[SLUG] System Boot failure.

2006-03-24 Thread bill
Suddenly my Kanotix 2005-4 (Debian) hdd install hangs on boot. It gets to Starting the nmb and smb daemons and then hangs trying to load whatever is next ( kdm I think). It may have something to do with my failed attempt at installing the ATI driver for my Radeon 9200SE card. I can access

Re: Throttling??? Re: [SLUG] bittorrent clients

2006-03-24 Thread nornagon
libtorrent/rtorrent does throttling, and very nicely :) -- - nornagon -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
Again, I write in the Royal you. On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:21, tuxta2 wrote: If being a Free Software group means no rules at all, cause rules are not in the right spirit, does that make it okay for me to start sending links to porn sites I like? The society we choose to create and live in

[SLUG] Open Networks iConnectAccess621 under Linux

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Massey
Morning, Does anybody have any information about whether this ADSL router works with Linux? From my reading, it seems that it would work fine, just plug into the Ethernet port and use the web interface to configure rather than the Windows software, but I don't know enough about the beasts to be

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Greetings! My thoughts below: --- Bret Comstock Waldow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I have no problem with this group/mailing list enforcing rules for posting, ... we (in ilugc), call it merely guidelines: http://www.chennailug.org/wiki/List_Guidelines If you read through them, you will

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread James Purser
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 21:46 +1200, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: Linux is a copyrighted term. Quick correction. Linux the kernel is held under copyright. Linux the name/brand has been declared a generic term in this country and hence available for anyone to use. So what does it mean, that this

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Friday 24 March 2006 20:46, Bret Comstock Waldow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Linux is a copyrighted term. There are licenses and laws that define how 'Linux' can be used, and they apply. Linux is a trademark (although I believe it is now a generic term in Australia). AFAIK, you can't

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Tom Massey
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 21:46 +1200, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: To be about Linux means to be about Free Software. If you aren't, leave the name for another group that is - maybe they're willing to back it up. Linus isn't really a Free Software guy, from what I've read. He's more Open Source,

Re: [SLUG] Open Networks iConnectAccess621 under Linux

2006-03-24 Thread Simon Males
Tom Massey wrote: Morning, Does anybody have any information about whether this ADSL router works with Linux? From my reading, it seems that it would work fine, just plug into the Ethernet port and use the web interface to configure rather than the Windows software, but I don't know enough

Re: [SLUG] Open Networks iConnectAccess621 under Linux

2006-03-24 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On Friday 24 March 2006 22:50, Simon Males [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Massey wrote: Morning, Does anybody have any information about whether this ADSL router works with Linux? From my reading, it seems that it would work fine, just plug into the Ethernet port and use the web interface

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Jeff Waugh
quote who=Bret Comstock Waldow Linux came in on the GPL Free Software side - not the Open Source side - that's the philosophy and the license chosen. Linus was not bamboozled into this - he's smart and made his choice consciously - and he chose Free Software. He's the founder and the

[SLUG] About joining your business

2006-03-24 Thread Caroline Harper
Hi there, You emailed your business details to me a few months ago. Sorry I didn't join then but I am ready again now. Would you please send me an email with details how to join your business? Thanks Love Caroline -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/

[SLUG] wlan-linux-ng Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread Howard Lowndes
Has anyone tried compiling the first under the second. I tried last night and I guess some of the Linux headers have changed - again. -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a

[SLUG] Upgrading Xen Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread Howard Lowndes
Has anyone any thoughts on this. Guests first or host first? -- Howard. LANNet Computing Associates - Your Linux people http://lannetlinux.com When you want a computer system that works, just choose Linux; When you want a computer system that works, just, choose Microsoft. -- Flatter

Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Xen Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread O Plameras
Howard Lowndes wrote: Has anyone any thoughts on this. Guests first or host first? You have to supply us with some details, like: 1. What did you use to compile... Did you use the .gz distribution ? or SRC.RPM distribution ? 2. What errors and/or warnings did you get ? 3. In situations

Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Xen Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread O Plameras
O Plameras wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: Has anyone any thoughts on this. Guests first or host first? You have to supply us with some details, like: 1. What did you use to compile... Did you use the .gz distribution ? or SRC.RPM distribution ? 2. What errors and/or warnings did you get ?

Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Xen Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 08:25:47AM +1100, Howard Lowndes wrote: Has anyone any thoughts on this. Guests first or host first? Shrug, host first I guess -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs: http://slug.org.au/faq/mailinglists.html

Re: [SLUG] Open Networks iConnectAccess621 under Linux

2006-03-24 Thread Simon Males
The Web interface in my old D-Link DSL-302G ADSL modem/router only works with IE. All other Web browsers get a blank page or fail to authenticate properly. I have no idea how they managed to pull that off - it feels almost deliberate. To change the settings, I had to either reboot to Windows

[SLUG] SSL Certificates - A Scum ?

2006-03-24 Thread Philip Greggs
I'm sick and exhausted. For one and only one reason. I'm paying thousands of dollars for the damn ssl certificates. Can some one in plain English explain to me why should I pay that much money and what am I paying for exactly? That some company says - yes he is who he says he is? Common, this

Re: [SLUG] System Boot failure.

2006-03-24 Thread Ken Foskey
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 19:01 +1100, bill wrote: Suddenly my Kanotix 2005-4 (Debian) hdd install hangs on boot. It gets to Starting the nmb and smb daemons and then hangs trying to load whatever is next ( kdm I think). It may have something to do with my failed attempt at installing the ATI

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Ken Foskey
On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 10:04 +1200, Bret Comstock Waldow wrote: When this group decided to advertise itself as a Linux user's group. Linux is GPL, not Open Source. Open Source allows restriction, GPL works decidedly against restriction - they are aligned by accident in some ways, and

Re: [SLUG] Open Networks iConnectAccess621 under Linux

2006-03-24 Thread jam
On Friday 24 March 2006 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Massey wrote: Morning, Does anybody have any information about whether this ADSL router works with Linux? From my reading, it seems that it would work fine, just plug into the Ethernet port and use the web interface to

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread jam
On Friday 24 March 2006 21:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The discussion we've had so far went like this:  * RTFM  * Please don't use that term, it's inappropriate  * It is not inappropriate  * Yes, it is, and here's why: [...]  * meltdown And in the meltdown everyone seems to ignore the

Re: [SLUG] Upgrading Xen Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread Howard Lowndes
O Plameras wrote: Howard Lowndes wrote: Has anyone any thoughts on this. Guests first or host first? You have to supply us with some details, like: 1. What did you use to compile... Did you use the .gz distribution ? or SRC.RPM distribution ? They're all RPMs - standard with FC 2.

Re: [SLUG] SSL Certificates - A Scum ?

2006-03-24 Thread Howard Lowndes
This might help http://www.openca.org/ Philip Greggs wrote: I'm sick and exhausted. For one and only one reason. I'm paying thousands of dollars for the damn ssl certificates. Can some one in plain English explain to me why should I pay that much money and what am I paying for exactly? That

Re: [SLUG] SSL Certificates - A Scum ?

2006-03-24 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 10:22:34AM +1100, Philip Greggs wrote: I'm sick and exhausted. For one and only one reason. I'm paying thousands of dollars for the damn ssl certificates. Can some one in plain English explain to me why should I pay that much money and what am I paying for

[SLUG] Re: System Boot failure - SOLVED

2006-03-24 Thread bill
Thanks for the reply Ken. Had only just solved it myself. Checked /etc/init.d/rc5.d and found that symlink to Samba script and following symlink to kdm script had both been given a 99 priority. Removed @99samba and laptop booted ok. Thanks Bill Suddenly my Kanotix 2005-4 (Debian) hdd

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 01:25, Jeff Waugh wrote: This isn't censorship. I'm surprised you don't think telling people what they can and can't say is censorship. Telling people what they can and can't say is censorship. It isn't censorship because you do or don't have a good motivation, it's

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Bret Comstock Waldow
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 22:43, James Purser wrote: snip useless anti MS drivel useless and drivel, eh? Thanks for that opinion. When I last lived in Sydney, I shared a house with several other fellows. We got on well for several months, although this one who arrived after me had rather poor

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread O Plameras
Jeff Waugh wrote: snipped The discussion we've had so far went like this: * RTFM * Please don't use that term, it's inappropriate * It is not inappropriate some why's given from the postings, as I can summarise them: 1. RTFM was used in the appropriate context. The target person

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
O Plameras wrote: snip Oscar, I no longer wish to read any emails from you to this list. I am therefore taking steps so that I don't have to. If anyone else feels this way I encourage them to do the same. I will also be taking the same steps for Bret Comstock Waldow. Regards, Erik --

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread James Purser
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 15:21 +1100, O Plameras wrote: 2. USENET accepted it even before Linux and still accepts it. Linux inherits the traditions and legacies of USENET. Good for usenet. Usenet also accepts naked pictures, stories about sex and illegal software, should the SLUG list do this

[SLUG] WOW

2006-03-24 Thread Derik Gillespie
You have got to look at this. Its outstanding. Its a major new business.= http://www.legalrevenueservice.com Greta Want to not receive info in the future? [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs:

[SLUG] /bin/install

2006-03-24 Thread Alan L Tyree
I am trying to compile a program that complains about /bin/install being missing. Is this a standard program? I'm running Ubuntu Breezy. Thanks for any help (even if it is only RTFM!!) Cheers, Alan -- Alan L Tyreehttp://www2.austlii.edu.au/~alan Tel: +61 2 4782 2670

Re: [SLUG] /bin/install

2006-03-24 Thread Matthew Hannigan
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 05:00:11PM +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote: I am trying to compile a program that complains about /bin/install being missing. Is this a standard program? I'm running Ubuntu Breezy. It's /usr/bin/install on my machine (fedora) It's pretty standard. If the system doesn't have

Re: [SLUG] /bin/install

2006-03-24 Thread Alan L Tyree
On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:04:43 +1100 Matthew Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 05:00:11PM +1100, Alan L Tyree wrote: I am trying to compile a program that complains about /bin/install being missing. Is this a standard program? I'm running Ubuntu Breezy. It's

Re: [SLUG] Interesting view (Printer Compatibility)

2006-03-24 Thread telford
On Fri, Mar 24, 2006 at 09:49:19AM +1100, Benno wrote: But still at the end of the day your general consumer (i.e: target of the desktop), doesn't know, or want to know, and often will just take whatever the sales droid at the local Hardly Normal tells them, which is most likely going to

[SLUG] Ubuntu Flight 5 - blank screen

2006-03-24 Thread Bruce Badger
In trying to solve a problem with recording sound using the built in mic on my Thinkpad T21, I thought I'd give the latest flight of Ubuntu a try. I burned the Flight 5 Ubuntu CD and went through the install to the point where the CD was ejected and the system rebooted. Everything seemed OK up

Re: [SLUG] Linux user's group?

2006-03-24 Thread O Plameras
James Purser wrote: This is my last post to you on this matter. In keeping with the traditions of Usenet (as you wish we would) I shall now call you a nazi and invoke Godwins law. This is a joke ? I do not know where you got that idea unless you're out of your mind. O Plameras -- SLUG -

Re: [SLUG] /bin/install

2006-03-24 Thread Erik de Castro Lopo
Alan L Tyree wrote: I am trying to compile a program that complains about /bin/install being missing. Is this a standard program? I'm running Ubuntu Breezy. The command 'dpkg -S' tells me its in the coreutils package: [EMAIL PROTECTED] dpkg -S /usr/bin/install coreutils:

Re: FW: [SLUG] Fedora Core 5

2006-03-24 Thread telford
On Wed, Mar 22, 2006 at 04:33:41PM +1100, Jamie Wilkinson wrote: SNUH. SLUG's Not Usenet. I hope not, because Usenet is pretty much dead after the spammers trashed it. -- SLUG - Sydney Linux User's Group Mailing List - http://slug.org.au/ Subscription info and FAQs:

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Flight 5 - blank screen

2006-03-24 Thread Peter Hardy
On Sat, 2006-03-25 at 17:46 +1100, Bruce Badger wrote: When the system rebooted, I saw the graphical boot stuff with the messages scrolling on the brown screen under the Ubuntu logo. Then the screen went blank except for a non-blinking cursor in the top left of the screen, then I heard the

Re: [SLUG] Ubuntu Flight 5 - blank screen

2006-03-24 Thread David
On Sat, Mar 25, 2006 at 05:46:00PM +1100, Bruce Badger wrote: In trying to solve a problem with recording sound using the built in mic on my Thinkpad T21, I thought I'd give the latest flight of Ubuntu a try. I burned the Flight 5 Ubuntu CD and went through the install to the point where