Re: [swinog] Telegram group

Whow, just whow After years of this mailing list slowly rotting away, someone takes an approach and tries to give back life to the group. And now suddenly, people are crawling from beneath their rocks and have much better ideas, on how this could have been done all along. Crawl back under y

Re: [swinog] bad dog

Please don't abuse our otherwiese quite spam-free mailinglist. We care about networking issues and not about art projects or whatever your site is about. Viktor Zitat von Philippe Strauss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > now there's a dog with a rather bad attitude looking at > my cats. I don't know what

Re: [swinog] Internet-Provider kämpfen gemeinsam gegen Spam

Update: This morning Mr. Green Honegger was speaking on DRS3 about, what they are planning to do. Basically he was saying, that each of the 4 large providers will try to find out, which or their own customers are spamming and that they will try to stop them from doing so. Whow. Big deal. Never wo

Re: [swinog] Why Swisscom/Bluewin can't get M$ IPTV to fly

Great article. I've been wondering for a long time, why Swisscom would rather go with MS than with an open-source based solution. There's plenty of great open-source projects in the video-streaming and media-center sector. The cost to hire a few capable developers to create a consumer-friendly pac

Re: [swinog] Why Swisscom/Bluewin can't get M$ IPTV to fly

Uhm... - actually I do work at a large company. Usage of OpenSource is not a question of the company size, but of the company management. However I understand the managers... OpenSource developers don't invite managers to a weekend in a mountain wellness resort, offer them free drinks at events or

Re: [swinog] Need Rules for this list.

Look here: http://www.swinog.ch/charter/index.asp Other than that there are some unwritten rules (which I'll write down right now :-)) It's usually considered O.k. to - post job offers in the ISP field - ask for or sell ISP related hardware (routers, switches, firewalls etc.) - post Links to We

Re: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage

As you might or might not know, most ISPs are strongly agains blocking websites and will only do so, if ordered by court. AFAIK it only happened once until now, by a judge in Vaud (we all remember the trouble this caused). The problem with blocking pages is, that it doesn't work and/or scale. If y

RE: [swinog] FW: Blocking request of a homepage

If a advertisements for a website are made via spam, it could make sense to block access to that site. In any case, that block would have to be done by the hosting provider of the site. Zitat von Olivier Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi there, > > I don't understand the link between blocking a web

Re: [swinog] NetFlow

We used netflow on all external interfaces towards upstream & peerings, so we could find out, how much traffic we were exchaning with which AS. It's quite a nice feature for peering policy decisions (or the decision, if you should change your upstream) The tool we used was flowscan (http://ww

Re: [swinog] swiss jurisprudence regarding spam

O.k., let's take on the next task... [x] Declare Spamming illegal [ ] Declare protection of Music CDs illegal [ ] Declare Region-Protection of DVDs illegal [ ] ... ;-) Viktor Zitat von Christa Pfister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: at last: http://www.vpb.admin.ch/deutsch/doc/69/69.106.html very shor

Re: [swinog] swiss jurisprudence regarding spam

Uh... maybe that's true for the players. Try to buy a Region-1 DVD in CH... (yes, I know that Amazon.com etc. are shipping from the US, but that's not the point) Cheers, Viktor Zitat von Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: The regio protection is already declared illegal in Switzerland. Or why

[swinog] Checkpoint Flaw

Hi all We've found a flaw in the Checkpoint SecureClient NGX, which makes it a "not-really-secure Client"... Does anyone on this list have a direct contact to Checkpoint Quality Control, so I don't have to go the long and hard way of explaining the flaw to 10 different people at our reseller...?

Re: [swinog] Checkpoint Flaw

make the internet a safer place :-) Cheers, Viktor Zitat von Viktor Steinmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hi all We've found a flaw in the Checkpoint SecureClient NGX, which makes it a "not-really-secure Client"... Does anyone on this list have a direct contact to Checkpoint Qu

Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages

Well - don't know, how many of your read the jobs.ch jobmail, but if you do, you have probably noticed, that sunrise is looking for experienced network engineers for a long time now... I guess, they don't have a technical, but a HR problem ;-) Too bad, their offices are in the totally wrong pla

Re: [swinog] Swisscom Fixnet wants to pay CHF 15 Mio for Cybernet

Well, Fredy Looks like you'll have to generate a huge loss, before you can sell Init7 ;-) I can help spending some useless money, if you want... Cheers, Viktor Zitat von Fredy Kuenzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: It's somewhat OT here (not technical), but I guess a general interest: Swisscom Fixne

Re: [swinog] cost of class-C IP block

Hi Umbi It depends :-) If you are a good customer of an ISP (say, you buy a fat leased line or you rent some racks in his datacenter), the ISP will usually organize the IP addresses for free. But this will be PA space, meaning, it's provider dependent. If you change the provider, you lose the

Re: [swinog] Cablecom blockages out of control?

No offense, but did you ever call the helpdesk of your company? I had the joy to do so, and I'd rather have sex with a cheese grater, than calling that number again. Cheers, Viktor Zitat von Marc Ammann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: There are some ways you can go, to get in touch with a company [1] vi

Re: [swinog] Cisco parts for sale..

sorry for this kind of spam.. You know that it's spam and you still do it? Sorry, but you're a moron. (I said "sorry", so it doesn't matter) Let's ban this guy and get back to busines... Thanks, Viktor ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch

RE: [swinog] Cisco parts for sale..

You're right. It's probably a matter of personal taste. If a techie working at a Swiss ISP sells a few things, I don't have a problem. But if an unknown person simply post a list of stuff, that looks like a list from a professional used-hardware dealer, with no prices or information, where the

[swinog] Datacenters

Hello all We're looking for some space (somewhere between 1-3 racks) in a datacenter in the Zurich area. It should offer at least the following features: - UPS and Diesel generator to operate during longer power outages - Security such as the possibilty to get a separate cage for our racks -

Re: [swinog] Rules for used hardware selling

I agree with Steven. Just one addition: The hardware should be in Switzerland. We don't want to pay a fortune for shipping, duty and taxes. Cheers, Viktor Steven Glogger wrote: i personally think that if you're not a professional hardware dealer who wants to use swinog as a new market opport

Re: [swinog] About the Fiber Cut in Augst yesterday; reasons, consequences and solutions

My company was not directly affected by this issue, but nevertheless I'd like to thank you for this direct and open communication. This is the stuff, people need to know, when dealing with angry customers... Regards, Viktor Guillaume Leclanche wrote: Hello, As some of you probably already kn

Re: [swinog] Reset DSCP/IP-PREC field

It's not only allowed but recommended ;-) Cheers, Viktor Marcel Leuenberger wrote: HiYa! Just want to ask you if it is "allowed" to reset the IP-PRECEDENCE/DSCP-Field to Zero (or any other value) at the border of an ISP network? Means there is no problem if an IP-Transit provider reset the

Re: [swinog] [OT] Announcement: Birth of our son

Very nice! All the best wishes for the new SwiNOG member :-) Cheers, Viktor Tobias Orlamuende wrote: Hi folks, last Saturday our son - Leon - was born. He had a weight of 3460 g and a size of 50 cm. If you are interrested, have a look at his gallery which will be updated regulary. http://le

Re: [swinog] Out-of-Office Policies?

Hi Matthias et al Out-of-Office notifications are not just "nonsense" as you state in your mail. In a very service-oriented business, where the person-to-person relationship is important, it makes sense for the customer to know, that his personal contact is not available. Please Remember: Te

Re: [swinog] I think we must change to france

At least that would finally enable Bluewin-TV ;-))) SCNR Viktor Xaver Aerni wrote: /"Presence-pc at reports that France Telecom just announced they are //offering 2.5 Gb/s internet connection/ / to select cities in the Paris region.

[swinog] New SwiNOG Member

Hi all I'm glad to announce, that SwiNOG has a new member: Jonas Justus Steinmann was born yesterday (2.8.2006) at 07:53. He's 50.5 cm, 2780g and healthy. Cheers, Viktor P.S.: If anybody wants to visit us, please contact me first off-list. ___ sw

Re: [swinog] Formmailer-Scripts and Spam

About that lynx discussion... I don't think you're losing a single customer because your websites don't support lynx. Usually people want to see a picture of the product they're buying. And then there's the aspect, of who your target-market is. Usually it's not the Linux-Geek (and even if it i

[swinog] Job Offer

Hi all The company I'm working for (20 employees) is looking for an IT techie. Here are the needs: MUST - Oracle experience - Linux/Unix experience - English language skills - Willing to work in Zug OPTIONAL (Bonus points) - Networking experience with Cisco devices (BGP, switching) - Windows s

Re: [swinog] JOB: Senior Network Engineer, Schlieren/ZH

No one had the guts to write some numbers until now? Let's heat up that discussion a little with meat on the bone... It depends on the location, age and company size. In Zuerich, mid-sized company I'd say: Age 25+ minimum 95'000 per year Age 30+ minimum 105'000 per year etc. I guess it's impo

Re: [swinog] to SPF or not to SPF

Nowadays, every sicko can buy a .com domain for 9$ or even less. Spammers buy domains, put correct SPF records in their zonefiles and throw the domain away afterwards... (just like you did with hotmail accounts a few years back :-)) So IMHO DNS based spam fighting doesn't work. At least not th

Re: [swinog] Eines der ersten Urteile gegen Spamer ist draussen

Well, obviously the judges didn't know, that the usual opt-out links are used to verify mail addresses. This should have been pointed out clearly. Maybe next time... Cheers, Viktor Xaver Aerni wrote: Hallo, Der Kanton Zug hat das erste Urteil gegen das Antispamgesetz verkündet. Dabei stellt

Re: [swinog] Strange BIND 8.3 behaviour

Difficult to tell, but could it be, that the zhaw.ch zonefile looks like this? $ORIGIN NS ns1.zhaw.ch. $ORIGIN NS ns2.zhaw.ch. If yes, why not change that to $ORIGIN NS ns1.zhwin.ch. $ORIGIN NS ns2.zhwin.ch. The NS records should match the NS entries in the zonefile - then you

Re: [swinog] Candid Aeby is out of the office.

That's the reason, why I started using my private mail address for mailing-lists. Others use special accounts on their private domain (such as [EMAIL PROTECTED]). No hassle with braindead mail servers and equally challenged mail admins. Furthermore it's easier, if Christian's assumption is righ

[swinog] Some well known faces ;-)

I hope this link works: http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?catid=schweizaktuell&docid=20071010&nr=4&videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.xobix.ch%2Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2Fvod%2Fchak%2F2007%2F10%2Fchak_20071010.rm%3Fstart%3D0%3A08%3A17.989%26amp%3Bend%3D0%3A13%3A23.211 Otherwise go to http://www.sf.tv -> SF V

[swinog] Some well known faces...

I hope this link works: http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?catid=schweizaktuell&docid=20071010&nr=4&videourl=http%3A%2F%2Freal.xobix.ch%2Framgen%2Fsfdrs%2Fvod%2Fchak%2F2007%2F10%2Fchak_20071010.rm%3Fstart%3D0%3A08%3A17.989%26amp%3Bend%3D0%3A13%3A23.211 Otherwise to to http://www.sf.tv -> SF Vi

Re: [swinog] Some well known faces...

Sorry for sending this twice... the mailserver gave an error but obviously the mail was still delivered... and I already had deleted the text *grmbl* Viktor Steinmann wrote: I hope this link works: http://www.sf.tv/var/videoplayer.php?catid=schweizaktuell&docid=20071010&nr=4&vide

Re: [swinog] New cisco dealer ?

I know, that I'm partly off-topic now, but this topic bothers me for some time now and I want to hear some opinions/experiences from other SwiNOG members. Cisco has a real problem with their service contract administration. I have access to service contracts that don't belong to our company (f

Re: [swinog] Swisscom outage - details?

The Link was on http://www.heise.de. So this is some sort of Slashdot-Effect. In German: "Die Seite wurde geheised" ;-) Cheers, Viktor Andre Keller wrote: Hi Fredy I don't believe the DDOS story. Yes, some DDOS may have occurred, but it's not the real reason. Is blogg.ch under DDOS at the Mo

Re: [swinog] Swisscom outage - details?

http://www.heise.de/security/news/foren/go.shtml?read=1&msg_id=13937832&forum_id=127692 Moritz Kobel wrote: Am Thursday den 22. November 2007 schrieb Andre Keller: I don't believe the DDOS story. Yes, some DDOS may have occurred, but it's not the real reason. Is blogg.ch under DDOS

RE: [swinog] KVM-over-IP

We use the HP solution, because it adds only one more Cat5 Cable per Server to the racks, whereas other solutions are just a nightmare to keep your cabling decent looking. http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/rack-options/scs/ index-kvm.html Pricing is OK IMHO, YMMV Cheers,

RE: [swinog] KVM-over-IP

Sorry, just found out, that they're EOL. But maybe there's one on Ebay ;-) Cheers, Viktor > http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/servers/proliantstorage/rac > k-options/scs/ > index-kvm.html ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swi

RE: [swinog] Graphical NetFlow AS stats tool?

In my old ISP days, I used JFFNMS for this (http://www.jffnms.org/) It was very easy to configure and besides its stupid name, that thingy was quite useful. Time has gone by (4 years or so) and it might have become more useful since then. As usual, YMMV Cheers, Viktor Original Message F

Re: [swinog] Notice of Copyright Infringement - How do you proceed?

As an ISP, you do... - what a customers pays for - what the law requires Is either the case here? Nope. If anybody wants you to do work for them - and forwarding messages to people, who's IP you'll have to grep out of Logfiles first (in the worst case) *is* work - this entity should pay for i

Re: [swinog] Firewall recommendation for a rack of webservers?

I've worked with all different kinds of Firewalls - Raptor Eagle (now Symantec), ipfilter/iptables/ipchains/pf etc., Watchguard, Checkpoint, PIX/ASA among them. One thing that I have learned: The most important feature of a firewall is not it's filtering ability - every single firewall nowadays

Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

> An admin that still allows such autoreplies should be tarred > and feathered and hunted out of the city. He/she has no > business in running a mailserver. You were right, if a mail-admin was actually the person with the right to decide on the auto-reply policy. Unfortunately in most organizat

[swinog] List policy discussion (was: Check out my Facebook profile)

Hi all In the last months we've seen more and more end-user questions, vacation-bounces, off-topic and spam-like mails on the list. Any suggestions how to keep the noise level low in the future? Kind regards, Viktor _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R

Re: [swinog] IP Management Tool

We also spent some weeks searching for a tool and finally installed IPPlan. Seems to be the only free (and useable) alternative to managing IP addresses on a Spreadsheet... Kind regards, Viktor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tissie

Re: [swinog] IP Management Tool

I cannot speak for all, but as for us, we want to manage ALL IPs in one tool - even the RFC1918 IPs for internal use. Kind regards, Viktor > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael Theurl > Sent: Donnerstag, 13. November 2008 11:43 >

Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

Same same, but different...? http://www.mail-archive.com/swi...@swinog.ch/msg00847.html Kind regards, Viktor Andreas Fink wrote: > Hello Collegues, > > Today I got a document sent to us because we are listed as ISP. You > probably have all received it as well. > Its a case of a Party A against

Re: [swinog] Name suggestion

Hey Rich No clue, what to name this, but... ...GIMME!!! Cheers, Viktor > -Original Message- > From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch > [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Richard > Sent: Dienstag, 19. Mai 2009 11:03 > To: swi...@swinog.ch > Subject: [swinog] Name suggest

Re: [swinog] Ansatz zur Umgehung der Echtzeitüberwac hung ;-)

The concept is flawed. If I want you to get rid of all your ADSL-customers, I'll send fake child-porn proof to the EJPD associated with your IP range. Sounds like a business model... Cheers, Viktor > Koennte man nicht ernsthaft in diese Richtung arbeiten? > Echtzeitueberwachungen wird es, realis

Re: [swinog] Functional Tests - only Nagios?

We do all our checks with Hobbit http://hobbitmon.sourceforge.net/ It has been renamed to Xymon lately, but you'll find more scripts and stuff on the net if you google for Hobbit. While it doesn't have a very nice interface, it scales very good and you can so your own checks very easily. We have

Re: [swinog] Geolocating IP's

Dear Stefan One possible source of that problem could be outdated databases of a geolocation service provider. There are some commercial providers (e.g. ip2location.com) which offer geolocation of IPs as a serivce. This makes sense sometimes, when e.g. a network spans multiple regions and/or coun

Re: [swinog] Wie wird eine E-Mail uebermittelt?

Despite the joy of seeing Arnold on TV (and in the last issue of c't b.t.w), this is probably the worst movie about "how the internet/mail works" *ever*. Actually it's so bad, that it has some entertainment value. Examples: Internet traffic is split into packets at the provider's permises, not

Re: [swinog] Probleme mit Resolving nic.ch

You might want to search for layer 2 problems such as MTU problems e.g. imagine Jumbo Frames on a network, where one switch/router doesn't support them. I once had a lng headache because of such a silly misconfiguration... Cheers, Viktor On 06.07.2010 11:13, Klaus Ethgen wrote: -BEGI

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

I agree, that SWITCH should not have included this "switchplus" part in their info mail, as it's completely unrelated to the rest of the information. Also the banner on their website doesn't belong there, as no other entity can buy banner space there. The best reaction might be a letter to the

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domain registry switch/nic.ch

Um... after only surfing their webpage for 30 seconds I found this: Aus den Statuten: "Die Stiftung bezweckt, die nötigen Grundlagen für den wirksamen Gebrauch moderner Methoden der Teleinformatik im Dienste der Lehre und Forschung in der Schweiz zu schaffen, zu fördern, anzubieten, sich an s

Re: [swinog] Subliminal advertising / Spam from our domainregistryswitch/nic.ch

You might be right about that: http://www.inside-channels.ch/frontend/insidechannels?_d=_article&site=ic&news.id=21706 Btw ... AFAIK the WEKO is currently investigating this issue. -- Martin __

Re: [swinog] Best Sales 2010!

IMHO the time for moderation has arrived... On 10.08.2010 08:59, swinog@lists.swinog.ch wrote: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ytukovp/message ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog __

Re: [swinog] BÜPF...again ;)

We probably all followed the discussion in Germany about the "Bundestrojaner" and how it failed. And of course, a trojan spying on citizens is a major impact in privacy, which is not acceptable. However I don't think, that it's possible to create such a trojan and use it, because of the foll

Re: [swinog] BÜPF...again ; )

It's a poor world some of the SwiNOG members live in. - Facebook bashing is hip among the IT community. However on Facebook you only share what you want to share and you can even lie about all of your personal details, even create a fake personality. If you have privacy concerns, don't put it

Re: [swinog] IP address are now personal data

I haven't decided yet, if that's a good thing or not. But could you point us to an online source for this news? Google isn't very helpful at the moment. Thanks, Viktor On 08.09.2010 12:25, Pascal Gloor wrote: Dear community, something important for us happened today that may have some impact

[swinog] Looking for Linux System Engineer

Hallo zusammen Wir suchen einen Linux System Engineer, der gerne auch an anderen Dingen rumschrauben darf, falls Interesse besteht (z.B. Router, SwissIX-Peerings, Switches, Firewalls, Datenbanken, Windows... you name it). Die Person soll fliessend *DEUTSCH* sprechen und schreiben, weshalb ich

Re: [swinog] Looking for Linux System Engineer

Soll natürlich off-list, nicht offline heissen ;-) On 30.09.2010 13:33, Viktor Steinmann wrote: Hallo zusammen Wir suchen einen Linux System Engineer, der gerne auch an anderen Dingen rumschrauben darf, falls Interesse besteht (z.B. Router, SwissIX-Peerings, Switches, Firewalls, Datenbanken

Re: [swinog] RANCID alternative

Hey Stan Great idea. One feature I've been missing in rancid for a long time is the possibility to have a "one-stop-shop" for emergency recovery. While the configuration is saved to CVS, the IOS and other important files such as "vlan.dat" are missing. It would be great, if this new tool wou

Re: [swinog] BGP Origin ASN Validation

Wouldn't that do it? ! route-map bar deny 10 match invalid ! Cheers, Viktor On 15.11.2010 11:06, tim wrote: Hi all, About the talk "BGP Origin ASN Validation" from Roque Gagliano at SwiNOG #21 I talked afterwards with him with the following remark: Roque showed a route-map like this one: ro

Re: [swinog] SMS from analog modem

On 10.12.2010 15:02, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: why not using a Siemens GSM terminal? It has the same RS232 port and AT command set, and you don't need a copper line (you would of course need a SIM card). We use that one too, and it works like a charm. However it's not possible to operate a GSM d

Re: [swinog] Anti-virus solution for Linux mail server

On 01.03.2011 5:34, Philip Iezzi wrote: What other solutions are small hosting providers using next to ClamAV? What are you using? We're using Kaspersky on Linux. The scanning engine doesn't add much to the CPU load and it integrates into postfix like a charm. Actually, the setup script does

Re: [swinog] Virtualization for Webhosters / OpenVZ

Dear Philip While we're not a hosting provider, we still do have a lot of experience with virtualization platforms. We are currently running ~150 vSphere and Citrix XenServer servers and we've played around with Xen, KVM and others. Two things I would like to give as advice: - Storge is ofte

[swinog] Swinog-22 Train ride

Dear all As promised, I uploaded the video from the train ride @ SwiNOG 22. ;-) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0I6My2QY87k Kind regards, Viktor ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

Re: [swinog] Triton Racks

Uhh... I've had bad experiences with cheap racks. Not exactly this brand, but nevertheless... I've experiened... ...rack front mount rails started to bend, after putting in some front-only mounted equipment (such as switches) ...only 50% of all industry standard log nuts fitted into the log n

Re: [swinog] New list for jobs

We have a SwiNOG list for anti-spam, for lawful interception and now for jobs...? What's next? Lists for hardware offerings, IPv6, events...? I'm a little concerned, that we'll lose overview. Care to explain, why the board thinks, that this is necessary? A job offer once in a while doesn't hur

Re: [swinog] Swisscom VDSL -> TELIA -> USA problem

Hi Thomas First of all - it might be a place to ask for help, if it was a Swiss peering or routing problem. Given the traceroute you posted, it doesn't look like there's much that can be done in Switzerland. On 2nd thought... as VDSL customer, you're on "best effort" and have no guarantees

Re: [swinog] IT Datacenter consulting

Hi Olivier If "Applied Science" doesn't include building and maintenance of server rooms, I'd rent one. Building and maintaining a server room for "just" 120m2 doesn't make sense IMHO. Cheers, Viktor On 05.03.2012 13:38, Olivier Beytrison wrote: Hello, The University of Applied Science in

Re: [swinog] Maintenance windows

Hi Matthias This depends on your customer base. Fact is, that you'll never have a window where no customer is affected. However you'll have that certain spot in your RRDs, where the usage is the lowest. This would probably your preferred maintenance window. In my recent jobs, the sweet spot

Re: [swinog] IPv6 de-aggregation

I'm really not into IPv6, but routing Prefixes from an AS which has no peering or transit relationship with you has never been a good idea in the IPv4 world. I'd be also interested if that's still true in the IPv6 world. Kind regards, Viktor On 27.04.2012 10:09, john.coll...@bit.admin.ch wrot

Re: [swinog] Pro / Contra Backup MX?

Heya Benoit Here's the view from a Business customer, who used to work for ISPs: > - Why would business customers _need_ their ISP to operate a backup MX for them? - If the customer is multihomed, there's almost no need for this. One exception: Customer wants to catch possible misconfigurati

Re: [swinog] hosting for 1 powersupply with lan port

Interesting topic, especially looking at the current cloud trends. We've been discussing this internally and came to the conclusion, that as long as someone has physical access to a server, he will always be capable of reading the data on that server with more or less effort. Even using a high

Re: [swinog] [swinog-antispam] Calling all stations!

Dear Lukas I guess it's not a coincidence, that you're trying to sell something to this list, just after the "call for sponsors" for SwiNOG 25 has gone out. It's just that: Next time, please send your sponsoring application to swinog-core, not to the technical discussion lists. Kind regards

[swinog] Compaq/HP Racks

Hi all I have some 19" racks to give away for free: 2 x Compaq rack 1 x HP rack (basically the same as the 2 Compaq racks, but with HP logo) 1 x whatever rack... but 19" (see Picture) Pickup Location: Zug Those racks are in perfect condition, just not used anymore. Please contact me off-list,

Re: [swinog] Data Centre near Bern

Since this is a smartass list in general, I'll retort: A "100 km circle area" is wrong in general, because areas are described in square meters or square kilometers. Your description contains a distance unit, and it's very logical to assume the distance from the center of the area, also called

Re: [swinog] Work Practices of Cyber Security Professionals

Keep this in mind when answering (sorry, german only): http://blog.fefe.de/?ts=afed4222 Cheers, Viktor On 03.03.2014 15:32, Adnan, Muhammad wrote: Dear Group Members, I am a university researcher who is investigating the development of new, usable tools that will improve the work practices o

Re: [swinog] Cisco router configuration for a Swisscom VDSL subscriber

Is it 1960? One of the mail positive points of a mailing list is, that others can profit from knowledge shared. So if you have that knowledge, please share it here and some poor googling person might find the answer to this exact question in this very mailing-list archive at some point in th

Re: [swinog] Swiss VoIP providers

> Curious however about recommendations for VoIP providers in .ch there aren't that many around unfortunately. would love to hear some suggestions (backed by experiece). We have a redundant SIP uplink (2 different datacenters) to upc-cablecom. Pricing is OK, quality is OK, support is very prof

Re: [swinog] Auskunft über Personendaten / deutsches Recht anwendbar?

There was another german ruling, that pornography does not fulfill the requirements to be protected under copyright law... See this article (German only): http://www.chip.de/news/Urteil-Raubkopien-primitiver-Pornos-nicht-strafbar_62826633.html Might be an angle to approach this case ;-) Kind

Re: [swinog] New .exe virus in.zip file via mail

On 17.04.2015 08:11, Slavo Greminger wrote: So, what can you do? Blocking all non-allowed executables on Windows is a good start (whitelist approach). Well, maybe not for home-users, but in an office environment this makes absolute sense. Google for Applocker. Kind regards, Viktor __

Re: [swinog] TCP timestamps

Dear André Ignore this crap. Really. We do 1-2 external security audits per year and I’ve seen incredible crap in those reports. My favorites are things like “Hostname mail.domain.com suggests this is a mail server. Consider changing it to something not so obvious.” and a few lines furth

Re: [swinog] Zurich SwiNOG Beering 2017, dates, agenda, suggestions

On 20.12.2016 11:26, Emanuel Kleindienst wrote: Ladies & Gentlemen, Hey Sire! - how shall we have the Beerings in 2017? Keep it like it was. I'll promise to join more often ;-) - Still always on Mondays? Suggestions? I like Monday, because then you have something to look forward to on an o

Re: [swinog] Zurich SwiNOG Beering 2017, dates, agenda, suggestions

On 20.12.2016 15:37, Gregor Riepl wrote: How about Bern, Lausanne, Basel, St. Gallen, or somewhere else once in a while? The original idea of the beer event was, to meet with a smaller group of geeks more often than during the "official" SwiNOG meetings, locally. We started our "chapter" in Z

Re: [swinog] Zurich SwiNOG Beering 2017, dates, agenda, suggestions

On 22.12.2016 13:22, jerome.tissie...@swisscom.com wrote: I work sometimes in Zurich but unfortunately my German is a disaster, is there any non-german speaking people coming sometimes? We've had non-german speaking joiners from time to time. As long as you don't expect anyone to speak french,

Re: [swinog] UPC Mailservers problems with greylisting

On 04.01.2017 08:54, Per Jessen wrote: Is there any point in greylisting genuine mailservers? We only greylist dodgy-looking setups. /Per I don't see how this approach would scale. We greylist everything. If some mail servers appear to have a problem with that and are legit, they are white

Re: [swinog] Swinog-be?

Guys... is there any news on this topic? Regards, Viktor On 23.05.2017 20:18, Steven Glogger wrote: Emanuel & Co. Is there still any beer event? gruss -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/l

Re: [swinog] datacomm/vtxnet and quicknet/kfsb are missing TLS on their mailservers

Mimimi? Seriously? If you chose to configure TLS mandatory, you'll have to live with the fact, that some servers will not offer this service. Don't try to force others to apply your policy, instead relax your own policy. You can still monitor your maillog for non-TLS connections and from tim

Re: [swinog] What email headers need to be understood by a PGP/MIME enabled email client?

How about the Enigmail-Plugin for Thunderbird? On 15.02.2018 15:35, Benoit Panizzon wrote: Well, I know no clients which support RFC4880 when generating or decoding PGP encrypted emails. How about the SWINOG Community? ___ swinog mailing list swin

Re: [swinog] DNSSEC Training with PowerDNS

Hi Michael It seems, there's quite an interest in this, as the training in Zurich is already fully booked. Any chance for a 2nd training in Zurich? Kind regards, Viktor On 27.02.2018 16:13, Michael Hausding wrote: Dear all SWITCH is organising a one day DNSSEC training together with Power

[swinog] Beer Events 2018

Dear fellow SwiNOGers I have decided, to organize some Beer Events in the Zurich area for 2018, as the tradition must live on... Here are the dates for 2018: Monday, 9. April 2018 Monday, 4. June 2018 Monday, 3. September 2018 Monday, 1. October 2018 Monday, 3. December 2018 As you can see, w

[swinog] Swinog-BE165 - Beer Event 165 @ Kings Cave / ZH

who not. If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 95 18). Kind regards, Viktor Steinmann (aka Stony) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog

[swinog] Swinog-BE166 - Beer Event 166 @ Korner / ZH

og.be/ --- Since we have to make reservations, I need to know who's coming and who not. If you can't attend and you're registered please inform me ASAP (078 602 95 18). Kind regards, Viktor Steinmann (aka Stony) ___

Re: [swinog] mirror.switch.ch to be closed down

Thanks for bringing this to our attention Fredy. Most of us would have missed it probably. It's a pity, they're shutting down this service. This has been an institution. Reliable and trusted. Unfortunately, there is no real explanation, why they're discontinuing the service. Care to comment,

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