[RCSE] Queen Bee FS

2005-02-04 Thread TJB
I made a change. Buy the New Queen BEE for $150 and get the other wings free You can sell them of give them away, but this is a package deal. If you don't want the other wings, I will give them away for you. http://adesigner.com/hobbies/DEALS.HTM TG 32 Mount View Dr Afton, VA 22920 540 943-3356

[RCSE] FS NIB Mystery Ship

2005-02-04 Thread kharig
The last of my sailplane clearance sale NIB Major Hobby Mystery Ship $175 shipped http://www.majorhobby.com/Sailplane...ery%20Ship.html Details Wing Span 118 in. (3 Meter) Wing Area 973 sq. in. Airfoil SD-7037 Flying Weight 76 to 84 oz. Approx. Wing Loading 10 to 12 oz. range Control

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread MSu1049321
The only way to settle this is if some kit manufacturer (perhaps one created just for this purpose) volunteers to become the test case and get sued by Lockmart, or counter-sue them. If we all contributed a dollar or two to a legal defense fund, we could keep it going for the several years it

[RCSE] Gordy Lawyers

2005-02-04 Thread rsiegel
Elitist, condescending, and self righteous? Sounds like Gordy's ready to run for President! I've flown slope with Gordy at Frankfort, KY. It's conveniently located next to the State Forensics lab, since he occasionally whacks other flyers with foam! Ask my bro! ;-) It would be a major

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Tim Bennett
I beg to differ. There is another potentially cheaper and quicker fix. The issue is that the historic military aircraft that were developed with public moneys are being claimed as the private property of Lockheed Martin and other military contractors. The question of fact is the ownership of

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Grampy
Tim Bennett wrote: The American people paid for it and should own the rights to what they paid for. Congress can, and should, fix this with the stroke of a pen. Write to your congressmen and senators making this argument. How can they possibly oppose it? Are you kidding. Please remember

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Jeff Steifel
I would like to agree but I am not sure I can. The following is mainly copyright and not patent examples. In the software business, if I go to a company and do work for them... any work I do is owned by them. (supports your theory) On the other hand, if the company outsources, and the work is

[RCSE] Lawyers, guns and money....

2005-02-04 Thread Bill H
Geeze can't grown-ups on this exchange take a tounge in cheek joke by Gordy anymore. Anyone that really knows him would call him anything but an Elitist He drives a pickup truck for gosh sakes! Bill Heishman RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Doug McLaren
On Fri, Feb 04, 2005 at 08:42:38AM -0600, Tim Bennett wrote: | I beg to differ. There is another potentially cheaper and quicker | fix. The issue is that the historic military aircraft that were | developed with public moneys are being claimed as the private | property of Lockheed Martin and

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread RCsoarnut
It's winter, Isn't it? Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com

RE: [RCSE] Lawyers, guns and money....

2005-02-04 Thread Brian Courtice
There was nothing tongue in cheek about it. He claimed the subject matter was off topic and that people anyone who joined the thread was spamming the list. Then he started talking about his stork. That's called deliberate thread hijacking. I guess I should be amused. -Original Message-

[RCSE] Lawyers? Kits? Soaring?

2005-02-04 Thread Harley Michaelis
I'll bet far fewer than who are responding to this issue have built a kit in recent years or ever intend to. Is anyone actually building something for soaring? Tell us about it and what your experience with it is. That could be a worthy contribution. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model

[RCSE] Choosing Stab Sections

2005-02-04 Thread Adam Till \(Cal\)
Hi folks, Hoping someone can give me a hand with the particularities of proper stab/fin airfoil design. I remember understanding the concepts behind it at one point, but I've since forgotten, and would appreciate a refresher (the archives for these lists didn't help I'm afraid). I'm designing a

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers are killing the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread James V. Bacus
First real sign of GPS on this forum I have seen this winter season (Grumpy Pilot Syndrome) P.S. Shame on you, Gordy! 8-) At 10:27 AM 2/4/2005, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's winter, Isn't it? Denny Maize Polecat Aero 717-789-0146 www.polecataero.com Jim

[RCSE] Re: [RCSE ] Is anyone actually building something?

2005-02-04 Thread Mike Remus
Yes Harley, some of us are building. I am building a Bubble Dancer that was initially started two years ago. I have both outer wing tips done and I am sort of hung up on the wing joiners. I should have more information coming and get on with it by monday. I chose this project because there was

[RCSE] Re: [RCSE ] Is anyone actually building something?

2005-02-04 Thread D Hauch
I'm on my forth plane in less then two weeks. Built a Super-V Addiction, Trinity f3b, and a Emerald, and starting a LEG Mig-3, this are all customers planes though, none for me. :-( Dave Hauch Mich. - Original Message - From: Mike Remus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED];

Re: [RCSE] Choosing Stab Sections

2005-02-04 Thread Dick Williamson
Title: Re: [RCSE] Choosing Stab Sections Hi Adam, You might consider Mark Drela's HT series airfoils. These are designed to have minimal dead band. http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/drela-airfoilshop/markdrela-ag-ht-airfoils.htm Dick Hi folks, Hoping someone can give me a hand with the

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers? Kits? Soaring?

2005-02-04 Thread Albert E. Wedworth
Hi Harley Al, AKA The Bag Lady I'm building a 5m Ventus 2ax from Icare. Two more servos and some radio programming and I'm in the air.. She's a beautiful ship all molded Everything is beautifully done full cockpit interments, the Molding is excellent! Scale detail is ausom Wheels everywhere.

[RCSE] Lawyers VS the Kit bidness

2005-02-04 Thread Ed Berris
Well, guys, since I started this thread I'd like to suggest we retire it now. I never anticipated so much reaction. Naturally, I did expect to hear from Gordy but then Gordy can always be expected to let me have it and anyone else whose name he sees just after having one of his PMS spells.

[RCSE] Lockheed Martin is Attempting to kill the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Grumpy pilot syndrome...nope. Well, maybe for a couple of you ;^) Like I stated when this very worthy subject came up a while ago; Letting your state representative know just how innappropriate this is, and at the same time cc LM, the squeeky wheel may get the grease. The fact the original

Re: [RCSE] Lawyers VS the Kit bidness

2005-02-04 Thread Tom H. Nagel
Yes, I too offer my most sincere apologies for aggravating this lawyer bashing thread. After all, we have high elected officials to do that for us. I am working on a plane, too---a sorta scale PSS model of SpaceShipOne: P1. Does it sound like I'm pissed? Only if it doesn't fly. Tom

Re: [RCSE] Lockheed Martin is Attempting to kill the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Jim Deck
Simon, I think there are a few venues to bring this situation to light: CBS 60 Minutes Jay Leno Dave Letterman Each of these is accessible via email. Maybe if the situation got very public exposure I know I would mind seeing Jay or Dave listen to Don Stackhouse of DJ

[RCSE] LSF Goal Weekend Announcement

2005-02-04 Thread George Voss
LSF Goal Weekend May 13-15 2005 Wilson Lake, Wilson KS The primary focus will be to those needing level 45 slope tasks. If the wind doesn't blow, we will have multiple 3 round contests to gain LSF points. Entry fee for the entire weekend is $20, payable in advance ONLY. No monies can change

[RCSE] Kit designs for sale

2005-02-04 Thread George Voss
It's with great distress I have to announce the sale of BAe Hawk and One Fun designs rights. Unfortunately my health issues have gotten to the point that I can't get kits out in a timely fashion, which is most unfair to the customers. Along with the kit rights, molds, cores etc., I'll have a

[RCSE] For Trade Aveox 12LMR

2005-02-04 Thread George Voss
Like new Aveox 12LMR with only 1 run on it. Will trade straight across for a 7 or 10LMR, or a Hacker similar to the 7 or 10LMR. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe

[RCSE] Organic 2M For Sale

2005-02-04 Thread George Voss
Like New Organic 2M. Brand new wings and tail, with an extra tail, with a used fuselage. The fuse has 2 small cracks that have been repaired with CA. No servos. $350+ shipping. gv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL

Re: [RCSE] LSF Goal Weekend Announcement

2005-02-04 Thread Pat McCleave
George, Have you consulted the Governing Body of the LSF to see if it is kosher to have multiple 3 round contests on the same day or weekend in order to achieve LSF Points and wins? I am not trying torain on your parade at all because I will do my best to attend and support your event. I am

Re: [RCSE] Re: [RCSE ] Is anyone actually building something?

2005-02-04 Thread Thomas Koszuta
I'm building a 2M. Poly with flaps. Wings are obechi over foam with a CF/Balsa/Fiberglass spar. Designing the fuse right now. Will probably loosely copy the Spirit tail feathers. I used the general plans of Mark Drela's Allegro spar with the vertical balsa. Came out a bit heavy due to my

[RCSE] The kit designs are spoken for pending funds

2005-02-04 Thread George Voss
JP has stepped up to take these 2 great flying kits. Pending funds of course. gv RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages must be sent in text only format with MIME

[RCSE] Building something

2005-02-04 Thread nknorrisottawa
G'day Harley, As you know I am putting together a Jouster variant, it is going slwly but surely, that [EMAIL PROTECTED] stroke has slowed me down, and I am assembling a Sapphire. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL

[RCSE] Re: [RCSE ] Is anyone actually building something?

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Jacobson
I'll add my voice to the building chorus - despite the fact it's mid-summer we've just experience our coldest and wettest February day on record. I've recently discovered RC gliding and have embarked on building my first bird, a Southern Sailplanes T-Bird F/R. It's a locally produced

[RCSE] FS: Multiplex IPD, 9-CH, Rx

2005-02-04 Thread jjpadilla29
2 Multiplex, Dual Conversion, FM, Reciever, 9-CH DS-IPD Used Very Little, Factory Tested $60 each pics available upon request RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe

Re: [RCSE] Lockheed Martin is Attempting to kill the kit business

2005-02-04 Thread Lee Cox
AMEN Simon, It seems to me there would be some? at least 1 or 2 RC pilots in this group that would have some input regarding saving our hobby and not just setting back and letting the Corporate attorneysget away with pushing this Bull S. LEE Simon Van Leeuwen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Grumpy

RE: [RCSE] lawyers and kits: Off topic? Not!

2005-02-04 Thread Brian Courtice
Brian, Well said, but as I have been told by many wise people, he feeds off of this stuff. Patrick Conway You're probably right Patrick. Ive always believed that if you cant say something nice, dont say anything, so you will very rarely see me posting critical comments. It just really

[RCSE] FS: Digital HiTec Resin Gear Servo's + Programmer

2005-02-04 Thread jjpadilla29
6 HS-5975HB Digital, Coreless Servo's, 91 oz @ 4.8V Brand New in Box, + HI-Tec Programmer/Servo Tester Paid over $500. sell all for $325 + S.H. pics available upon request.. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL

[RCSE] Harley asked to see our recent projects.

2005-02-04 Thread Brian Courtice
Since you asked Harley, here are a few of mine. :) http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=283674 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=309605highlight=epperon http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=161286highlight=epperon

[RCSE] Building?

2005-02-04 Thread Jack Womack
I have just this evening finished a Houston Hawk. I'm building a Schweizer 1-36 and a Grand Esprit, but I think my reputation is shot, now that I've bought a moldie... I guess you could call it a moldie... Jack Womack __ Do you Yahoo!? Read

RE: [RCSE] lawyers and kits: Off topic? Not!

2005-02-04 Thread JIM EALY
Colleagues: I have read this thread also with great interest. I was also surprised to read some of the unfair comments about the care and feeding of kit builders or those who support fair play. I've posted on several occasions a request to not buy plans from several EBAYERS who not only pirate

Re: [RCSE] Re: [RCSE ] Is anyone actually building something?

2005-02-04 Thread Thomas Koszuta
IVE GOT ONE OF THOSE!! Needs spoilers or at least a good skeg. Tom Koszuta Western New York Sailplane and Electic Flyers Buffalo, NY - Original Message - From: Paul Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've recently discovered RC gliding and have embarked on building my first bird, a

[RCSE] Fw: Lawyers? Kits? Soaring?

2005-02-04 Thread Harley Michaelis
Guys. . .please note my message below suggested to telling *us* about it. I wasn't expecting reports to me. Of course, I'm always glad to hear that someone is using or developing building skills. - Original Message - From: Harley Michaelis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent:

Re: [RCSE] Harley asked to see our recent projects.

2005-02-04 Thread Harley Michaelis
Wow, Brian. . .you really have some impressive stuff in those pictures. Thanks for passing it on to the guys. Hope it inspires some to do some building! - Original Message - From: Brian Courtice [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: soaring@airage.com Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 5:31 PM Subject:

[RCSE] Sagitta XC and Fiberglass fuselage 4 sale

2005-02-04 Thread Ed Berris
I'm selling a NIB Airtronics issued Sagitta XC kit and a Bob Sealy Sagitta XC fuselage. The kit cost is $275 plus actual shipping and the fuselage is $100 if purchased with the kit or $125 if purchased alone. Ed RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and

Re: [RCSE] Re: [RCSE ] Is anyone actually building something?

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Jacobson
At 9:26 PM -0500 4/2/05, Thomas Koszuta wrote: IVE GOT ONE OF THOSE!! Needs spoilers or at least a good skeg. What's your opinion of the T-Bird? Apart from the spoiler/skeg do you have any recommended tweaks or tips? I'm planning on flying it as is for the moment, and once I've accumulated some

RE: [RCSE] Harley asked to see our recent projects.

2005-02-04 Thread Brian Courtice
The next project I do is going to be a wingeron. I've been infatuated with wingerons ever since Harley published the Orca way back when. I plan to push my own buildings skills envelope on this one, because I will be giving vacuum bagging a try for the first time. The plane isn't even started

[RCSE] Ideas needed to fix bad paint spots

2005-02-04 Thread Harley Michaelis
What do those of you do, who bag wings in which the waxed carriers have been painted, when the paint does not transfer in a spot or flakes off? How do you fill the spot, fill any exposed weave level it to adjacent paint, prime, repaint, avoid overspray and finish it off to look uniformly smooth

[RCSE] Wurts on The Military Channel

2005-02-04 Thread David A . Enete
Did anyone notice Joe flying (monitoring) what looked like a PicoJet Combat UAV on the Military Channel tonight? - David RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send subscribe and unsubscribe requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please note that subscribe and unsubscribe messages

[RCSE] Re: Copying Designs/Plans

2005-02-04 Thread Simon Van Leeuwen
Hi Jim, I respectfully suggest not confusing those who may copy existing designs by way of plans etc with the original intent of this thread. Granted, it may be considered incorrect or downright wrong by some, to copy or worse plagiarize anothers work. The issue of copyright (the validity of

[RCSE] Building Something Too

2005-02-04 Thread Loren Blinde
I have my second Genie LT/S close to completion. In 30 years of flying, it's the only plane I've ever built that I wanted to build again. Now I know how Harley can build 27 (or whatever he's up to now) Genies. After the first one, the next 26 are a breeze :-) Loren RCSE-List facilities

Re: [RCSE] . . . recent projects, SWC

2005-02-04 Thread Paul Emerson
Getting closed to finished on my Allegro Lite (after 14 months of hard labor): http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles/allegrolite2m/markdrela_allegrolite2m.htm Also restoring/modifying and old Frank Weston WACO Two: http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186540stc=1 Also

[RCSE] Annual Winter Soaring Projects Thread

2005-02-04 Thread Bill H
My winter project was a little different this year... I built a new encoder board and synthesized transmitter board (6 meters) for an old MicroPro 8000. It is now called a MicroStar 2000. It's a cool project for ppl with steady hands and good eyesight. (I used magnifying glasses ;-) Most of the