Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-04-02 Thread rico suavae
IL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Seems to me that one of the biggest zealots was put to death about this time of year a while back.Crazy thing was,he didn't do it for just a few.He did it for you too.There's nothing

RE: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-04-01 Thread Mark McElvy
Amen! -Original Message- From: rico suavae [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 7:11 PM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics Seems to me that one of the biggest zealots was put to death about this time of year a while back.Crazy

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-04-01 Thread balaji
Hello Tad, - Original Message - From: "Tad Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 5:14 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > > >Well Tad, I've no wish to be antagonistic, but then you've been > >antagonistic,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-04-01 Thread Appal Energy
Drawing a blank here. Who is it that you are referring to? - Original Message - From: "rico suavae" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Seems to me that one of the biggest zealots was put

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-04-01 Thread rico suavae
ty. The other only a narrow corridor. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Further to which... > > http://www.alternet.org/story.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-04-01 Thread Keith Addison
Hi MM >On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 00:32:07 +0900, you wrote: > > >Hi Todd > > > >>All a bit sad. > > > >It would be less sad if it were the first time rather than an > >established and regular phenomenon. > > > >>It would appear that you're a bit more patient than I. > > > >I don't think so - you have mo

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-31 Thread murdoch
On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 00:32:07 +0900, you wrote: >Hi Todd > >>All a bit sad. > >It would be less sad if it were the first time rather than an >established and regular phenomenon. > >>It would appear that you're a bit more patient than I. > >I don't think so - you have more choice than I. > >>The "c

FW: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-31 Thread Ware, John
exchanges. thank you, John Ware -Original Message- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 5:49 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics All a bit sad. It would appear that you're a bit more patient t

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
n my plate to keep me busy for two >lifetimes. You and me both, and a lot of us here I think. Well, all we can do is get on with it a best we may. All best Keith >Todd Swearingen > >- Original Message - >From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-31 Thread Appal Energy
n my plate to keep me busy for two lifetimes. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 10:52 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Hi Todd and all > > Sorry to any that Tad has

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
sition the misleading information as truth and the >truth as "propaganda." Sounds as if you're more interested in what you want >to hear than accuracy or truth. > >So spin your wheels trying to fit square pegs into round holes. That's your >prerogative. But don&#

[biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-31 Thread Keith Addison
http://www.freezerbox.com/archive/article.asp?id=254 The Fake Parade BY JONATHAN MATTHEWS ENVIRONMENT | 12.3.2002 "Carrying his placard the man in front of me was clearly one of the poorest of the poor. His shoes were not only threadbare, they were tattered, merely rags barely being held toget

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-30 Thread Appal Energy
tew know nothing than tew know what ain't so." Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Tad Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > At 03:40 AM 3/30/2004 +0900, you wrote:

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-30 Thread Keith Addison
>At 03:40 AM 3/30/2004 +0900, you wrote: > >Well again Tad... > > > >Seems I was right about Mr Murdoch, sad. You're obviously > >well-intentioned, but I'm afraid many of those very same good > >intentions have been paving other people's roads to hell for quite a > >long time. > >It doesn't matter

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-30 Thread Tad Johnson
At 03:40 AM 3/30/2004 +0900, you wrote: >Well again Tad... > >Seems I was right about Mr Murdoch, sad. You're obviously >well-intentioned, but I'm afraid many of those very same good >intentions have been paving other people's roads to hell for quite a >long time. It doesn't matter. Talking about

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-30 Thread Appal Energy
r her code. One serves the broadest interests of humanity. The other only a narrow corridor. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Keith Addison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Furt

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread dcande01
Have you noticed that the american tabloids don't touch much on politics? Fred On Monday, Mar 29, 2004, at 02:49 US/Eastern, Tad Johnson wrote: > >> If I wanted SPIN I would read the National Enquirer. > > "The Guardian" might as well be the National Inquirer, and everyone > over there > seem

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Further to which... http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=18259 The Christian Taliban Best Keith > >Some really sick crap.. > > > >http://www.cdfe.org/ > > > >Pick a link. According to these asinigned zealots the sypmtoms are the cause > >of the disease. > >Some of them may be zealo

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Well again Tad... Seems I was right about Mr Murdoch, sad. You're obviously well-intentioned, but I'm afraid many of those very same good intentions have been paving other people's roads to hell for quite a long time. All the myths of Middle America, eh? I'll have to respond to some of them,

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread alex
This is what's keeps bugging me. At the pump diesel fuel is 66 C (Cdn) per litre. Bulk canola oil, grown here, in Ontario, $1.27 per litre , in 55 gal barrels (I have to pick it up). There seems to be a huge disparity in cost. At one end , its a processed diesel fuel, byproduct of crude oil, whi

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread robert luis rabello
Tad Johnson wrote: > I was quite surprised that a > list of > this subject (biodiesel) would contain anything political, nor why > there > would be > any reason for it to contain political propaganda. First of all, the subject of this list is NOT exclusive to biodiesel. Secondly, it is i

Re[2]: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Gustl Steiner-Zehender
Hallo Tad, Monday, 29 March, 2004, 06:44:21, you wrote: ...snip... TJ> Do we simply sit back and watch this happen every few years and TJ> not do anything about it? Is it somehow our fault that we were TJ> attacked on 9-11? Is it ok for terrorists to attack and kill not TJ> only Ameri

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Appal Energy
ginal Message - From: "J. Curtis Cheney, VII" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 7:31 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > Tad, > > I agree. Less politics and more biodiesel. > > > Cheers, > > J. Curtis Cheney, VII >

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Appal Energy
Swearingen - Original Message - From: "Tad Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, March 29, 2004 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics > > >Well Tad, I've no wish to be antagonistic, but then you've been > >antagonistic, ha

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread J. Curtis Cheney, VII
Tad, I agree. Less politics and more biodiesel. Cheers, J. Curtis Cheney, VII Tad Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Well Tad, I've no wish to be antagonistic, but then you've been >antagonistic, haven't you? I was posting a humorous view of your posting. I was quite surprised that a

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Tad Johnson
>Well Tad, I've no wish to be antagonistic, but then you've been >antagonistic, haven't you? I was posting a humorous view of your posting. I was quite surprised that a list of this subject (biodiesel) would contain anything political, nor why there would be any reason for it to contain politi

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
> >If I wanted SPIN I would read the National Enquirer. > >"The Guardian" might as well be the National Inquirer, and everyone over there >seems to bask in the conspiracy theories and the extreme left, taking both as >the ultimate truth. Actually all the articles I've read on the "The >Guardian" m

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Keith Addison
Mr Little >Mr. Addison, >You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility! Do I now. You haven't though, eh? Well, there wasn't any hostility, nor is there now, but I'll admit to a little impatience - never mind, it'll pass. All this means: "You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility!" is that y

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Tad Johnson
>If I wanted SPIN I would read the National Enquirer. "The Guardian" might as well be the National Inquirer, and everyone over there seems to bask in the conspiracy theories and the extreme left, taking both as the ultimate truth. Actually all the articles I've read on the "The Guardian" make "

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-29 Thread Bearpaw850
Mr. Addison, You seem to have a lot of pent up hostility! Again I have worked in and around industrial plants for 25 years, and I have had the misfortune of losing good men to an industrial accident, as well as having a disgruntled employee sabatoge a volatile process. I have been investigated

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hello C. Little >When I place myself on this E-Mail list, I was not aware political and >business bashing was part of the scheme. Good, then you can stay unaware of it, as it's not the case and there is no "scheme" here. >I have noticed that reports and reporters with pointed agendas never qui

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread jtcava
Great Idea!I'm there! Regards, John Lillie Bennett wrote: >>How do you feel about outlawing all corporate contributions to all >> >> >political > > >>parties and candidates, and limiting personal contributions to a >> >> >reasonable amount, > > >>say US$1000 (I am presuming you are

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Lillie Bennett
> How do you feel about outlawing all corporate contributions to all political > parties and candidates, and limiting personal contributions to a reasonable amount, > say US$1000 (I am presuming you are based in the U.S.) per election period per > candidate? > Oh, I'd vote for that in a second! I

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Darryl McMahon
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When I place myself on this E-Mail list, I was not aware political and > business bashing was part of the scheme. Over the time I have spent on this e-mail list, I have concluded there is no "scheme". It's a very open and educational forum, open to debate on a wide

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Bearpaw850
When I place myself on this E-Mail list, I was not aware political and business bashing was part of the scheme. I have noticed that reports and reporters with pointed agendas never quite tell the whole story..frankly because they don't want the whole story. Some folks just want to place blame

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Keith Addison
>Some really sick crap.. > >http://www.cdfe.org/ > >Pick a link. According to these asinigned zealots the sypmtoms are the cause >of the disease. Some of them may be zealots, but I think most of them are just... damn, the term that's used is "whores", but that's an abusive term for prostitu

[biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Keith Addison
Hi Todd >Well, Mr. Buck? As expected, Mr Buck cavils, twists and turns, and does everything but answer the question "Well, Mr. Buck?" It is unedifying, so I've kept it offlist until such a time as he's prepared to respond to what's been put before him in a forthright and even-handed manner.

Re: [biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread Appal Energy
Some really sick crap.. http://www.cdfe.org/ Pick a link. According to these asinigned zealots the sypmtoms are the cause of the disease. Think I'd rather bed down with the Taliban. At least their doctrine has some assemblance of social order and construct other than exploiting anything and

[biofuel] Re: Corporate ethics

2004-03-28 Thread appalenergy
Well, Mr. Buck? > ESBuck > > IF you don't mind, and even if you do, we can do without this toxic > "Wise Use" BS. > > YOU can believe it if you want, but posting it to a Biofuel mailing > list brings up a couple of questions. > > First, about your powers of discernment - don't you recognis