[RCSE] Plane in a tree record?

2004-08-27 Thread Bill Swingle
Yesterday, I found myself wondering; how long has an airplane stayed in a tree before being retrieved? The thought came to me as I happened to pass the large oak tree that has held my plane for the last 13 days! Anyone think they might be holding the record? Bill Swingle Janesville, CA RCSE-Lis

[RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to try to avoid in the future

2004-08-27 Thread Dave Brombaugh
Folks, I posted this to my club's email list last week, and someone suggested I post it here as well. A week ago today, I was out flying my Compulsion (I loved that plane! :-(). It was a good distance away, but still well within radio range. Clouds were coming in - still high in the sky, but th

[RCSE] Re: F3B Batteries at the Nats

2004-08-27 Thread Mrmaseratiman
Joe Wurts wrote: (about rental winch batteries)   Dave,Any chance of the same deal being available for the TS?JoePS  We will remember to finish off the charge on the batteries before usingthem...  :-)Joe, the answer is yes.   Rental of batteries for the team select in Oct is still $20.00 each. T

RE: [RCSE] JR 610 M Receiver

2004-08-27 Thread Barrett Stridiron
The earlier short-antenna version of this receiver was *horrible*. Terrible range, glitchy, etc. Karlton called it the "splat-master" - the title was well-deserved. JR has had a quiet recall out on these. They replace the antenna with a standard-length one and retune them - after which they wor

Re: [RCSE] Re: What is the real range of our TXs?

2004-08-27 Thread Doug McLaren
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 10:23:31AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: |I am probably wrong on this issue, but I thought Maynard Hill held the |altitude record many years ago with an RC model using military ( Navy) |radar In excess of 20,000 ft (3.78 mi.). http://records.fai.org:81/pilot.

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to try to avoid in the future

2004-08-27 Thread Jim Monaco
I'll contribute the Skip Miller "I ain't got it" procedure which I have successfully used. Slowly pull and hold full up elevator - the plane will typically start looping and flopping about the sky giving lots of different angles and reflections of the plane. It also does not come down too fast.

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to try to avoid in the future

2004-08-27 Thread Bill Swingle
My sympathies! He's what I've done in the past. However, the planes were usually close to the ground when I lost sight of them. Once, all I had to go on was my kid saying he'd "lost his plane" and had no IDEA where it was, but that's another story. -Define an area where you're 90% confident the pl

[RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it

2004-08-27 Thread GordySoar
The Picolario is more than meets the eye or ear.   While it does have altitude reporting, vario and battery voltage reporting and some memory functions as well, it has one feature that is not as well understood.   Thats its 'glitch' warning system.   When a glitch happens, the girl reports "at

Re: [RCSE] Plane in a tree record?

2004-08-27 Thread Tom Broeski
9 months 8 days before it was retrieved. Tree was really only a small bush, but far away from where I thought it landed. T T T&G 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356 fax 943-4178 540 943-3356 - Original Message - From: "Bill Swingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it

2004-08-27 Thread James V. Bacus
That's a cool story, I hadn't heard that before. The other thing the Picolario can do is if you have a PCM system, it can be set up to transmit "Attention!" anytime your system goes into fail-safe or fail-hold. At 11:28 AM 8/27/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Picolario is more than meets the e

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to try to avoid in the future

2004-08-27 Thread Doug McLaren
On Fri, Aug 27, 2004 at 08:41:02AM -0700, Dave Brombaugh wrote: | I spent the rest of the afternoon searching for it. One thing I learned | - a 3M plane is pretty big when it's nearby, but when it's potentially | lost in a huge space, it suddenly seems awful tiny. That's gotta hurt. I feel for

[RCSE] "I ain't got it" procedure. (I can't see it.)

2004-08-27 Thread Bill Swingle
We should all have a chosen "I ain't got it" procedure. Don't leave the choosing until you loose sight of it. However the specific procedure should be chosen based on the plane's behavior. Try all methods you can think of. Select the one that has minimal decent, straightest decent, max flash, what

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it

2004-08-27 Thread James V. Bacus
Actually, I stated that wrong, it won't say "attention!" but will give you an announcement that you didn't initiate, here is how you do it... (From the Picolario user manual, which is online) Failsafe detection with PCM receiver   They have a predefined setting. You can use the requested altitud

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it

2004-08-27 Thread Bill Swingle
DIRECTIONAL!! Anything that transmits a signal from the plane and could be received directionally would be priceless. Bill Swingle RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscrib

RE: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it

2004-08-27 Thread KC
Hopefully you'll be able to open this link. The ESL has been using this system for a long time and it seems expensive - until the first time you need one. http://forums.flyesl.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=95 Kerry > > > DIRECTIONAL!! > > > > Anything that transmits a signal from the plane and could

Re: [RCSE] Loss of airplane, and - how to find it

2004-08-27 Thread Peter
More Piccolario stories, I did loss my 2m Duck a week ago. With the Piccolario reporting, I was going in. As the plane got closer to the ground (full crow) the voice became more distorted. On the ground It reported 4 feet. I lost the signal temporally walking closer to the plane. This is a good thi

Re: [RCSE] "I can't see it."

2004-08-27 Thread AMA3655
What is the longest time between the time that a person has lost sight of their plane and then regained sight of it and brought it down safely. Buddy Roos I lost sight of an old Addiction for several minutes one afternoon. It was way high, and the durn thing bladed out on me getting back to th

Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Ben Diss
What makes me even more spit'n mad, is that if I get tapped on the shoulder for flying a frisbee in a designated no-fly zone, I'll lose my FAA issue pilot's license. That's right, I don't have to be operating a real airplane for them to revoke it. So, next week I can hardly get to work. If I

Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Kevin Sheen
If you'd read past the first paragraph you'd probably see if for yourself: http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa2.htm Chime this, pal. Kevin At 10:11 PM 8/27/2004 -0400, Ben Diss wrote: >I have no idea where you got that. Here is the TFR in effect in the NYC area from >Aug 30 - Se

RE: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Sheldon - YNT uDesign
Sure looks like it DOES to me! Thanks for posting the pertinent section Kevin! -Original Message-From: Kevin Sheen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:48 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04Really??Other Unauthoriz

Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Ben Diss
Sheldon- This section does not appear ANYWHERE in the TFR. While I agree that the TFR does contain the words "model aircraft" I fail to see why the AMA doesn't want us to fly. -Ben Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote: Sure looks like it DOES to me! Thanks for posting the pertinent section Kevin!

Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Jerry Miller
Ben, You may be pissed at the AMA for 'butting' in, but remember they are the organization that regulates our model flying operations, IN COORDINATION with the FAA. So my advice to you is, go ahead and fly where ever you want to, just don't cause any problems, and if you do, don't come crying

RE: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Sheldon - YNT uDesign
I'm just conjecturing but maybe we're in a "gray" area at this time and the government has yet place us "officially" under their jurisdiction (FAA)? Under the banner of "national security", etc the government can and probably would start considering our hobby...Not a good thing for us. I don't know

Re: [RCSE] "NEW LSF 2 !"

2004-08-27 Thread James V. Bacus
Congrats, good going Gordy!!! (nice job Marc)  8-) At 08:47 PM 8/27/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it was windy and hot at the louisville field, Marc Gellart calls this morning and says he's coming my way"get the winch tuned up!'.   We get out there at about 5pm and its blowing and steamy.   

Re: [RCSE] "I can't see it."

2004-08-27 Thread James V. Bacus
At 09:20 PM 8/27/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I lost sight of an old Addiction for several minutes one afternoon. It was way high, and the durn thing bladed out on me getting back to the field. I searched the skies for a few minutes, and finally gave it up. I was loading the truck and just happe

[RCSE] Final MSL Contest 2004

2004-08-27 Thread Mrmaseratiman
 On September 25th, 2004, the Greater Detroit Soaring and Hiking Society, better known as the GDSHS, will host the final MSL, Michigan Soaring League, event of the year, at Addison Oaks Park, 9 miles north of Rochester, MI. Four classes will be flown.        Unlimited       Two Meter

Re: [RCSE] Re: F3B Batteries at the Nats

2004-08-27 Thread Daryl Perkins
This is simply an fyi, and is in no means intended to be a "slam." Be careful about expecting a "full charge" on the batteries. Full charge to a battery supplier seems to mean that it will start your car once. The batteries we picked up for F3B at the Nats were good for one, maybe two launche

RE: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04

2004-08-27 Thread Tom Kallevang
Go back a few months and read Dave Brown's President's Column in Model Aviation ... he speaks of working with the government on model issues like shipping on airliners, etc. Makes sense that AMA has been so successful in collaborating with gov't due to the demonstated ability to self-regulate. Yo

Re: [RCSE] Re: F3B Batteries at the Nats

2004-08-27 Thread Mrmaseratiman
I wasn't aware that the batteries as delivered were really not fully charged at the Nats. I'll see if I can get that handled by Interstate but in place of that maybe I can arrange for the batteries to be fully charged by the facilities personel before distribution.   Thanks for the heads up on th

[RCSE] "I ain't got it, I can't see" - How we found it

2004-08-27 Thread Tom Hoopes
Hi All, Joe Rodriguez's recount of my stupidity on practice day at Visalia was pretty close to fact, although the outcome was dumb luck, no divine force ;-) My second stroke of great luck and perhaps further bewilderment of Joe Rodriguez occurred a year later at the US F3J team selections held o