Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Soon enough, we won't have to code HTML by hand, we'll just write and format content the way we do in a word processor. We're not there yet, but I can see it coming. Then we won't be writing HTML, we will be designing a web page; two entirely different things.

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Daniel
Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/17/2013 10:48 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: You have a profile. See: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey I have been using Seamonkey as my html editor only for about the least 2 years. I do not use the web browser for the

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/18/2013 07:10 AM, Daniel wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: Using fileSave and Change Character EncodingISO-8859-1 works. However when I open a file the charset still changes to window I just need to be careful. I have stopped automatic updates because that is what caused my problem a

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Daniel
Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/18/2013 07:10 AM, Daniel wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: Using fileSave and Change Character EncodingISO-8859-1 works. However when I open a file the charset still changes to window I just need to be careful. I have stopped automatic updates because that is

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Soon enough, we won't have to code HTML by hand, we'll just write and format content the way we do in a word processor. We're not there yet, but I can see it coming. Then we won't be writing HTML, we will be designing a web page; two entirely

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Ray_Net
Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 18/03/2013 15:43: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Soon enough, we won't have to code HTML by hand, we'll just write and format content the way we do in a word processor. We're not there yet, but I can see it coming. Then we won't be writing HTML,

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 18/03/2013 15:43: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Soon enough, we won't have to code HTML by hand, we'll just write and format content the way we do in a word processor. We're not there yet, but I can see it coming. Then we won't be

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-18 Thread Geoff Welsh
Ray_Net wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote, On 18/03/2013 15:43: Philip TAYLOR wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Soon enough, we won't have to code HTML by hand, we'll just write and format content the way we do in a word processor. We're not there yet, but I can see it coming. Then we won't be

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-17 Thread Ed Mullen
Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/16/2013 02:51 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/16/2013 01:17 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-17 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/17/2013 10:48 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: You have a profile. See: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder_-_SeaMonkey I have been using Seamonkey as my html editor only for about the least 2 years. I do not use the web browser for the internet. It was about 2-3

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-16 Thread Daniel
Gary Montalbine wrote: Snip Is this using Seamonkey for your email or for a webpage? I get the same heading in my html editor for a new web page with the ISO-8859-1. However as soon as I save it, it is changed to windows-1252. I have no control over it. I use Firefox for email in text format.

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-16 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/16/2013 04:44 AM, Daniel wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: Snip Is this using Seamonkey for your email or for a webpage? I get the same heading in my html editor for a new web page with the ISO-8859-1. However as soon as I save it, it is changed to windows-1252. I have no control over it.

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-16 Thread Ed Mullen
Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might recommend? Gary BlueGriffon (http://bluegriffon.org/) has been

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-16 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/16/2013 01:17 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might recommend? Gary

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-16 Thread Ed Mullen
Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/16/2013 01:17 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-16 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/16/2013 02:51 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/16/2013 01:17 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/14/2013 01:46 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Gary Montalbine wrote: To me the problem is I am forced to use the windows-1252 charset which I really know nothing about except what was mentioned previously. I should have a choice. As mentioned earlier I can change it in a text editor. Another useless step. I like Seamonkey because to a

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/15/2013 03:15 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: To me the problem is I am forced to use the windows-1252 charset which I really know nothing about except what was mentioned previously. I should have a choice. As mentioned earlier I can change it in a text editor.

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Gary Montalbine wrote: Is this using Seamonkey for your email or for a webpage? For a web page. For me, all e-mail is in plain text. I get the same heading in my html editor for a new web page with the ISO-8859-1. However as soon as I save it, it is changed to windows-1252. I did save

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/15/2013 03:33 PM, Philip TAYLOR wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: Is this using Seamonkey for your email or for a webpage? For a web page. For me, all e-mail is in plain text. I get the same heading in my html editor for a new web page with the ISO-8859-1. However as soon as I save

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 14/03/2013 23:56, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: I didn't say, and I don't think, that word processors produce good HTML. I wouldn't even try to draft it in Word. But they do make good word-processed documents. With a basic understanding of styles and a few other

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 14/03/2013 23:56, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: I didn't say, and I don't think, that word processors produce good HTML. I wouldn't even try to draft it in Word. But they do make good word-processed documents. With a basic understanding of styles and

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR
Gary Montalbine wrote: I tried that. I save as ISO-8859 and when I reopen it is back to windows. Even when I open old html's that were saved as ISO-8859 and are on the web as such they become Windows.. I am using SM 2.16. There must be someplace where you can set the default. Just as a

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-14 Thread Ed Mullen
Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might recommend? Gary BlueGriffon (http://bluegriffon.org/) has been

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might recommend? BlueGriffon

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-14 Thread Ed Mullen
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Gary Montalbine wrote: On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might recommend?

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Ed Mullen wrote: And I haven't perused the thread in detail. But, it is typical of those who expect WYSIWYG editors to work properly. And then complain. Sigh. It won't do any good but I'll say what I always say: Learn HTML and CSS. Get a good text editor and code by hand. Or. Live with the

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-14 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 14/03/2013 22:39, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: Ed Mullen wrote: And I haven't perused the thread in detail. But, it is typical of those who expect WYSIWYG editors to work properly. And then complain. Sigh. It won't do any good but I'll say what I always say:

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-14 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 14/03/2013 22:39, Paul B. Gallagher told the world: Ed Mullen wrote: And I haven't perused the thread in detail. But, it is typical of those who expect WYSIWYG editors to work properly. And then complain. Sigh. It won't do any good but I'll say what I

OT Mageia 2 (was:- Re: Charset revisited)

2013-03-14 Thread Daniel
Gary Montalbine wrote: Snip I am using Mageia2 Gary, perchance do you connect to the internet via 3G Dongle?? (I'm still trying to get mine up and running!!) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:20.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.17 Build identifier: 20130224181913

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-13 Thread Arne
Gary Montalbine skriver: On 03/11/2013 01:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: A Williams wrote: Note that Composer is not the same as the mail composition applet. Composer is an outdated HTML editor. I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-13 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/13/2013 02:00 AM, Arne wrote: Gary Montalbine skriver: I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you might recommend? Gary BlueGriffon (http://bluegriffon.org/) has been recommended here

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-12 Thread chokito
See https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/BBpOkoTcgnM/w3eLwRc4awcJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-12 Thread A Williams
chokito wrote: See https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/BBpOkoTcgnM/w3eLwRc4awcJ oops - I did not look back far enough. known bug then: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594646 thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-12 Thread Gary Montalbine
On 03/11/2013 01:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: A Williams wrote: Note that Composer is not the same as the mail composition applet. Composer is an outdated HTML editor. I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another

Charset revisited

2013-03-11 Thread A Williams
I receive a number of mails in German and after my most recent upgrade the German special characters are all screwed. If I then click on Reply they render correctly in the Composer. Seamonkey 2.16 Linux English as default language Text (non-html) messages. Just for fun I'll append the

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-11 Thread A Williams
A Williams wrote: I receive a number of mails in German and after my most recent upgrade the German special characters are all screwed. If I then click on Reply they render correctly in the Composer. Seamonkey 2.16 Linux English as default language Text (non-html) messages. Just for fun I'll

Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-11 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
A Williams wrote: A Williams wrote: I receive a number of mails in German and after my most recent upgrade the German special characters are all screwed. If I then click on Reply they render correctly in the Composer. Seamonkey 2.16 Linux English as default language Text (non-html) messages.