, February 10, 2003 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: trees was: RE: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions -
Newbie
If the leaves and smaller branches are left, that is more than enough,
because the large trees are getting most of the nutrients from the sub
soil
( that is not used by most plants
Well, doesn't something have to replenish the minerals that you took out
of the soil in the form of wood?
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Martin Klingensmith
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Hi Martin
In fact the trees do that themselves. The natural scheme of things
allows for a large amount of
://journeytoforever.org/farm_library/howardAT/AT9a.html
Best wishes
Keith
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Subject: Re: trees was: RE: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions -
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WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's $40 cord delivered for Oak, but
it's likely to be a minimum of 10 cords. Several People are selling
seasoned mixed Hardwoods for $35 for all you care to load into your
pickup.
Who in their right mind is wasting oak on firewood?? That stuff takes
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie
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You're probably looking at $300 then. Is the price of firewood in
your area worth messing with it?
I'm looking at around $225.00 a cord for soft woods, $300
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you can't put a cord of wood in a pickup truck. a cord of wood is 4
x 4 x 8
and weighs 2 tons.
Steve Spence
WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's $40 cord delivered for Oak,
but
it's likely to be a minimum of
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You're probably looking at $300 then. Is the price of firewood
Robin Parker wrote:
Who in their right mind is wasting oak on firewood?? That stuff takes
forever to grow!
But oak trees do die. They make fantastic fire wood and that is all I
burn. I would never cut down a live one, no need, there are plenty of
dead ones to harvest.
Bright
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You're probably looking at $300
--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Robin Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's $40 cord delivered for Oak,
but
it's likely to be a minimum of 10 cords. Several People are
selling
seasoned mixed Hardwoods for $35 for all you care to load into
your
pickup.
Well, doesn't something have to replenish the minerals that you took out
of the soil in the form of wood?
---
Martin Klingensmith
infoarchive.net [archive.nnytech.net]
nnytech.net
Robin,
Time is a relative thing. Compared to Radishes, Corn takes a long
time to grow, but we don't stop using
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Obviously we are talking about face cords and full cords...or as
some
like to call them, minor cords and major cords.
;-)
Edward Beggs
I was talking about full cords, and the weight is actually closer to
3
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Subject: Re: trees was: RE: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions -
Newbie
Well, doesn't something have to replenish the minerals that you took out
of the soil in the form
HI Greg,
Inregards to planting replacement tress i would go with a native deep rooted
tree like a oak or hickery. They are slow growing, have deep tap roots that
do not get into sewer pipes or septic tanks, you can eat the nuts
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Subject: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions - Newbie
You're probably looking at $300 then. Is the price of firewood in
your area worth messing with it?
I'm
of the
Silver. Perhaps an Ash on the southwest corner?
Greg H.
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HI Greg,
Inregards to planting replacement tress i would
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You're probably looking at $300 then. Is the price of firewood in
your area worth messing with it?
I'm looking at around $225.00 a cord for soft woods, $300 for hard
wood.
WOW! I'm in culture shock. Here it's
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You're probably looking at $300 then. Is the price of firewood in
your
of tree would be a good replacement perhaps a silver or red maple)
Greg H.
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Greg,
Aside from
and some questions - Newbie
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3 very large pines in the yard, 2 of which are very close to the
house ( the
trunks are less than 8 ft. from a wall ).
Greg H.
I don't see how the technique could be used to cut a few
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I checked already, they would charge me for hauling away the wood
even if I
have them leave it so I can burn it in my fireplace.
Greg H.
Have you checked with several different companies? What prices are
they
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Have you checked with several different companies?
8 of them, and none willing to give me a break
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Motie,
High pressure water was commonly used to debark logs in sawmills
the US until about 1970 when environmental regulations limited water
discharge. Since then most all hydraulic debarkers have disappeared
in favor of
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Hey Motie,
How long is that Non-disclosure in effect? I like the idea of not
using a
dirty / messy chain saw.
Greg H.
It's for 3 years, and I can't discuss the Project or the results, but
Hydro-cutting is a
3 very large pines in the yard, 2 of which are very close to the house ( the
trunks are less than 8 ft. from a wall ).
Greg H.
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know where you live, but I'd pay dear for trees that
offered any degree of shade over a roofline.
Todd Swearingen
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3 very large pines in the yard, 2 of which are very close to the
house ( the
trunks are less than 8 ft. from a wall ).
Greg H.
I don't see how the technique could be used to cut a few trees in
a 'field' setting.
This sort of stuff has been around for ages. It is also used in the steel
fabrication industry to cut steel. If memory serves me correctly, in some
situations ground industrial diamond is also added to the water for that
little
extra zing.
I have not seen this operation in use
prior to discharge. It was a
clean and efficient method of debarking with very little fiber loss.
Tom
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Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:53 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Introduction and some questions
Hey Motie,
How long is that Non-disclosure in effect? I like the idea of not using a
dirty / messy chain saw.
Greg H.
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--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There is an out of print book Novel Drilling Technoques that in
the second
edition talks about cutting sandstone at several meters per second
with
liquid pressures of that magnitude. Granite I think was 7cm per
second if
memory
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