[Biofuel] Things are not any better in England

2006-05-04 Thread D. Mindock
 From: http://www.colsweb.com/constdraw.htm   BLOG NOTES March 2006; UK Government gross maltreatment of ill folk.For the last 14 years, at least, invalid/disabled and private pension payments have been overtaken by real inflation thus lessening there value each year by approximately 10 perce

Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?

2006-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
>Hey Randall, >its greed just greed and again greed and only greed! >Fritz Maybe, but whose greed, exactly? I'm not addressing this at anyone in particular... This is a simple thing that's become woven into a hugely complicated situation, a matter of empire. As a result it's not "only" anything

Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Keith, Much of what you say is true but to lump everyone here in the US together is not fair. BushCo flat stole the last vote, and a HUGE group of us USers (I hate the term "American" - it's as if Mexico and Canada don't exist) are now and have ALWAYS been working as hard as we can to fight h

Re: [Biofuel] Electric lynch motors

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Yeah, you can't smoke in an outdoor cafe here in the US but you can pour mercury-laden smoke into the atmosphere to your heart's content! -Mike Hakan Falk wrote: >Zeke, > >Galapagos: >Nothing, if they have not done it the last 8 month. I did not see >any solar, not even on the houses. The tour

Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel videos

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
If you're not a little oily and there ain't a few stains on the floor you can't be doing it right! Joe Street wrote: >I just watched a biodiesel DVD that was made in eastern Ontario. It was >obvious that a pile of money was invested by somebody but everything >looked brand new and shiny, inst

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
I personally think this list is mostly crackpots, me included. That's why I like it. "Regular" people bore me. Better a smart nut than a dull "normal" person... Except Redler. He really is crazy, which annoys me, because I like to be the craziest person on the list. -Mike Jason & Katie wrot

[Biofuel] The Predator's Ball

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
But think of the fallout for the average working stiff with NO safety net - we need to keep the good and change the bad. Just because it's gotten MUCH worse under Bush doesn't mean we can't repair it. Look at Roosevelt's programs - that was a wholesale change without a total collapse and failu

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
FWIW - I have not bought ANY petro products for almost a year now except for diesel on one long trip and the least amount of NG as possible for cooking and showers. I hope to go to BD heating for water, or get my BD generator running and use electric. I heat with wood. I went from being the n

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Fred Finch
Hey Weaver!!I like the crackpots and cranks on the list.  Todd's writing keeps me entertained for hours.  And you and Redler keep me spinning.  To the point where I lose track of which mike is saying what.I too am the "former neighborhood crank/mad scientist now the forward thinking nutjob who migh

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Joe Street
Mike Weaver for President!! Sorry Redler.you can be VP as long as you don't own a shotgun. J Mike Weaver wrote: I personally think this list is mostly crackpots, me included. That's why I like it. "Regular" people bore me. Better a smart nut than a dull "normal" person... Except R

Re: [Biofuel] FFA's as Weed Killer

2006-05-04 Thread Thomas Kelly
Fox Mulder wrote: "hi, pouring glycerine on the leaves kills. glycerine is alkaline; so, alkalinity kills leaves. Further, methyl ester kills leaves. The best weed killer; Follow the ingredients; glycerine left over from your biodiesel 2parts sodium ethanoate 1part" We are talking about the

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Thomas Kelly
Mike, You wrote: "Except Redler. He really is crazy, which annoys me, because I like to be the craziest person on the list." Not to worry, you are right there with him. I often have to check to see which Mike I'm reading. For a while there I was fairly certain there really only was one

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Dear Thomas, Do not believe anything Weaver says. He makes things up. -Mike Thomas Kelly wrote: >Mike, >You wrote: >"Except Redler. He really is crazy, which annoys me, because I like to be >the craziest person on the list." > >Not to worry, you are right there with him. I often have

[Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
I am afraid I must refuse to serve, because I believe that wanting the job indicates that one is unfit for the post. I propose we draft Redler for Pres. He might have a shotgun, which will come in handy for the VP, who should be Street. I would serve as Secretary of Energy in the Redler Administr

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Joe Street
Ohhh no.  I've already shot myself in the foot on many occasions and shotguns are too devastating.  I need something left to put in my mouth from time to time! J Mike Weaver wrote: I am afraid I must refuse to serve, because I believe that wanting the job indicates that one is unfit for t

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Slingshot? Joe Street wrote: > Ohhh no. I've already shot myself in the foot on many occasions and > shotguns are too devastating. I need something left to put in my > mouth from time to time! > > J > > Mike Weaver wrote: > >>I am afraid I must refuse to serve, because I believe that wanting

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Joe Street
How about a biogas powered potato cannon?  Redler can provide the gas I think. Mike Weaver wrote: Slingshot? Joe Street wrote: Ohhh no. I've already shot myself in the foot on many occasions and shotguns are too devastating. I need something left to put in my mouth from tim

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Fritz Friesinger
Hey Guys, i think Redler would be better of with a good old bavarian Dumplingcanon?! Fritz - Original Message - From: Joe Street To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Thursday, May 04, 2006 12:00 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President How about a bio

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
We better find out how much he weighs before we design a cannon to shoot him from. Redler? Fritz Friesinger wrote: > Hey Guys, > i think Redler would be better of with a good old bavarian Dumplingcanon?! > Fritz > > - Original Message - > *From:* Joe Street

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
You tryin' ta say Redler's gassier than me? Joe Street wrote: > How about a biogas powered potato cannon? Redler can provide the gas > I think. > > > Mike Weaver wrote: > >>Slingshot? >> >>Joe Street wrote: >> >> >> >>>Ohhh no. I've already shot myself in the foot on many occasions and >>>s

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread M&K DuPree
Thanks Jason and Kate.  I suspected as much, so I carry on with my suspicions.  Mike   - Original Message - From: "Jason & Katie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List > Sanity is the

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread M&K DuPree
Mike...during your neigborhood conversion from "neighborhood crank to having a steady stream of visitors and questions about BD," are the neighbors changing? If so, how? One of my concerns in my post in response to Keith is that not everyone will have the ability/interest to set up their own B

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike I enjoyed reading that, thanks. Not that I enjoy your plight, but you put it well. I think you're in good company. You can be argumentative if you like, go right ahead (but no need for the .38! LOL!). It's when people get argumentative just for the sake of it or to throw up a smokes

[Biofuel] Wise words from a GA carpet manufacturer?

2006-05-04 Thread Catherine Booker
Hi List,   I'm new, but I think this is a worthy posting...relevant that is.   I saw Ray Anderson, CEO of Interface, Inc speak last week. Some may recognize him from the Corporation documentary. It was refreshing and inspirational to hear a man in a suit, a southerner even (GA is my home state too!

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Michael Redler
"Except Redler. He really is crazy, which annoys me, because I like to be the craziest person on the list."Thank you. Thank you. What an honor it is to be chosen for this great, great award. I'd like to thank the academy for it's wonderful work and support. ...and of course this wouldn't b

Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?

2006-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike >Keith, > >Much of what you say is true but to lump everyone here in the US >together is not fair. BushCo flat stole the last vote, And the one before, and the next one. But which president didn't? It's just a matter of degree of in-your-faceness. The Business Party wins every time.

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Michael Redler
Hey!!! That's not nice!I guess politics is dirty AND stinky.Besides, I want to be secretary of defense. I have a foolproof alternative to resolving foreign policy conflicts. Our armies will no longer need to carry rifles.As we speak, I have an elite force infiltrating hostile lands, c

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike I think you need to learn something about the Appropriate Technology approach, essentially technology as if people mattered, the necessary adjunct to Schumacher's "Small is beautiful - economics as if people mattered". An introduction: http://journeytoforever.org/at.html Appropriate

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
There are too many Mikes around here. I'm familiar with Schumacher though it's been years since I read it. I'm working on a modified square foot gardening plan now. Other Mike: No. The immediate neighbors are MAD MAD MAD. They do not like: 1. 12 year old p/u truck 2. Trarped and stacked wood

[Biofuel] [Fwd: [May 9-10, 2006] National Sustainable Design Expo]

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
FYI *Environmental and Energy Study Institute *122 C Street, NW, Suite 630 • Washington, DC 20001 Phone (202) 628-1400 • Fax (202) 628-1825 • [EMAIL PROTECTED] • _www.eesi.org_ *EVENT NOTICE* *National Sustainable Design Expo featuring EPA's P3 A

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mark Manchester
Dear Mikes, I'm on to you with wonderful Schumacher, what a delight. With your neighbours, what IS their problem. This would clearly be an unpleasant experience, first thing in the morning, when you step out to sm the flowers. Now, me, my rainbarrels are municipally supplied!!!

Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
NOT TRUE! The court gave him the first one. He stole the 2nd one ;-) The next one? Even I'm beginning to wonder. FWIW I think Reagan beat Carter w/o chicanery at the ballot box. I'm not arguing that we're lurching towards a coporatocracy - we are, but I'm not throwing in the towel yet. I thi

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

2006-05-04 Thread mark manchester
Thanks Keith. There's the smallest chance we will achieve our goal! Okay, an enormous chance, thanks to the information we have here in the archives and due to your good will. We're attending Joe's workshop in June and will forthwith be ridiculously irritating on-list, I'm sure. Cheers, Jesse

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
I just want to say that it's an honor, Sir, to share a list with you. Michael Redler wrote: > "Except Redler. He really is crazy, which annoys me, because I like to > be the craziest person on the list." > > Thank you. Thank you. What an honor it is to be chosen for this great, > great award. I'

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
We're a small bunch now mostly due to my time-constraints - I wanted to see if it is possible to live without petro. It is. But, I have a small house and am handy, and have friends that help. I would really like to get off the grid a la Zeke but haven't finished the work - I'm close. I think I

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
They like: BIG cars. Perfect lawns - CHEMLAWN SUVS Huge houses Vinyl siding Endless structured "activities" for the kids (Jeez, give them a rest once in a while) working until 8 pm every night to afford the above I tried all that: Monkey suit, real job, long hours big(er) house, big car (diese

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

2006-05-04 Thread Mike Weaver
Mark, Keith is pulling your leg. "Lie water" is what George W. drinks for breakfast every morning. mark manchester wrote: >Thanks Keith. There's the smallest chance we will achieve our goal! Okay, >an enormous chance, thanks to the information we have here in the archives >and due to your g

[Biofuel] Sweet catalyst & continuous processes

2006-05-04 Thread Chris Bennett
My semi-continuous processor should be operational in about 3-4 weeks. 18 litre capacity, estimated production of 3 litres per 5 minuites. In the UK the environment agency insist on expensive waste management licenses if you produce diesel in batches exceeding 100 litres, but have no regulation

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Zeke Yewdall
Ack, chemlawn!! I see their trucks coming out here now that it's spring. To me, that's the worst possible marketing thing you could do, but I guess it works...There's also an add on the radio asking whether you'd prefer the yard with bird sounds, or the one with playing kids (getting cancer a

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Jason & Katie
theres an idea. dont HIRE our presidents, CONSCRIPT them. then we have someone who just wants to get it over with and go home. then there will be very little actual politicking, just straight business. - Original Message - From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, May

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread mark manchester
We have annoyed our neighbours repeatedly with musical evenings Perhaps this would only widen the gap for you? but it has been fun for us... Bring yer guitars and a songbook doesn't hurt, because it's difficult if we don't actally remember any WORDS to any songs, that is essential. Percussio

Re: [Biofuel] Iogen - Post to List

2006-05-04 Thread Ryan Pope
With some sort of per gallon fuel discount for gallons of good quality oil (WVO, SVO, crop mass, whatever) donated to the fuel production measure...it's crossed my mind a few times. Ryan From: "M&K DuPree" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Subject: Re: [Biof

Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources...

2006-05-04 Thread mark manchester
Yipers, so THAT's why 'Commander-In-Chief"was cancelled. -J > From: Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Date: Thu, 04 May 2006 16:34:44 -0400 > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Filtering - was Re: Vegtable oil sources... > > Mark,

Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst & continuous processes

2006-05-04 Thread Jason & Katie
they are discussing the sugar catalyst in detail at http://biodiesel.infopop.cc/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/419605551/m/9771067631/p/1 if i am reading these people's experiences right, the catalyst is made by partially breaking down a sugar molecule by heating it, and then introducing an acid (H2SO4

Re: [Biofuel] distilling fuel/reactant ethanol

2006-05-04 Thread Jason & Katie
i had another thought, (scary huh?) these are the presumptions this idea revolves around: 1. exposing a substance to vacuum lowers the boiling point 2. a substance under vacuum vaporizes more quickly than at atmospheric pressure 3. excess energy or energy byproduct (normally lost) tapped from a

Re: [Biofuel] Are Americans torturers or supporters of torture?

2006-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Mike Weaver >NOT TRUE! True. >The court gave him the first one. He stole the 2nd one ;-) >The next one? Even I'm beginning to wonder. > >FWIW I think Reagan beat Carter w/o chicanery at the ballot box. You miss the point. There's no need to cheat if the whole charade is a shell game an

Re: [Biofuel] Redler for President

2006-05-04 Thread Keith Addison
>theres an idea. dont HIRE our presidents, CONSCRIPT them. then we have >someone who just wants to get it over with and go home. then there will be >very little actual politicking, just straight business. He/she'd be assassinated. "If I were the president, I could stop terrorist attacks against t

Re: [Biofuel] Sweet catalyst & continuous processes

2006-05-04 Thread Leif Forer
Some students at Wake Forest University in North Carolina used a sugar based catalyst as a pretreat step before base transesterification. Here are their blog posts on the results of the experiment. (http://wfubiofuels.blogspot.com/) Tuesday, November 29, 2005 Sugar Catalyzed Reaction Recen

Re: [Biofuel] distilling fuel/reactant ethanol

2006-05-04 Thread lres1
Jason & Katie wrote > 1. exposing a substance to vacuum lowers the boiling point In some instances this is used to lower the temperature such as in the extraction of Tee Tree oils. This gives the oil derived by such means a higher re-sale value as it is not "boiled" off at high temperatures. > 2.