Re: t-and-f: USATF as Enron: Rethinking the hiring of CEO?

2002-01-30 Thread koala
I remember when USATF was doing the "exec search" that's been discussed here. One of the observations at that time was that exec searches for top-notch talent (example: the NBA Donald Stern model) are a VERY competitive endeavour. In other words, USATF would have to compete ($) with large cor

RE: t-and-f: Question

2002-01-30 Thread malmo
They are facetious forms meaning Laughing Out Loud and Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud. malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William H. Allen Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:43 PM To: T and F List Subject: t-and-f: Question

Re: t-and-f: USATF as Enron: Rethinking the hiring of CEO?

2002-01-30 Thread Edward Koch
Ken, The USOC went the route you suggest in picking their previous CEO with disastrous results. He lasted less than a year. Their new CEO at least has some background as a college basketball player and high school quartermiler. The difference between USATF and a typical business corporation is

Re: t-and-f: Question

2002-01-30 Thread koala
On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 20:43:04 -0800, you wrote: >Who can tell me what LOL and ROTFLOL mean? And, whoe er can, would he or >she do so. Thank you. > >Bill Allen Try this codebreaker tool: http://www.abbrevguide.com/index.php RT

t-and-f: Question

2002-01-30 Thread William H. Allen
Who can tell me what LOL and ROTFLOL mean? And, whoe er can, would he or she do so. Thank you. Bill Allen

t-and-f: re: USATF Advertising

2002-01-30 Thread Michael J. Roth
For all the people bashing USATF history of not having a marketing/advertising plan, please stay tuned to your TV and other media. When the Winter Games end, things will start moving. I haven't actually seen the stuff they're going to do, but in speaking with their Marketing Mgr, it will be good

t-and-f: Gift Horses, Omega and Advertising

2002-01-30 Thread Usatfcom99
Regarding Jim Gerweck's post on Omega, as well as general postings on USATF advertising (only some of which I have had to opportunity to read): The short version of my response to Jim would be simply, "Huh?" I don't know where this generated, nor do I know why a journalist would post this kind

t-and-f: re: Molly Huddle

2002-01-30 Thread Michael J. Roth
This decision is typical of the asinine rules makers in NY. These people continually make decisions, in all sports, that have noting to do with the best interests of the student-athletes they supposedly represent. A basketball exhibition to raise money for Lupus was almost canned for similar rea

t-and-f: Jone story

2002-01-30 Thread Kebba Tolbert
Jones turns back clock to find way forward Gene Cherry (Reuters) 30 January 2002 - Raleigh, North Carolina - This is the year Marion full story at: http://www.iaaf.org/news/index.asp?Filename=/news/Articles/getnews.asp?Code=4512 Jones wants to turn back the clock so

t-and-f: USATF Release: 2002 Verizon Millrose Games preview

2002-01-30 Thread Usatfcom99
Contact:Jill M. Geer Director of Communications 317-261-0500 x360 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Wednesday, January 30, 2002 International superstars to compete at Verizon Millrose Games NEW YORK – Coming off the most successful

t-and-f: National Depth--Hammer/Javelin

2002-01-30 Thread Roger Ruth
The charts that follow summarize the number of athletes each country placed in the world top-100 rankings for 2001 (plus ties) and the highest-ranked of these for each event. Since one or two placings may represent only exceptional individuals, rather than national program strength, I've truncated

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Agreed. However, why do the OG have to be the be all and end all of competition. Sure, to us it is, but to the general public, the USATF Championships can hold the same weight... and its better because they are held every year too. We CAN market Adam Goucher and Tim Broe as the next great t

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Runtenkm
Kurt touches on an important point - in other sports marketing a personality works because, for the most part, the personalities end up competing for whatever title is up for grabs. Tiger would not be Tiger with a long series of 10th place finishes. Right now marketing Adam Goucher or Tim Broe

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Thank you Kurt. I agree. How can any of us (including Mr. Masback) make changes in this sport if the few who try and suggest alternatives are continually shot down? Find the flaws and lets try and fix them. That's how ideas become plans that work. I threw out one idea. Lets hear some oth

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Kurt Bray
>Still searching for meaningful comments, Okay, here are my comments - you can decide for yourself how meaningful they are. 1. I like the advertising idea. Getting the general public to know who the track athletes are beyond Carl Lewis (fading from the public mind), Michael Johnson (soon to

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread alan tobin
Hey, I just had an idea. Anyone remember the running scenes from Endurance? They were spectacular. Copy that. Maybe people can watch 15-30 minutes of straight race coverage if packaged right. Track needs a chase camera going all the way around the track. Even better would be to somehow mic the

Fwd: t-and-f: Know what is in your body

2002-01-30 Thread Steve Vaitones
>"Harold Richards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WROTE: > >Every athlete in our sport knows that he/she has the responsibility to >know what is in their body. >Ignorance is no excuse. >Everyone makes a leap of faith every day. > >You trust the water in most areas. >You trust the milk on your cereal. >You

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Runtenkm
Alright Mike, you're enthusiasm is to be commended. I'll give you a $20 million advertising budget. Who benefits from your advertising campaign? It's easy to figure out where the publicity benefit goes to with the major sports. Where does it go in a sport in which most of the better athletes a

t-and-f: Molly Huddle

2002-01-30 Thread Ed Grant
Netters: Too bad Molly doesn;t go to a NJ school. In our state, a school does not have to have a :formal" indoor team for its athletes to participate. Case in point this year: Lindsay Van Alstine of Hawthorne Christian, a one-girl team in CC< ran in our state meet recently (as w

t-and-f: USATF as Enron: Rethinking the hiring of CEO?

2002-01-30 Thread TrackCEO
Y ask: Go easy on Brother Michael. He has some good ideas about juicing up interest in the sport. But the key issue we're dancing around needs to be addressed as well: Has USATF CEO Craig Masback performed as expected? Given the incredible hole he was in from the start, Craigo's done some re

Re: t-and-f: Know what is in your body

2002-01-30 Thread Dan Kaplan
This is a little off topic, but somewhat related to Harold's questions. I am allergic to wheat, among other things. I was buying corn pasta in bulk for a while, but I was always a bit suspicious of the labling: "100% corn pasta..." Every other bulk food was labled with everything in it, no tri

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
And have you seen 3 guys marketed any better? Why can't Broe and Goucher or Alan Webb be marketed similarly? And don't say "because they aren't the best in the world"... because the general public need not know that right now. And hyping them up may instill, God forbid, some confidence in th

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Mike Prizy
No, three words brought back the NBA from near death: Magic, Larry, and Michael. Zippy the Chimp could have written that advertising campaign. Michael Contopoulos wrote: > Glen, > > Nominate me to head USATF and I'll do better than that. I will prove your > assertations false while raising mil

RE: t-and-f: NYT - "U.S. Athletes Must Guess on Supplements"

2002-01-30 Thread Mcewen, Brian T
<< We have Runner's World featuring a story on the cover to run farther with a banned drug. The best known coffee shop sells tea containing a banned substance. >> Pipe down. Every grocery, drug and convenience store in the U.S. sells cold remedies with pseudoephedrine in them. Professional a

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Glen, Nominate me to head USATF and I'll do better than that. I will prove your assertations false while raising millions of dollars and developing a core set of distance and middle distace runners capable of running with and beating anybody on the scene. I'm a man with little tolerance for

t-and-f: Know what is in your body

2002-01-30 Thread Harold Richards
Every athlete in our sport knows that he/she has the responsibility to know what is in their body. Ignorance is no excuse. Everyone makes a leap of faith every day. You trust the water in most areas. You trust the milk on your cereal. You trust the hot dog. Do you trust your multi vitamin? Do

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Harold Richards
Wow! I think that you are on to something. Let's start WWT. We'll capture their interest with the wacked out stuff and then once they catch on we'll have them for the real stuff. I can picture something like the roller derby 400. Helmets, shin guards,elbow pads-all included. The mile team race c

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Runtenkm
Pick a 24 hour period and you'll find a figure skating competition of some sort on the tube. It's certainly 'important' to enough people to support fairly high exposure. HmmmI enjoy autoracing to some extent as does my wife, who is most assuredly not male. My kids like it also, although

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Alan, I can't disagree with you more... on just about everything you said. To begin with, being a northerner, I can tell you that NASCAR is beginning to bridge the gap between the "redneck" south and north. I work at a Hedge Fund, full with people who drive porche's, not a "'75 Corvette propp

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread alan tobin
Advertising would help, but just like gymnastics, figure skating, skiing, etc...we are seen by the public/media eye as an "Olympic Sport" and so are only important every 4 years. There are really only two reasons why people watch cars race around a track 500 times: 1. Redneck Population in the

Re: t-and-f: NYT - "U.S. Athletes Must Guess on Supplements"

2002-01-30 Thread Harold Richards
Chris, The hypocracy goes deeper than just the USOC. We have Runner's World featuring a story on the cover to run farther with a banned drug. The best known coffee shop sells tea containing a banned substance. Watch out for your Mac-N-Cheese, it may be next. Harold >From: "Christopher Goss" <[

t-and-f: Re: Peter Maher

2002-01-30 Thread Martin J. Dixon
Sorry. Make that 25km not 30. Regards, Martin - Original Message - From: "Martin J. Dixon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Track & Field List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 10:33 AM Subject: Peter Maher > A couple of Can listers were wondering what ever happened

t-and-f: Looking a gift horse (was USATF Advertising idea...)

2002-01-30 Thread JimRTimes
I've heard that Omega/Swatch timing offered to PAY $25,000 to USATF to time the indoor nationals at the Armory in March. Apparently someone at USATF felt that figure wasn't high enough, turned them down, and now someone else is doing the timing, and - get this - USATF is PAYING for it. If true

t-and-f: Peter Maher

2002-01-30 Thread Martin J. Dixon
A couple of Can listers were wondering what ever happened to former Can marathon runner and 30km world record holder Maher. He was supposed to be living and coaching some runners in Florida. Does anyone know? Regards, Martin

Re: t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
Also, as I was so politely reminded, this is a co-ed sport, and I would love to see the same idea with America's top women distance runners. Between Suzy, Deena, Hazel Clark, Rudolph, etc, there are plenty of women who can run with the best of the world. Mike >From: "Michael Contopoulos" <[

t-and-f: USATF Advertising idea...

2002-01-30 Thread Michael Contopoulos
OK, why is distance running not popular in the US but fly fishing gets great ESPN time? Why can't the general public watch a 13 minute 5k, but I have co-workers (in NYC, not down south) getting amped to work half a day so they can sit on their couch and watch machines speed around a track 500

t-and-f: NYT - "U.S. Athletes Must Guess on Supplements"

2002-01-30 Thread Christopher Goss
>From today's New York Times... U.S. Athletes Must Guess on Supplements American Olympic officials send their athletes contradictory and, to some critics, hypocritical messages about nutritional supplements. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/01/30/olympics/30OLYM.html?todaysheadlines