RE: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-07 Thread Joe G
From: "Andy Frank" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Fly waht you built, not what you brought, that's right "bought". Brought - Bought = Two different things... Me thinks Mr. Frank may need to upgrade the ventilation system in his shop those CA fumes can cause brain freeze... 8^) You say builder = hobby

Re: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-07 Thread James Porter Jr
> >time... You choose to build - more power to you. I choose to fly - that > >does not make me less than you! > > > Maybe, not to you, but to builders, it does. :-). That's certainly your loss and not ours. I can't believe your opinion is very widely supported by other builders. Rob Glover jus

RE: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-07 Thread Douglas, Brent
<> for me, that is a simple answer: I don't have the time / inclination to build everything that I fly. sometimes I build, sometimes I just want to fly - rarely, I get to do both in a week I built hand launch stuff last year, and I liked that I could spend time researching, "fiddling" with

RE: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-07 Thread Monkey King
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Bill Conkling wrote: > The point of all this, . Today, the hobby is, for a lot of people, > flying R/C model aircraft. People today, want instant gratification. Let > some other poor schmuck build the thing, all I want to do is FLY. Not all of us, even newcomers. :>

Re: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-07 Thread John O'Sullivan
For heavens sake Andy give it a break. You have proved without a shadow of doubt to yourself that you are the only one doing it right. Now let the rest of us enjoy the hobby (sport) in whatever fashion we choose!! Andy Frank wrote: > > Only 300-400 molds in my life. Most to tolerances the hobby

RE: Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-07 Thread Andy Frank
>And, exactly how did this thread move from a debate over a rule change >concerning the number of models you could have entered in a contest and >what constitutes a 'model change' to this war of the builders against the >flyers? Because people want to change the rules, because they think it's the

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Naber
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models At 07:01 PM 3/6/2002, Jeff Naber wrote: >Jim, you are obviously a multiple model owner. Not uncommon. Everyone one of my flying buddies is too. >I know, I have seen you >at many contests. Why are you not

Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-06 Thread Pat McCleave
lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 6:46 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models > >Man, since I left this hobby in 1980, things have > >really changed. The lett

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-06 Thread James V. Bacus
At 07:01 PM 3/6/2002, Jeff Naber wrote: >Jim, you are obviously a multiple model owner. Not uncommon. Everyone one of my flying buddies is too. >I know, I have seen you >at many contests. Why are you not willing to use your skill with one >plane design. I thought I was being very clear here,

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Naber
, not picking the right plane out of 14 models you have in the pits. Jeff Naber -Original Message- From: Marc Gellart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2002 7:26 PM To: Jeff Naber; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models Jeff

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-06 Thread Marc Gellart
Jeff wrote: By allowing multiple models not only are you causing an increase in cost to fly the event and be competitive, you are also lessening pilot skill required. The changing conditions are just what is needed to showcase ones skills. Anybody can improve there chances with a model for every

Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-05 Thread Rick and Jill
your best to optimize the rest of the flight window. - Original Message - From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 11:34 AM Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models > At 06:17 A

Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-05 Thread Joe G
to do that on a consistent basis it doesn't matter how many ships you pull out in the morning. Vent finished... Therms, Joe Gullett Spring Hill, Tennessee Original Message Follows From: "Jeff Nibler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [RCSE]

Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-05 Thread Rick and Jill
PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:46 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models > At 08:57 PM 3/4/2002, Jeff Naber wrote: > >I disagree that the rule is broken. It may lead to cheating, but if that > >is what it takes for

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-05 Thread Marc Gellart
Interesting this should come up. As CD for the 2002 NATS HL, I was planning to allow multiple ships for the contest as I did back in 2000. But this was not approved as a deviation of "The" rules of AMA for the NATS. I think in HL multiple ships are very appropriate, reynolds numbers are low and

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-04 Thread James V. Bacus
At 10:32 PM 3/4/2002, Jack Womack wrote: >If I can't beat you >because I'm a better pilot, I'll do it because I have >11 models and I'll fly every one of them until I >do...what's wrong with this picture. I really agree with most of your post, and it was a good one, but the above scenario is not

RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-04 Thread Jack Womack
Man, since I left this hobby in 1980, things have really changed. The letter of the rules has changed, but more importantly, the spirit of the rules has changed. IMHO, not for the better. If I can't beat you because I'm a better pilot, I'll do it because I have 11 models and I'll fly every one of

Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-04 Thread James V. Bacus
At 10:21 PM 3/4/2002, Pat McCleave wrote: >A race team can't go to a back up car but if they do not like the tire >compound they have chosen, they can change it at the first pit stop whether >the tires are worn out or not. You can't get more down the middle of the road than that, with that reply

Re: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models

2002-03-04 Thread Pat McCleave
TED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 10:08 PM Subject: RE: [RCSE] modification of rule 5, number of models > At 08:57 PM 3/4/2002, Jeff Naber wrote: > >I personally think the plane choice is akin to > >choosing the correct tire compound on a race car, you