Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-23 Thread Antoni Reus
Hi, sorry for the late answer, but I'm in GMT+1 ;-) A Dimecres 23 Octubre 2002 04:01, Craig R. McClanahan va escriure: > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Antoni Reus wrote: > > [snip] > > As you could expect I would like to see this in 1.1 controlled by the > > xhtml attribute!! > > This result has two prere

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-21 Thread Matt Read
For what it's worth, most version of Netscape 4 and previous don't understand the XML shortcut of using to open and close a tag in one go. E.g. works, doesn't. Matt. -Original Message- From: Martin Cooper [mailto:martin.cooper@;tumbleweed.com] Sent: Monday, October 21, 2002 23:44 To:

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-21 Thread Paul Speed
But it will understand . At least 4.7 does. Basically, it grabs everything between < and > and tries to grok it as parameters. It thinks the / is a parameter that it doesn't understand. If you put it as then br/ is a bad tag name. -Paul Matt Read wrote: > > For what it's worth, most version o

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread David Graham
XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need the xhtml attribute for the tag anymore. Because xhtml works in current and older browsers, I think the tags should produce it every time. Many people do not use the tag so it doesn't make sense to require that to use xhtml. David Fro

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread James Holmes
+1. --- David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need > the xhtml attribute for > the tag anymore. Because xhtml works in current and > older browsers, I think > the tags should produce it every time. Many people > do not use the > tag so it d

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Matt Read
In my experience XHTML does not work in older browsers, specifically Netscape 4.x and I would be very concerned if an upgrade to Struts 1.1 gave me no choice in using XHTML. Matt. Quoting David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need the xhtml attribut

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
@;hotmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and XML compliant HTML is XHTML. I don't think we need the xhtml attribute for the tag anymore. Because xhtml works in current and older browsers, I think the tags should produce it e

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
-Original Message- From: Matt Read [mailto:mread@;spotd.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:33 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and In my experience XHTML does not work in older browsers, specifically Netscape 4.x and I would be very concerned if an

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Matt Read
tp://www.chikli.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Matt Read [mailto:mread@;spotd.co.uk] > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:33 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > > In my experience XHTML does not work in older b

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread David Graham
technology) :-). David From: Matt Read <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 10:58:44 -0400 (EDT) I don't agree I'

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Eddie Bush
Matt, have you tried as was suggested yesterday or the day before? Someone made note that would not work, but would work. The reason is that the browser will try to interpret everything between < and > as a tag. The space makes it think that the slash is an unknown attribute instead of pa

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread James Mitchell
0:59 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > > I don't agree I'm afraid. I'm also fairly aware of the difference > between CSS > and XHTML. Try this in Netscape 4.x and then in IE 4-6. > > Line 1Line2 > > Matt. > >

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
kli Consulting LLC - http://www.chikli.com -Original Message- From: Matt Read [mailto:mread@;spotd.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:59 AM To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and I don't agree I'm afraid. I'm also fairly aware of the difference between

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and Matt, have you tried as was suggested yesterday or the day before? Someone made note that would not work, but would work. The reason is that the browser will try to interpret everything between < and > as a tag. The space ma

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 08:24:08 -0600 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > XML compliant HTML

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
> -Original Message- > From: David Graham [mailto:dgraham1980@;hotmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 10:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > > Struts does not output any tags. Use ... > > [snip] See the XHTML s

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread David Graham
or IE which both support this grammar. Many other people use Opera which also supports this. Dave From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject:

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Martin Cooper
> -Original Message- > From: Craig R. McClanahan [mailto:craigmcc@;apache.org] > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 9:03 AM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > > > > On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > > >

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Bartley, Chris P [PCS]
nt: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:20 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > > AFAIK, the only change is the closing / added to struts input > tags. All > browsers support this for reasons mentioned previously. > > I guess I just don

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Matt Read
velopers List Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and Matt, have you tried as was suggested yesterday or the day before? Someone made note that would not work, but would work. The reason is that the browser will try to interpret everything between < and > as a tag. The space makes it thi

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Matt Read
To: Struts Developers List Subject: RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and You have apparently missed 1. other discussions 2. commits 3. bugzilla comments about XHTML > Try this in Netscape 4.x and then in IE 4-6. > > Line 1Line2 > Try it this way: Line 1Line2 ^^^ notice

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:19:57 -0600 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > AFAIK, the only

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Eddie Bush
Matt Read wrote: Sorry that I keep using the tag as an example because I agree it's not a particularly good, although it does demonstrate my point. I see a problem not with the tag in particular as obviously Struts taglibs don't generate them, but that to be absolutely certain that there aren't

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Ted Husted
I agree with Craig (not that it matters, a veto is a veto =:0). We've always supported specifications rather than specific client technologies. Since this is not the markup specified by HTML 4.01, I don't see how we can make it the default. In practice, browsers may ignore the slash as an u

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Hajratwala, Nayan (N.)
ilto:craigmcc@;apache.org] Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 2:58 PM To: Struts Developers List Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 11:19:57 -0600 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread David Graham
backwards compatibility but do understand that others are. So, I think the solution suggested above is a decent compromise. Comments? David From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Develop

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread James Holmes
sing current User-Agents now, so let > me upgrade my site to > XHTML1.0" They can do it at a flip of a switch. > > Does anyone think this is > ridiculous/feasible/useful? Is this overkill? > > > --- > - Nayan Hajratwala > - Chikli Consulting LLC > - http://www

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 13:54:14 -0600 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > If we're not

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Antoni Reus
Hi, A Dimarts 22 Octubre 2002 19:46, Martin Cooper va escriure: > > I'd rather *not* make this kind of a potentially backwards > > incompatible > > change immediately before a release (unless you make it > > conditional on the > > "xhtml" attribute of the tag being true). The > > problem is

RE: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Byrne, Steven
Whatever the decision, once it's made it should go into the roadmap document just so there's a record of it > -Original Message- > From: Eddie Bush [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2002 12:17 PM > To: Struts Developers List > Subject:

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, Antoni Reus wrote: > [snip] > As you could expect I would like to see this in 1.1 controlled by the xhtml > attribute!! > This result has two prerequisites: * The developers have to agree to it (I'm personally +0, which means I'm OK with it but *I* am not going to do th

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread David Graham
asily implement xhtml 1.0. Will JavaServer Faces handle xhtml? Should we even bother with doing this in Struts? Dave From: "Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: "Struts Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL

Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and

2002-10-22 Thread Craig R. McClanahan
On Tue, 22 Oct 2002, David Graham wrote: > Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2002 21:37:42 -0600 > From: David Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: Struts Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: HTML, XML, XHTML and > > Well I've bee