RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

Why not just call the AHJ or installing contractor and ask for approved basis of design? > > SL > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of firs...@aol.com > Sent: Mon 10/5/2015 9:37 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: R

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

r.org Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California It appears that both the AHJ and contractor have made mistakes on this project. I am interested in finding out what exactly happened. We should all play by the same rules. Im trying to figure out what is correct here according to sta

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

the AHJ or installing contractor and > ask for approved basis of design? > > SL > > > -Original Message- > From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of firs...@aol.com > Sent: Mon 10/5/2015 9:37 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California It appears that both the AHJ and contractor have made mistakes on this project. I am interested in finding out what exactly happened. We should all play by the same rules. Im trying to figure out what is correct here according to standard

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

ssage- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > firs...@aol.com > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:44 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California > > It app

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of firs...@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 11:05 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California No, it's a stand alone. No domestic service. Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2015, at 10:57 AM, St

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

This is a stand alone, it does not serve domestic. It is a double check with OS Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 5, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Parsley Consulting > wrote: > > Owen, > >You haven't given us enough information. Does this underground supply > also provide

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

ion analysis? Why not just call the AHJ or installing contractor and ask for approved basis of design? SL -Original Message- From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of firs...@aol.com Sent: Mon 10/5/2015 9:37 AM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control val

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

irs...@aol.com > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 11:05 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California > > No, it's a stand alone. No domestic service. > > Sent from my iPhone > >>> On Oct 5, 2015, at 10:57 AM, Steve Ley

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

e- > From: Sprinklerforum > [mailto:sprinklerforum-boun...@lists.firesprinkler.org] On Behalf Of > Larry Keeping > Sent: Monday, October 05, 2015 10:50 AM > To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org > Subject: RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California > > If I've

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

roved basis of design? >> >> SL >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Sprinklerforum on behalf of firs...@aol.com >> Sent: Mon 10/5/2015 9:37 AM >> To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org >> Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California Ken, Good questions. Correct, 13D does not require tamper on one and two family dwellings. But what about an Option one 13D system serving a building with 5 town homes? In other words, this is a stand alone 13D system

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

otectiondesign.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Are you doing a 3rd party inspection or some sort of risk >>> management/loss prevention analysis? Why not just call the AHJ or >>> installing contractor and ask for approved basis of design? >>

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

, 2015 12:45 PM To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California Ken, Good questions. Correct, 13D does not require tamper on one and two family dwellings. But what about an Option one 13D system serving a building with 5 town homes? In other words

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

To: sprinklerforum@lists.firesprinkler.org Subject: Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California Hi Steve, thanks for responding. Isn't the CBC more restrictive therefore you can't allow something less? This particular system looks like a 13R but they failed to provide electrical for tamper

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

Owen, You haven't given us enough information. Does this underground supply also provide domestic water? Even if the systems were regarded as conforming to 13R, the valve monitoring wouldn't be required by the CFC if the domestic were served from the same piping. I might ask

RE: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

It's possible the AHJ has accepted these to be of limited area if the sub-systems serve less than 20 sprinklers. NFPA offers multiple solutions for "monitoring", including the locking of valves. Perhaps the AHJ approved an alternative to electronic supervision. Steve L. -Original

Re: Monitoring 13D control valves in California

Hi Steve, thanks for responding. Isn't the CBC more restrictive therefore you can't allow something less? This particular system looks like a 13R but they failed to provide electrical for tamper switches. So now they argue it is a 13D serving a building with 5 townhouse's separated by 1 hour