Re: Re[4]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
Gustl, I have seen the same thing happen in my hometown of Bethlehem, PA. The big steel company (Bethlehem Steel) closed down in the 90's after being in operation for almost 100 years. Part of the blame rested with the greedy corporate management, and part with the greedy union leadership (I

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
In a message dated 7/11/05 9:19:46 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Chris are you serious? I can think of plenty of federal protection for workers off the top of my head. a) minimum wage b) overtime rules (40 hr work week for hourly employees) c) OSHA d) EPA e) NLRB f) maternity/paternit

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread James G. Branaum
was on that path and realized it had bad end results in their last economic downturn. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Hayes Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 10:19 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

Re[4]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Earl, Sunday, 10 July, 2005, 21:41:03, you wrote: Kac> Which is why I didn't join the Libertarian Party, or any party Kac> for that matter. Everytime I look up a particular political Kac> party, I find something that I don't agree with. I think I will Kac> just stay an indepen

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread John Hayes
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: earl, i'm not familiar with any federal laws protecting workers, except for anti-discrimination laws. if you're referring to more than that, please enlighten me. Chris are you serious? I can think of plenty of federal protection for workers off the top of my head.

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread Mike Weaver
NLRB? OSHA? At least before the present administration. Also, most employment in the US is termed "at will" either side can fire the other. I agree it's far from perfect, and leads to abuses, but the opposite, making it impossible to fire workers, is worse. I worked some in Bamako, Mali, a

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-11 Thread capt3d
earl, i'm not familiar with any federal laws protecting workers, except for anti-discrimination laws. if you're referring to more than that, please enlighten me. as fro state laws, don't be fooled by what you found in PA. many states have very poor worker protections. for example, employers

Re: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-10 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
an those who falsely believe they are free." -- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe - Original Message - From: "Gustl Steiner-Zehender" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2005 7:13 AM Subject: Re[2]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Hal

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-10 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Richard Anybody heard of the Direct Democracy League? What do you think of it? Not heard of them, but there are some previous discussions following a direct democracy initiative in Gibralter planned by list member James, you might find it interesting: http://www.mail-archive.com/biof

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-10 Thread r
ook at the budget. Thanks, Earl Kinsley - Original Message - From: "Paddy O'Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel I do agree, though, that that was a heck of an expensive program

Re[2]: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-10 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Friends, Saturday, 09 July, 2005, 21:49:44, you wrote: 1an> Unfortunately voting Libertarian had nothing to do with getting 1an> rid of these extreemists... In order to be absolutely fair and consistent I need to be equally hostile to all political parties including the Libertarians.

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-09 Thread RobertCVA
If you haven't seen the summary pie chart on federal incomes and outlays, I suggest checking out page 74 of http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040gi.pdf   Bob     >In a message dated 7/9/2005 1:43

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-09 Thread 1michaelf
uot; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel > >>>I do >>>agree, though, that that was a heck of an expensive program for the U.S. >>>taxpayer. >>> >>> >> >> >> > I'

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-09 Thread KinsleyForPrez08
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy06/browse.html to look at the budget. Thanks, Earl Kinsley - Original Message - From: "Paddy O'Reilly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:13 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel I do agree, though, that

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-05 Thread Bill Vaughn
not worth the extra expense because of the hybrid part. Economical diesels are the way to go. Bill From: "Thompson, Mark L. (PNB R&D)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:11:24 -0700

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-04 Thread Frantz DESPREZ
Chris a écrit : Wood gasification, using peat instead of wood? (Burning the 'smoke' in a regular car engine.) exactly But Paddy was right when he objected me that it is not ecological. Peat-bogs are very special habitats for fauna and flora (i.e. carnivorous plants) and they need thousands

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel / turf

2005-07-04 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
Sorry - idle banter and off-topic rant about the state of diesel engines in Ireland. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/1/05 9:13:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << hello paddy and frantz. i didn't understand this exchange. what's this about turf? wold ap

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-01 Thread Chris
Wood gasification, using peat instead of wood? (Burning the 'smoke' in a regular car engine.) Chris K Cayce, SC - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, July 01, 2005 9:13 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel hello paddy and f

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel / turf

2005-07-01 Thread Newdlhead
In a message dated 7/1/05 9:13:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << hello paddy and frantz. i didn't understand this exchange. what's this about turf? wold appreciate the education. -chris In a message dated 6/30/05 6:58:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << B

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-01 Thread capt3d
hello paddy and frantz. i didn't understand this exchange. what's this about turf? wold appreciate the education. -chris In a message dated 6/30/05 6:58:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Believe me, with the amount of smoke coming from some of the exhausts its as if the vehicles were ru

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-01 Thread capt3d
hi, frantz. here in the usa we call that car-pooling! -chris In a message dated 6/30/05 5:23:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << "co-voiturage" (don't know the right translation in English : co-conveyance or car sharing ?). >> ___ Biofuel mailing

Fwd: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-01 Thread capt3d
ECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Vaughn Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 8:25 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Mean while the Japanese figured out how to make hybrids at a prices to sell to the American public. Seems there is a line waitin

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-01 Thread Tim Schlueter
org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel > It also interesting to note that "tax" accounts for 69.9% of the total cost! Can that be right! < YES it bloody well is and some places charge up to 7 dollars for a sized US gallon. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club (http://www.wessexferretclub

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-07-01 Thread Newdlhead
In a message dated 6/30/05 8:58:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Unfortunately Ireland is becoming more and more a car-oriented country and cyclists have to take to the pavement/footpath to feel safe. This is in turn desensitising car drivers to the presence of other

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-30 Thread Chris Lloyd
> It also interesting to note that "tax" accounts for 69.9% of the total cost! Can that be right! < YES it bloody well is and some places charge up to 7 dollars for a sized US gallon. Chris. Wessex Ferret Club (http://www.wessexferretclub.co.uk) -- No virus found in this outgoing messa

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-30 Thread Tim Schlueter
TECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paddy O'Reilly Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 12:24 PM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel I'm not sure what the average price of "gas" (aka petrol) is in the US, in Ireland it has just passed the E

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-30 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
Believe me, with the amount of smoke coming from some of the exhausts its as if the vehicles were running on turf. However that route (pardon the pun) is being stopped since the government environment body has put a stop to the erosion of the countryside by turf-cutting. Unfortunately Ireland

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-30 Thread Frantz DESPREZ
Paddy O'Reilly a écrit : I'm not sure what the average price of "gas" (aka petrol) is in the US, in Ireland it has just passed the Euro mark per litre - that's USD5.44 a gallon and in England its about 90p per litre - that's USD8.17 a gallon. Perhaps this kind of price in the US will be enou

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread
they don't have a clue. Bill >From: "RobT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: >Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel >Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:47:50 -0400 > >I worked on the Ford P2000 DIATA diesel hybrid for a few yea

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
I'm not sure what the average price of "gas" (aka petrol) is in the US, in Ireland it has just passed the Euro mark per litre - that's USD5.44 a gallon and in England its about 90p per litre - that's USD8.17 a gallon. Perhaps this kind of price in the US will be enough to get people's attentio

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Bill Vaughn
don't have a clue. Bill From: "RobT" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:47:50 -0400 I worked on the Ford P2000 DIATA diesel hybrid for a few years in the late 90's, as a engin

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Mel Riser
Title: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel you can always try the wayback internet time machine.   I'm always AMAZED at what it remembers.   if it was publicly available, and in a search engine, chances are it is in the time machine   http://www.archive.org/web/web.php -Original Me

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Paddy O'Reilly
I do agree, though, that that was a heck of an expensive program for the U.S. taxpayer. I'm sorry, but I have to comment on what's being said here. Basically, the American tax dollar is begrudgingly given to help with cleaning up our environment to the tune of 210 million (ever defla

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Tony Greetings, All - The loss of the PNGV links at NREL is no surprise. Not really, no. The Feds are deleting online files by the gross. Anything that makes them out for what they are is going, going... Gone. Keith - If you still have the old links, I suppose I could play with the

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-29 Thread Tony DeCarmine
Greetings, All - The loss of the PNGV links at NREL is no surprise. The Feds are deleting online files by the gross. Anything that makes them out for what they are is going, going... Gone. Keith - If you still have the old links, I suppose I could play with the 'wayback machine' and see if I

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-28 Thread RobT
[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 12:31 PM To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Hello Rob >I worked on the Ford P2000 DIATA diesel hybrid for a few years in the late >90's, as a engine control systems engineer. >

[Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-28 Thread Douglas Smith
I believe that Daimler-Chrysler has been working on diesel hybrids for some time. Their new "R Class" Grand Sports Tourer was originally a diesel hybrid, and it looks as if this may ultimately be available here. The R Class is being introduced this year in the US I think, as a gasoline model.

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-28 Thread Mel Riser
Title: RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel solomon technologies has a hybrid Sailboat /diesel/electic system. the largest shipping motor they have in production is a 12 hp but they have a 20 hp 1000rpm engine in testing right now. We have been in discussions with them about a hybrid system for a

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-28 Thread Keith Addison
that NREL's pages on PNGV had vanished. Best wishes Keith -- RobT -----Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:19 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Hello Ted

RE: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-28 Thread RobT
cles'. -- RobT -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Keith Addison Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 2:19 AM To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Hello Ted >I'm interested in organizing a coalition aroun

Re: [Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-27 Thread Keith Addison
Hello Ted I'm interested in organizing a coalition around hybrid electric/biodiesel vehicles. Have you visited Darryl McMahon's website, Ecogenics? http://www.econogics.com/ I read that such products were manufactured early in the hybrid process, but later scrapped. Do you mean PNGV? The P

[Biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

2005-06-27 Thread Edward W. De Barbieri
I'm interested in organizing a coalition around hybrid electric/biodiesel vehicles. I read that such products were manufactured early in the hybrid process, but later scrapped. My thinking is that excluding Dino Fuel entirely is the way to go, without the difficutly of producing hydrogen fuel cel

[Biofuel] hybrid diesel

2004-11-21 Thread Gerald Johnson
Todd: Type in Seattle hybrid buses and youâll find an order for 235 hybrid diesel buses made by GM/Allison. Iâm so proud of British Columbia for their large purchase of The Toyota Prius. Sixty so far for government use and many Prius taxis hitting the streets. Seattle, Tacoma, and Olympia transit

[biofuel] Hybrid diesel-electric powertrains

2003-08-02 Thread Keith Addison
News from DieselNet: Hybrid diesel-electric powertrains + Solectria launches cross-country drive of hybrid vehicle Woburn, MA-based Solectria Corporation has launched a cross-country drive of a Class 7 truck with Solectria Corporation's "Super 7" drive system. The vehicle will visit 27 potent

Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-08 Thread Steve Spence
inal Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 10:17 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle > biofueledenergy wrote: > > >I stay in touch with the manufacturer and yes there are plans to offer a > >model to

Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-07 Thread Keith Addison
biofueledenergy wrote: >I stay in touch with the manufacturer and yes there are plans to offer a >model to the public. I will email the list and yourself with an update soon. Good news! Please do keep us informed. Best wishes Keith >In a message dated 10/7/2002 12:49:28 PM Pacific Daylight T

Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-07 Thread biofueledenergy
I stay in touch with the manufacturer and yes there are plans to offer a model to the public. I will email the list and yourself with an update soon. In a message dated 10/7/2002 12:49:28 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Has anyone heard anything more about the diesel

RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-10-07 Thread Hall, Edward C.
Has anyone heard anything more about the diesel 650 enduro that Kawasaki was developing for the military? I'm mostly interested in whether it'll be offered to the public? Ed - Lotsa diesel bikes here, by the way: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_bikes.html

RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-17 Thread Keith Addison
>I just purchased a gasoline powered 2 cycle engine >weedeater. > >I can remember some discussions concerning the use >of Bio diesel instead of Dino oil to provide lubrication >for the 2 cycle engine. > >How much Bio diesel do you add? > >I know that the ratio for Dino Oil is 32 parts gasoline >an

RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-17 Thread Mccall Tom WP US
part Dino oil (4 oz oil per gallon of gas). Also did someone use Ethanol and Bio diesel to run a 2 cylce engine on a bike? T -Original Message- From: Sean Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 5:19 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel

RE: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-16 Thread Sean Cook
Gee I just want to buy one.,.,.,., so much for U.S. production. -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 10:46 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle >http://www.ecycle.com/powerspo

Re: [biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-15 Thread Keith Addison
>http://www.ecycle.com/powersports/hybrid.htm We've had that thing reffed from our website for more than a year, and nothing seems to happen with it, still just the same, same old pictures, still not in production. "eCycle plans to introduce the hybrid motorcycle to beta testers in 2002." Tell

[biofuel] Hybrid Diesel Motorcycle

2002-06-15 Thread Appal Energy
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