I have read the Horizon Hobby catalog description and the
material at www.fsone.com but I am laft with three questions:
1. How well does FS One represent real live dynamic soaring?
2. What are the chances an experienced thermal and slope
sailplane pilot could actually learn DS on this simula
Hi guys,
I had some time to check out HKM's new DS version of the M Charisma.
Its not a mini its 2.6m, around 100" I guess.
Cross tail, three layers of carbon, the stabs are like steel, but
purty.
The surfaces are rock hard too, and it is an all business three piece
wing.
I guess its
Predicted new DS equipment - a portable hard shelter, maybe a "bulletproof"
glass turret for the flyer and a buddy or two..
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Anybody know where to get a license plate holder touting DS? Something like
"Dynamic Soaring - It will change your life!" or the like?
Ask Dave Reese perhaps?
http://members.tripod.com/douglasturner/0abd4ee0.jpg
http://www.reeseproductions.com/
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Anybody know where to get a license plate holder touting DS? Something like
"Dynamic Soaring - It will change your life!" or the like?
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You bet!
Today a friend of mine went to our Slope in Frankfort (that's Kentucky) to do some DSing.
When he forgot to call the rest of us, we threatened to sue him but since none of us are lawyers, and couldn't sign on to get sage opinions from guys who should be building or flying on the RCSE, inst
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>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (sl33pdirt)
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Schuler), [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: [RCSE] DS foamies
>Date: Tue, 14 May 2002 19:38:13 -0400
>
>www.northcountyflyingmachines.com
>
>Bluto!
>
Date: 14 May 2002 15:40:36 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RCSE] DS foamies
>
> I'm curious as to what foamie people are DSing with these days. Now's
> your chance to sound off about your favorite backside bouncer.
>
> The only model I've heard much abou
I'm curious as to what foamie people are DSing with these days. Now's
your chance to sound off about your favorite backside bouncer.
The only model I've heard much about in this category is the JW as it
seems to be the most populer. Of course popularity doesn't always mean
something's good, just
www.northcountyflyingmachines.com
Bluto!
Andy Schuler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>I'm curious as to what foamie people are DSing with these days. Now's
>your chance to sound off about your favorite backside bouncer.
>
>The only model I've heard much about in this category is the JW as it
>se
Pictures and video are on GliderKing. I'm adding some more video as I learn
how to fly Final Cut (Mac), but enjoy the two that are on the site. One is a
fly-by of Cape Blanco Oregon with a couple of DS turns for good measure. The
other is of Tom Seitz Mojo during one of his slower 150mph runs.
ht
An interesting extract off their excellent web site video promotion:
"Dynamic Soaring continues to grow and evolve. For the first time on
video, see FRONT SIDE dynamic soaring recently discovered."
I was obviously distracted and missed any discussion regarding this -
any other info about this?
urther on the second link. Feel free to ask more questions.
Mike
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From: Monkey King <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 9:41 AM
Subject: Total newbie question (was: Re: [RCSE] DS wing joiners)
> On Fri, 16 Nov 2001,
On Fri, 16 Nov 2001, Winchdoc wrote:
> This message is intended ONLY for those poor souls that are
> hopelessly addicted to that evil back side sort of flying known
> as "DS"
OK, I'm pretty new to all this, and I've figured out most of the
acronyms: LE and TE for leading and trailing edges,
In a message dated 11/8/2001 4:46:24 PM Pacific Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<<
Where can I get a copy of the DS tape I heard the Nashville boys talking
about last Sat?? TNX Brian Smith
>>
Lift ticket, Dave will send you one..
Eric Swenson
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Lift ticket is the way to go. An awesome tape featuring more awesome pilots.
Barry
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From: Brett Jaffee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2001 4:49 PM
To: Brian & Iva Smith
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Ds tape?/
Is there a new
Is there a new one? The ones I know about that feature lots of DS are "Lift Ticket"
(http://www.reeseproductions.com/), and "Endless Lift 2"
(http://www.radiocarbonart.com). The former feature about 40 minutes of solid DS
footage, the later much less.
If it wasn't either of these tapes, plea
Where can I get a copy of the DS tape I heard the Nashville boys talking
about last Sat?? TNX Brian Smith
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So, based on the the text and pdf, it appears that the 2-step theory wins, with a
"kick" occuring at both step 1 and step 4.
Mark Drela wrote:
>
> >I have been trying to work through the concepts and
> >simple physics of their explinations to gain a grasp of how DS works.
> >Well, try as I may
Check the following link for a small clip of DS. It
will make you a believer.
http://www.reeseproductions.com/mpegs/QuickTime/LT1large.html
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>I have been trying to work through the concepts and
>simple physics of their explinations to gain a grasp of how DS works.
>Well, try as I may I can not make the theories work.
>Perhaps you can help me out.
This sketch shows how the airspeed changes during one DS orbit:
http://www.charlesriv
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-Original Message-From: Mike Bailey
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, 24 September 2001
11:38To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: Joe & Jan
WurtsSubject: [RCSE] DS question
My friend and are having a disagreement about how
DS works. Can you guys help s
Hi All,
just put together a site for people who are interested...
www.dynamic-soaring.co.uk
only just registered that so if that doesn't work
http://www.btinternet.com/~adrian.law/DS/
Ade
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Hi Gang,
This is a question for the DS Guru's out there. I am going to scratch build
a plane for DS'ing and would like to know if how big I should make it. I
will probably be DS'ing smaller hills, overpasses, and tree lines which I
assume will have fairly small sweet spots so am leaning toward
The place was Mulahia. The pilot was some guy named Joe something or other.
He's supposedly some big shot; I guess he has won a lot of model airplane
contests. He was kind of a quiet dude. The first I saw him he was preparing
my friend Gerald's very heavy F3b type plane for a flight. He flew it ar
Anyone know where I can down load the 15 minute version of the DS video
for a show and tell at our club meeting
TIA
Norm Donnelly
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Anyone know where I can down load the 15 minute version of the DS video
for a show and tell at our club meeting
TIA
Norm Donnelly
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>Everybody interested in theory of speed- and energy management of
>dynamic soaring have a look at
>www.lfm.mw.tu-muenchen.de/lfm_sources/albatros.html
In a nutshell, this page shows and summarizes the results of
theoretical calculations designed to optimize the DS flight path. In
the graphs,
Everybody interested in theory of speed- and energy management of
dynamic soaring have a look at
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In a message dated 1/2/01 8:45:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: <<
After watching all of Lift Ticket (present from you-know-who!) I gotta find
a DS slope in New England... That video is just beyond belief. If you
don't come away from it panting and drooling you're in the wrong hobby! The
"G
After watching all of Lift Ticket (present from you-know-who!) I gotta find
a DS slope in New England... That video is just beyone belief. If you
don't come away from it panting and drooling you're in the wrong hobby! The
"Got Foam?" bit is just too funny also - the kids just want to see that
s
4x20) but that was what plans called for (and as supplied). Regis
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From: John Baumbach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 1:59 PM
To: Soaring Newsletter
Subject: [RCSE] DS and nylon wing bolts
A buddy of mine took his Opus V into the ground pretty
I had a NSP Micro, the wing flex too much at high speed DS'ing. Also there was no
room in the fuse for ballast.
My Nemesis can DS really well with more than a pound of ballast. The plane is very
stiff.
The Mini-Acacia doesn't seem tough enought for DS and the Mini-Pike is not out yet. I
wa
In a message dated 10/17/00 3:35:29 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
<< There are no words I have at the moment
to describe this, emotions are high! >>
Hey at least you can talk/write. Most DS virgins have trouble talking let
alone formulating complete sentences after the first time. Even seaso
From: James V. Bacus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>
> I just DSed my mini ellipse and Bruces Sledikin, no crashes and I have
One thing to watch when DS'ing the Mini Ellipse is the front
wing attachment - after just one DS session at our local site
a mates almost new Mini Ellipse has stress cracks
Here is a little summary of Dynamic
Soaring.
http://members.tripod.com/douglasturner/id27.htm
Doug Turner
"Buenos DS"
I've been reading tons of posts about Dynamic
Soaring...
Latest, greatest, super high speed,
etc.
But what the heck is it?
Thanks,
Matt
orward
and back element that isn't displayed.
Jim
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From: Matt Lydon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2000 7:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [RCSE] DS DS DS .Exactly what is it
I've been reading tons of posts about
I've been reading tons of posts about Dynamic
Soaring...
Latest, greatest, super high speed,
etc.
But what the heck is it?
Thanks,
Matt
> This is not to say one will not achieve
> some relatively high velocity, as already witnessed.
> In all honesty (as realistically as possible?), how fast is the fastest
> DS A/C going? Anyone?
While I was doing the filming with his camera and with Dieter Mahlein of
Shredair on the radar gun, Pa
From: Mario Marzocchi ( Florence- Italy )
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Thanks for the guy's answers. I am a DS beginner and i want
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Hey guys,
i would like to know what kind of leads and wh
>i been reading the DS messages and getting pretty interested in give it a
try..
>there was a message that sed that while there were people flying the front
part of the slope"i guess the lift zone of the slope"he >was flying the
"back side"is this the rotor area?? i got confused!
>can some bod
Y.K.,
I just learnt to DS 2 days ago, it is so exciting! it really push your plane to its
limit. I have totally lost interest to fly in
the front.
Raymond Wong
Hong Kong
"Y.K.Chan" wrote:
> Why do some go DS?
>
> related questions
> Is it by choice or that is the only way soaring may be
today is my second day of DS. as my skill is getting better, I fly
closer and closer to the ground to take advantage of the dead air. I
must crashed onto the back 50 times already. thanks to my EPP Zagi!
after a while, I was crazy enough to try it with my all molded racer, it
was like night and
At 11:31 AM 1/17/00 -0800, dave smith wrote:
>I think naming the frankfort slope is sort of like "Tagging" it..
> "Steaking your claim" so to speak.
>Is this a necessity I think not.
I was just looking for a name of the place.
"That slope in Frankfort, KY where Gordy flies", is a somewhat
At 09:43 PM 1/16/00 -0500, rsiegel wrote:
Jim Bacus asked if
the Frankfurt slope has a name yet. Haven't heard one yet, but
there are already some legendary stories that might suggest some
derivatives for nomenclature. It's in the backyard of the KY.
Forensic labs - we park in it's lot! Could c
The main failure mode I've been having with DS is the wing falling away
after a tree or ground strike. At the sites here locally, the gradient is
by far best on the backside right near the ground. My planes at higher
velocities have a little yaw instability in the turbulence, and without a
rudde
Dear Fellow RCSE Addicts,
I will be signing off for a few days to have a try at DS here in Ohio.
No not dynamic soaring.
Deer Season, the religious holidays of the redneck sect.
Play nice while I'm gone.
Tom Nagel
Columbus, Ohio
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> Subject: [RCSE] DS layup concerns
>
> In following the JW spreadsheet the layup, the basic schedule will have
> one 4.5 uni carbon on the wing bottom and the wing top will have multiple
> plies building to five 4.5 uni carbon plies towards the root. What
&g
>Hi all,
>
>I want to to try DS'ing on our local (small) hill and would appreciate
>suggestions as to what kind of plane would be appropriate. Has anyone
>DS'd with a red herring? Mog? TG3?
>
>What planes should I be considering? EPP is probably a must and cost
>is also a factor.
>
>TIA,
>
>Ric
Hi all,
I want to to try DS'ing on our local (small) hill and would appreciate
suggestions as to what kind of plane would be appropriate. Has anyone
DS'd with a red herring? Mog? TG3?
What planes should I be considering? EPP is probably a must and cost
is also a factor.
TIA,
Richard
Seattl
At 08:54 PM 10/18/99 -0700, Joe & Jan Wurts wrote:
>PS For those of you that are worried about safety,
>the DS occurring with the composite ships above
>was at about 150 - 200 yds downwind of the slope
>to minimize the risk. It was that good on Sat...
Reaching "missile" speeds. Maybe a self de
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