< Talking about 3rd order is just castles in the air
Not to be confrontational, but...
3rd order Ambisonics may be uncommon, but it just so happens that I intend to
spend the next several days listening to 3rd order Ambisonics, at the Linux
Audio Conference:
http://lac.linuxaudio.org/2012/
Comp
Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:
Technology hasn't moved on. 5.1 is 4.0 plus a crappy center speaker that has a totally different tonal quality and never blends with the other four lousy speakers, plus a subwoofer to make up for the fact that the other speakers are lousy. Four full-range speakers in
Steven Dive wrote:
IMHO I can't see how FOA isn't clearly worth promoting along with up
to 3rd order G-format decodes for 5.1/7.1 setups for home users.
Basically, get UHJ and, while we are at it, superstereo into people's
homes, then get on with full 1st and higher orders.
Steve
S
While the mode of expression is even more emphatic
than my own, RCFA is to my mind right all up
and down the line. Talking about 3rd order is
just castles in the air. As a theoretical mathematician,
I spend most of my life building castles in the air.
But one ought to know that that is what they
On 13 Apr 2012, at 00:53, Steven Dive wrote:
> IMHO I can't see how FOA isn't clearly worth promoting [...] Basically, get
> UHJ and, while we are at it, superstereo into people's homes, then get on
> with full 1st and higher orders.
Amen. Can't feed a baby with a steak.
Ronald
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On 12 Apr 2012, at 23:05, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:47:04PM +0200, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:
>> On 12 Apr 2012, at 22:27, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>>
>>> First order definitely isn't good enough. As long a you insist that
>>> one can't go up in order, just forget about
Meridian may be expensive, too, but at least they are sticking with
Ambisonics. Full horizontal 1st order B-format is now included in
their decoders, as well as UHJ, superstereo and Trifield. Oh, and I'm
a Meridian customer enjoying one of the few (only?) current domestic
ambisonic decoders
On 13/04/2012 12:13 AM, seva wrote:
but for me, i'd really like some tools to use in film mixing (even
with the distributed Ls and Rs speakers). anyone on the list care to
tell me what tools might be best, or "why it just won't work"? the
idea is to simply improve location and immersive aspects
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:47:04PM +0200, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:
> On 12 Apr 2012, at 22:27, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
>
> > First order definitely isn't good enough. As long a you insist that
> > one can't go up in order, just forget about it all.
>
> Tell that Meridian, and all their customers
On 12 Apr 2012, at 22:27, Fons Adriaensen wrote:
> First order definitely isn't good enough. As long a you insist that
> one can't go up in order, just forget about it all.
Tell that Meridian, and all their customers who have enjoyed immensely not only
listening to horizontal-only 1st order Amb
On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 10:14:28PM +0200, Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:
> On 9 Apr 2012, at 02:25, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
> > 1. 3rd order .AMB format can be decoded to a 5.1 ITU/Dolby setup.
> > (Results would be clearly superior than a decoding from Ambionics
> > 1st order to 5.1 ITU. This is b
On 12 Apr 2012, at 19:57, Martin Leese wrote:
> seva
>
>> was it not true that the UK did not, or would not, help to support
>> the ambisonic fledgling business due to some frustrating legal
>> restriction? this was a major point in the killing of the launch.
>
> I assume by "the UK" you mean
Sorry for the late answer, I was away for several days...
On 9 Apr 2012, at 02:25, Stefan Schreiber wrote:
> Ronald C.F. Antony wrote:
>
>>
>> There was once a slim chance of getting Apple to move on Ambisonics, as both
>> some fundamental interest by some of Apple's CoreAudio group and relen
I take it this refers to quadraphonic stuff, rather than to the high-end Hi-Fi
company?
John
On 12 Apr 2012, at 15:18, seva wrote:
> the Quad stuff
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On 12/04/2012 18:31, Martin Leese wrote:
seva wrote:
...
but for me, i'd really like some tools to use in film mixing (even
with the distributed Ls and Rs speakers). anyone on the list care to
tell me what tools might be best, or "why it just won't work"? the
idea is to simply improve location
seva
> was it not true that the UK did not, or would not, help to support
> the ambisonic fledgling business due to some frustrating legal
> restriction? this was a major point in the killing of the launch.
I assume by "the UK" you mean the UK
Government. The UK Government, through the
National
seva wrote:
...
> but for me, i'd really like some tools to use in film mixing (even
> with the distributed Ls and Rs speakers). anyone on the list care to
> tell me what tools might be best, or "why it just won't work"? the
> idea is to simply improve location and immersive aspects of film
> soun
was it not true that the UK did not, or would not, help to support
the ambisonic fledgling business due to some frustrating legal
restriction? this was a major point in the killing of the launch.
in addition, when MAG openly criticized (and mathematically gutted)
the Quad stuff, he did not m
yes indeed. perfect example.
and easily applied to gaming (i use that adjective with tongue
approaching cheek).
imagine the laser quest with HUD in a room, with virtual fighters,
and true sound placement around you. kids would (of all ages) pony up
large money for such an experience.
but for
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