Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Burry
On 19.06.15 21:10, Kevin L. Hill wrote: On 06/18/2015 10:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Kevin L. Hill wrote: I encountered a site today that may serve as one 'real world' example. Mega.co.nz offers end-to-end encryption for data, claiming that all encryption/decryption is done on the local

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On 06/19/2015 01:56 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Kevin L. Hill wrote: > >> On 06/18/2015 10:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> >>> Steps to reproduce? >>> >> Thank you Paul, >> >> Start Seamonkey 2.33.1 in safe mode with addons disabled. >> mega.co.nz > > I'm using 2.33.1 and don't need to r

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Mr. Ed
On 6/19/2015 5:50 PM, Ray_Net wrote: > Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 19/06/2015 22:41: >> Mason83 wrote: >> >>> On 18/06/2015 23:37, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>> [...] I have a fast connection (50 MB/min both ways). >>> >>> 50 megabytes per minute? (What an odd unit to use.) >>> => 6.67 Mbps >>>

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Ray_Net
Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 19/06/2015 22:41: Mason83 wrote: On 18/06/2015 23:37, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: [...] I have a fast connection (50 MB/min both ways). 50 megabytes per minute? (What an odd unit to use.) => 6.67 Mbps Not particularly fast download, great upload. SDSL? Multiple T1s

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Kevin L. Hill wrote: On 06/18/2015 10:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Steps to reproduce? Thank you Paul, Start Seamonkey 2.33.1 in safe mode with addons disabled. mega.co.nz I'm using 2.33.1 and don't need to rule out add-ons as suspects since I don't have the issue (no crime therefore

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Mason83 wrote: On 18/06/2015 23:37, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: [...] I have a fast connection (50 MB/min both ways). 50 megabytes per minute? (What an odd unit to use.) => 6.67 Mbps Not particularly fast download, great upload. SDSL? Multiple T1s? Slip of the "pen," should be Mbps, which c

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On 06/19/2015 12:39 PM, EE wrote: > Kevin L. Hill wrote: >> >> >> On 06/18/2015 04:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: >>> Kevin L. Hill wrote: On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: > Bill DeCoster wrote: >> I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread EE
Kevin L. Hill wrote: On 06/18/2015 04:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Kevin L. Hill wrote: On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? ?? M

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread EE
Miles Fidelman wrote: EE wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? It might help if you explained what the problem is. I am not having problems with SeaMonkey. Well, speaking perso

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On 06/18/2015 10:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Kevin L. Hill wrote: > >> I encountered a site today that may serve as one 'real world' example. >> Mega.co.nz offers end-to-end encryption for data, claiming that all >> encryption/decryption is done on the local computer, not by their >> serve

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Mason83
On 18/06/2015 23:37, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > [...] I have a fast connection (50 MB/min both ways). 50 megabytes per minute? (What an odd unit to use.) => 6.67 Mbps Not particulary fast download, great upload. SDSL? Multiple T1s? Regards. ___ supp

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On 06/18/2015 05:26 PM, Rinaldi wrote: > Richard Owlett decreed, Read These Runes!: >> Kevin L. Hill wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: > I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because > of issues with it.

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Ray_Net
Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 19/06/2015 08:36: Ray_Net wrote: W3BNR wrote on 19/06/2015 01:54: On 6/18/2015 12:35 PM, Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? IMHO most of the issues that

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Miles Fidelman
I keep wondering if there is something that a deep architectural level that is being pushed past its breaking point. Almost all of my problems with SeaMonkey, these days, involve lockups of the whole program while it's waiting for some complicated web page to load - I just sit there with all w

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-19 Thread Desiree
On 6/18/2015 6:45 PM, Lemon Juice wrote: On 2015-06-19 01:26, Richard Owlett wrote: https://validator.w3.org/ reports 6 errors ;/ 'nuff said? Not really. The errors don't mean anything in this case and they have nothing to do with SM not working well. The problem with the validator is that i

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Ray_Net wrote: W3BNR wrote on 19/06/2015 01:54: On 6/18/2015 12:35 PM, Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? IMHO most of the issues that you see regarding IE vs SM is not in the SM's

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Ray_Net
W3BNR wrote on 19/06/2015 01:54: On 6/18/2015 12:35 PM, Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? IMHO most of the issues that you see regarding IE vs SM is not in the SM's software. It is in

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Kevin L. Hill wrote: I encountered a site today that may serve as one 'real world' example. Mega.co.nz offers end-to-end encryption for data, claiming that all encryption/decryption is done on the local computer, not by their servers, and that they do not possess the keys needed to decrypt the d

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Lemon Juice
On 2015-06-19 01:26, Richard Owlett wrote: https://validator.w3.org/ reports 6 errors ;/ 'nuff said? Not really. The errors don't mean anything in this case and they have nothing to do with SM not working well. The problem with the validator is that its results have any meaning only to webm

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Adrian Kalla
W dniu 06/19/2015 o 01:14 AM, Kevin L. Hill pisze: > I encountered a site today that may serve as one 'real world' example. > Mega.co.nz offers end-to-end encryption for data, claiming that all > encryption/decryption is done on the local computer, not by their > servers, and that they do not posse

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Rinaldi
Richard Owlett decreed, Read These Runes!: > Kevin L. Hill wrote: >> >> >> On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: >>> Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? >>> >>> ??

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread MCBastos
Miles Fidelman wrote: EE wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? It might help if you explained what the problem is. I am not having problems with SeaMonkey. Well, speaking perso

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On 06/18/2015 04:26 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: > Kevin L. Hill wrote: >> >> >> On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: >>> Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? >>> >

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread W3BNR
On 6/18/2015 12:35 PM, Bill DeCoster wrote: > I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues > with it. What's the point if nothing works? IMHO most of the issues that you see regarding IE vs SM is not in the SM's software. It is in the HTML of the pages that do no

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Kevin L. Hill wrote: On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? ?? Mine works perfectly. I never have a problem with it. SM 2.26.1 I enco

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Kevin L. Hill
On 06/18/2015 03:59 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote: > Bill DeCoster wrote: >> I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because >> of issues with it. >> What's the point if nothing works? > > ?? > Mine works perfectly. > I never have a problem with it. > SM 2.26.1 I encountere

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Paul in Houston, TX
Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? ?? Mine works perfectly. I never have a problem with it. SM 2.26.1 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list supp

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher
Miles Fidelman wrote: Well, speaking personally: - an awful lot of web pages take forever to load, and a slow page load freezes the entire program - I have to force quit the browser at least 1 or 2 times a day, and look at pages in something else This isn't my experience at all, though that m

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Richard Owlett
Miles Fidelman wrote: EE wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? It might help if you explained what the problem is. I am not having problems with SeaMonkey. Well, speaking perso

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Miles Fidelman
EE wrote: Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? It might help if you explained what the problem is. I am not having problems with SeaMonkey. Well, speaking personally: - an awful lot

Re: seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread EE
Bill DeCoster wrote: I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? It might help if you explained what the problem is. I am not having problems with SeaMonkey. ___ suppor

seamonkey obsolete?

2015-06-18 Thread Bill DeCoster
I find myself needing to use IE other programs more and more because of issues with it. What's the point if nothing works? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey