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Thanks - I'll send them off.
On Sun, 11 Jan 2004, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Sun, Jan 11, 2004 at 05:18:30PM -0500, Jack Gostl wrote:
Just got a bunch of these myself. Are you suggesting that we simply
learn them as spam and ignore them otherwise and then let nature take its
course
Wow. almost a dozen in very little time. Given how well bayes is
working, I might just disable the habeus mark test.
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This is really more of a procmail question, but its part of the process.
If I spot a certain string in the subject line, I'd like to stop the
process and let the mail through without invoking spamassassin. Can anyone
clue me in as to how to do this?
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This is really more of a procmail question, but its part of the process.
If I spot a certain string in the subject line, I'd like to stop the
process and let the mail through without invoking spamassassin. Can anyone
clue me
?
Something to help distinguish between a legit false negative and a
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Theo Van Dinter wrote:
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 10:52:17PM -0500, Jack Gostl wrote:
Possible, but which database? We have many users all with their own? Also,
if its a trashed Bayes db, why does the message go away when I restart
spamd?
If you just went to 2.60
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, David B Funk wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
My bet is that your Bayes database got trashed.
Possible, but which database? We have many users all with their own? Also,
if its a trashed Bayes db, why does the message go away when I restart
spamd
During the install I got this error, not sure what it means.
t/spamd_portok
t/spamd_protocol_10.dubious
Test returned status -1 (wstat 139, 0x8b)
DIED. FAILED tests 1-10
Failed 10/10 tests, 0.00% okay
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On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, David B Funk wrote:
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
My logs are flooded with the following message:
Dec 8 16:55:39 argos spamd[83414]: Use of uninitialized value in numeric
eq (==) at /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/Mail/SpamAssassin/BayesStore.pm
Based on the discussions here and elsewhere, I upgraded by db libs to the
current release, reinstalled DB_File, restarted spamd, and then just for
good measure wiped my Bayes files and my autowhitelist files and ran my
corpus through it.
Here is the output from the process, starting and ending
aren't new. They happen all the time.
Last time this happened I had to rebuild the databases. This time I
thought I'd wait a bit to hear from people before I destroyed the
evidence.
Really is a very annoying problem with a first class product.
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Nope... no such luck.
On Sun, 30 Nov 2003, Pedro Sam wrote:
On November 30, 2003 07:55 am, Jack Gostl wrote:
Well... it happened again. My Bayes files are trashed. No explanation. All
values in sa-learn --dump magic come back zero. No messages of interest
in the debug output of either
of false negatives before I even discover the problem.
Besides, this SHOULDN'T happen.
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On Mon, 24 Nov 2003, Matt Kettler wrote:
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I thought I saw a reference to a letter that SA could automatically
generate upon encountering spam. I've got 2.60 installed
in double-bounces.
I understand. That's one of the things I was worried about. But these
false positives are a problem. I'll grant you that they seem to be running
around 1 in 5,000, but I rigourously retrain my Bayes each night. I'm not
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I'm trying to find the token counts. In version 2.55, what is the
equivalent of:
sa-learn --dump magic
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My current site-wide procmailrc looks like this:
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On Fri, 17 Oct 2003, Chr. von Stuckrad wrote:
On Fri, Oct 17, 2003 at 01:36:30PM -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
... I ran out of space in the file system while doing an
sa-learn, and that was that.
I got rid of that by creating a cronjob which does
the sa-learn often enough to let the journal
, Jeffrey wrote:
If it times out, does spamd decline to markup the header? I would think
that it would mark up with the score that it has, without the timed-out
tests.
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with it for
awhile now.
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On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Colin A. Bartlett wrote:
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All of which makes me wonder exactly who is motivated to fix this mess. I
suppose that any day now someone will say that spam is the engine of
economic recovery. (G)
_We_ are. The more
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bart Schaefer wrote:
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
By the way, there is an interesting article on fighting back by Paul
Graham called Filters That Fight Back.
http://www.paulgraham.com/ffb.html
He basically suggests culling URLs from spam
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By the way, when I say caught, I'm passing in the spam, heaer and all,
that SpamAssassin caught. Maybe this is causing the problem.
On Wed, 1 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
to the end of my user_prefs, and I still get lots of high Bayes scores. Is
that normal? I more than a little surprised
you GET, not
send. The headers are as crucial as the body.
-tom
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To: Matt Kettler
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Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Bayes (again)
By the way, when
. (Problem Exists Between Chair
And Keyboard) My apologies for the confusion I've caused.
I still think the BAYES_99 should be below the cutoff, but I may change my
mind after watching this run with untainted Bayes data.
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non-token data: nham
0.000 0116 0 non-token data: ntokens
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Its as if the only updates were from auto-learn. What am I missing?
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even though that machine also doesn't have a file called db.h
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Question withdrawn. The environment (as in $ENV{}) wasn't set up properly.
On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Jack Gostl wrote:
I'm trying to install DB_File so that we can use Bayes under 2.6, and
during the install I keep getting:
version.c, line 30.10: 1506-296 (S) #include file db.h not found
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community with that kind of sensitivity. My inclination is to
reduce the score on BAYES_99, but I'm open to suggestion.
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During my first test run at an install, I got the following:
t/spamd_allow_user_rulesspamd start failed: log: Insecure directory in
$ENV{PATH} while running with -T switch at /usr/opt/perl5/lib/5.6.0/Cwd.pm
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Mark.
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003, Chris Barnes wrote:
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Anyone have the URL to sign up with the SAProxy mailing list? This
program is driving me nuts. Runs like a champ, then just stops.
This might be a dumb question, but what is SAProxy?
For those out there who
Anyone have the URL to sign up with the SAProxy mailing list? This program
is driving me nuts. Runs like a champ, then just stops.
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of perl doesn't support alarms, so any
DNS timeouts don't work, they just hang infinitely.
It's one of the more well known limitations of ActivePerl that has a
negative impact on SA under windows.
I didn't realize that. Maybe the answer is to just switch from Active
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but it still slips through with 4.5-5.
But, keep it in proportion. I'm still trapping over 98%.
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. That PGP sig buried in HTML sticks out like a sore thumb. The
Bayes attack is tougher, but 3-5 lines of all lower case letters with no
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On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Kettler wrote:
At 08:51 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
That PGP sig buried in HTML sticks out like a sore thumb.
Even better, if you check my post from 6/14, most of these have a PGP
signature block, but are without a begin pgp signed message block..
Try
On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Matt Kettler wrote:
At 09:48 AM 6/26/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
What really worries me is the growing number of messages between 4.5 and
5. Many of these already have a Bayes score of 90+.
Agreed, this is why rule development for SA always has been, and always
-END PGP SIGNATURE-
br
There was also almost seven lines jibberish to throw of the Bayes
recognizer.
The fake signature was a cute idea. I think it has to be incorporated into
the scoring. I'm worried about the gibberish though.
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that much of
spamassassin -- creating a class of 'spam only' rules, then doubling
their points if they contain a PGP sig (valid or not)
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 10:17 AM, Jack Gostl wrote:
A message just slipped through, no text, just an image. It slipped
through
A message just slipped through, no text, just an image. It slipped through
with a ridiculously low score, minus .6
You know better by now :-) That's what you get for using SA 1.1
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fakes could be prosecuted with laws already on
the books, and spam levels would drop dramatically.
Of course there is no political glory in that. No votes. So let's muck up
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
At 08:38 18/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
I've seen this two or three times now, and I'm not sure what to make of
it.
Outward appearance is that we get hit with a ton of spam, or perhaps that
an RBL goes out. I wind up with many copies of spamd
bet that if you shut down as few as ten of these companies you would
cut spam in half.
But we are now way, way, WAY off topic.
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
At 08:38 18/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
I've seen this two or three times now, and I'm not sure what to make of
it.
Outward appearance
On Thu, 19 Jun 2003, Fuzzy Fox wrote:
Jack Gostl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Using Pine, I checked the message ID and scanned the syslog (which
includes both spamd and sendmail entries) and located the message
being handed off to procmail. It wasn't even slightly busy at that
time
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obviously was
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more insight set us straight?
Thanks
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Jack Gostl wrote on Mon, 16 Jun 2003 00:33:10 -0400 (EDT):
Using Pine, I checked the message ID and scanned the syslog (which
includes both spamd and sendmail entries) and located the message being
handed off to procmail. It wasn't even slightly
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On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it,
and manually ran it through spamc -R it got something like a 17.
By now I've run tens of thousands of messages through spamc
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
At 21:54 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
On Mon, 16 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
At 18:22 15/06/03 -0400, Jack Gostl wrote:
I just had a piece of spam slip through with no X-header. When I saved it,
and manually ran it through spamc -R
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Kai Schaetzl wrote:
Jack Gostl wrote on Sat, 7 Jun 2003 22:32:05 -0400 (EDT):
I've got pop3proxy from a site called perlmonk. Not sure if its
official
That's the old name of SAproxy, you shouldn't use it, it's possibly an old
version.
Where can I get the current
On Sun, 8 Jun 2003, Dan McDonald wrote:
Jack Gostl writes:
Yup - download the source and perform a manual install, just like
you did with pop3proxy. Better documentation on how to do this is
needed.
Where do I get that?
There's no source package just yet, but you can check out
Yup - download the source and perform a manual install, just like you
did with pop3proxy. Better documentation on how to do this is needed.
Where do I get that?
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I was hoping to play with SAProxy this weekend. Is therre a way to use it
with norton AV or is it one or the other?
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Corrupted! Reboot universe? (y/n) [y]:
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I installed SAProxy have it working, and its not bad. Is this the place to
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I notice that SAProxy uses version 2.52 of SA. It looks like SA and its
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On Wed, 4 Jun 2003, Olivier Studer wrote:
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I've gone over the OE config a few times, and its OK. The Host Map in
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is not a call I'd
care to make, but you are right about your theorey. The key is that tone
of the letters is one of computer ignorance, yet they found this list,
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then what's the difference between an open list and a closed list? I
assumed it was something like Majordomo where at the very least you want
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On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote:
Jack Gostl wrote:
On Sat, 31 May 2003, Steve Wilson wrote:
My /home/$user/.procmail/rules.rc file is:
:0fw
| /usr/bin/spamc
:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
SPAM
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That now works only if I change line2 to /usr/bin/spamassassin
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From: Jack Gostl [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 5:04 AM
To: Ben Johansen
Subject: Re: SA List
Haven't a clue, I'm related to the list other than posting once in a
while. Why
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