaki Baz Castillo wrote: > 2008/9/23, Klaus Darilion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > it would also be helpful to include the request as a message/sipfrag > > > body in the response, since this gives the sender some hope of > > > understanding how the request re

Re: [Sip-implementors] Should 'ptime' value be multiple of 5 or 10

2008-09-23 Thread Hearty, John
RFC 3551 has defaults for common codecs in RTP. It is a good idea to stick to those defaults when you can for improved interoperability. It does however note: 4.3 Guidelines for Sample-Based Audio Encodings An RTP audio packet may contain any number of audio samples, subject to the constr

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Prateep K.
Hi Karthik, Functionality of B2BUA 1. Act as inter-working functionality from SIP to H.323. 2. Supports codec translations from two different call legs I.e. A -> B2BUA -> B 3. By Call Management B2BUA can generate Call Detail records for billing purposes. Thanks, Prateep.K -Orig

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2008/9/23, Klaus Darilion <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > it would also be helpful to include the request as a message/sipfrag > > body in the response, since this gives the sender some hope of > > understanding how the request reached the wrong place. > > > Sounds useful. Nevertheless I wonder why th

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Klaus Darilion
Scott Lawrence schrieb: > On Mon, 2008-09-22 at 16:53 +0200, Klaus Darilion wrote: >> Hi! >> >> What is the response code for a SIP request which was routed to the >> wrong proxy, e.g. "INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" was wrongly routed to >> example.com SIP proxy. How should example.com reject the

Re: [Sip-implementors] sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu

2008-09-23 Thread krishna kalluri
Hi Karthik, As you stated below the B2BUA role is mainly for any kind of services. It could be PBX, Annoucement, conferencing or for security. In general SIP proxy provides the routing of sip messages. B2BUA is a kind of functionality and if you like you can implement together in the same physica

Re: [Sip-implementors] Max Length of "Sip Display Name" field in From header

2008-09-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2008/9/23, Hari Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can you please tell me, where we can get the information related > to "Max Length of "Sip Display Name" field in From header". No limit. > I would also like to know, which are the characters, that are > allowed in "Sip Displ

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2008/9/23, Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Hi > The question is "What is the response code for a SIP request which was > routed to the wrong proxy, e.g. "INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" was wrongly > routed to example.com SIP proxy. How should example.com reject the request? >

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei)
Hi The question is "What is the response code for a SIP request which was routed to the wrong proxy, e.g. "INVITE sip:[EMAIL PROTECTED]" was wrongly routed to example.com SIP proxy. How should example.com reject the request? 404 or is there a better code - something like "I am not authoritative

Re: [Sip-implementors] Max Length of "Sip Display Name" field in Fromheader

2008-09-23 Thread Somesh S. Shanbhag
No Limit as long as it is quoted string Somesh S Shanbhag M G L Bangalore -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Hari Kumar Sent: Tue 9/23/2008 3:38 PM To: sip-implementors@lists.cs.columbia.edu Subject: [Sip-implementors] Max Length of "Sip Display Name" field in Fromh

[Sip-implementors] Max Length of "Sip Display Name" field in From header

2008-09-23 Thread Hari Kumar
Hi All, Can you please tell me, where we can get the information related to "Max Length of "Sip Display Name" field in From header". I would also like to know, which are the characters, that are allowed in "Sip Display Name" filed. Regards Hari

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2008/9/23, Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I hope the right response cdode is 403 Forbidden. > While proxy sends 403 to UA it indicates two information to UA. For me 403 means: "You don't have permission to access this resource, but I'm capable of offering it". Why not a 502

Re: [Sip-implementors] respone code for wrong routed SIP request

2008-09-23 Thread Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei)
I hope the right response cdode is 403 Forbidden. While proxy sends 403 to UA it indicates two information to UA. 1. Authorization wouldn't help. 2. Do not repeat the request. Thanks Kamal -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Klaus Darilion S

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Iñaki Baz Castillo
2008/9/23, karthik karthik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello, > Here is a question which I have for long time. > What is the prupose of having B2BUA? > I know that the B2BUA changes from tag, > callid and maintains a seperate dialog when to tag is received. > > But why it does change in these heade

Re: [Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread Kamalakanta Palei (kpalei)
Hi Karthik B2BUA has got its own advantage. Imagine a call where originating side (Say Phone A) mandates a particular feature and the terminating side (Say Phone B) does not have support for that. In that case B2BUA will act as terminating endpoint for Phone A and orginating endpoint for Phone B.

[Sip-implementors] why do we need b2bua?

2008-09-23 Thread karthik karthik
Hello, Here is a question which I have for long time. What is the prupose of having B2BUA? I know that the B2BUA changes from tag, callid and maintains a seperate dialog when to tag is received. But why it does change in these headers? Some say it is for security reasons? If yes how is it used for