Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

Am Mo., 28. Nov. 2022 um 13:13 Uhr schrieb riiga : > With the approval of the crossing:markings=* proposal there is now a > satisfactory way of tagging whether a crossing is marked or not > regardless of the crossing being uncontrolled or having traffic signals. > For signals, there is

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Crossing cleanup and deprecation

Hello! With the approval of the crossing:markings=* proposal there is now a satisfactory way of tagging whether a crossing is marked or not regardless of the crossing being uncontrolled or having traffic signals. For signals, there is crossing:signals=* which fulfills the same role but has

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Mapping standard location of lifeboat mooring or lifeboat station location seems entirely fine. (I am person who added this claim to wiki https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:building%3Dhouseboat=1931553=1797928 ) 27 lis 2022, 02:03 od graemefi...@gmail.com: > In regard to

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

In regard to mapping the location of a lifeboat, just noticed this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?node=6952187784#map=19/53.09914/5.94569 & the wiki for houseboats https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building=houseboat, states " Houseboats that are moving are not mappable in OSM". I

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Further suggestion to combine all water-rescue activities under emergency=water_rescue as an effective top tag: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station#Another_option:_emergency=water_rescue Thanks Graeme On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 12:01, Graeme

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Discussions on the Talk page mentioned groups such as these https://wsart.org.uk/, who assist Emergency Services (Police, Fire & Ambulance) with water search & rescue. Have mentioned them in the proposal as emergency_service=water Thanks Graeme On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 09:35, Graeme Fitzpatrick

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 19:05, Jez Nicholson wrote: > When the lifeboat is permanently moored at a particular location it is > less transitory than a busso people can and do tag them. Not me > necessarily, but other mappers. > True, but can you guarantee that I can walk up to that spot

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 20:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Past discussion on burger vans etc lead to the understanding that if > something was, for the majority of the time, found at a certain location > then OSM should map it. > True, but part of the argument there was that the van

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 19:12, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ... > On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 20:55, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > HMS Belfast in London is mapped as building=ship, for all intents is it > permanent

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Street parking revision

|Hey all, | |voting has started for the street parking revision proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/street_parking_revision| |We apologise for the extensive size of the proposal, which is necessary because the proposal aims to replace an existing schema about a

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/22 20:37, Nathan Case wrote: On 24/11/2022 09:07, Warin wrote: Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ... Something that is part of a museum, and is genuinely permanently secured, seems very different to an emergency response vehicle (which a lifeboat

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/2022 09:07, Warin wrote: Some ships and boats don't move much... as they are part of museums ... Something that is part of a museum, and is genuinely permanently secured, seems very different to an emergency response vehicle (which a lifeboat is for all intents and purposes). I'd

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 24/11/22 11:25, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: Why not both? Because a boat is a mobile feature, that we don't / can't map? e.g https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=349559642#map=19/-27.42815/153.08582 - we don't try to map the

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

When the lifeboat is permanently moored at a particular location it is less transitory than a busso people can and do tag them. Not me necessarily, but other mappers. So, my request that amenity=lifeboat be removed from the proposal's list of incorrect tags as it is *not* a lifeboat station.

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Thu, 24 Nov 2022 at 09:29, Andy Townsend wrote: > > Why not both? > Because a boat is a mobile feature, that we don't / can't map? e.g https://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?way=349559642#map=19/-27.42815/153.08582 - we don't try to map the last bus in the middle row as #632 > Taking an

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On 23/11/2022 22:23, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: But we're supposed to be tagging the base / buildings, not the boat itself. Why not both? Taking an example: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8321217532 * amenity = lifeboat * emergency = marine_rescue * lifeboat = offshore *

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

On Wed, 23 Nov 2022 at 19:12, Jez Nicholson wrote: > > Is amenity=lifeboat actually wrong? > No, not really, but why have amenity=lifeboat & emergency=lifeboat (& sometimes emergency=marine_rescue) both tagged on the same feature? > The ones in the UK at least are actual lifeboats, showing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Vào lúc 10:44 2022-11-23, Zeke Farwell đã viết: A 100+ message thread on the mailing list is no better than on Discourse.  The problem is people spending too much time writing many long messages, and not enough time reading and thinking.  Much as I would love if everyone could learn to write

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 10:57 AM Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > I find Discourse work well for short discussions (up to max. 10-15 > messages), but becomes totally unusable on > bigger threads esp. with subthreads (e.g. highway=scramble discussion with > 100+

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 17:54:42 -0800, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 17:24 2022-11-19, Matija Nalis đã viết: >> Because, someone has to do that summarizing work for extra channels to make >> sense, and it is IMHO only fair that would >> be proposal author (expecting that EVERYBODY will do that SAME

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 10:01:23 +0100 (CET), Cartographer10 via Tagging wrote: >> Question is: did you then collect all the points those extra communities >> made (both those you agreed with, and those >> that you didn't agree with), and summarized them on wiki /talk page, for >> extra period of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 19:10:07 +0100 (CET), Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: >> the first and foremost reason for the tagging mailing list to exist was the >> desire to offload tagging discussions on a central place, off the other >> channels, because people there felt overwhelmed with the

Re: [Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Re: deprecating amenity=lifeboat Is amenity=lifeboat actually wrong? The ones in the UK at least are actual lifeboats, showing where they are moored, probably with a lifeboat station nearby. On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 1:00 AM Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > Following our previous discussions, I've

[Tagging] RFC - Proposed features/emergency=lifeboat station

Following our previous discussions, I've now raised a proposal to proceed with these changes: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/emergency%3Dlifeboat_station Please comment in whichever of the 3 places that you prefer, & I'll attempt to keep on top of all of them! :-) Thanks

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Hello, Le lun. 21 nov. 2022 à 08:15, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> a écrit : > Some offices are involved in the sale and administration of the utility. > It's true, and not in operation. utility=* was designed with technical stuff in mind and it would not cause so much harm to extend it to

Re: [Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

Not sure how change proposed in the second paragraph solves what you mentioned in the first. It also goes against established meaning of loc_name loc_name:en is for English local name of a tree, not for English name of its species (this is rarely used as local names are rarely in multiple

Re: [Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

Vào lúc 08:22 2022-11-21, Carlos Sánchez đã viết: In a lot of cases, users are using local names in the values for species and genus keys. This is an error as genus and species only exist in latin. For local/vulgar name users should use another key or be obtained using the wikidata

Re: [Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

On 21/11/2022 08:15, Warin wrote: On 21/11/22 12:54, Matija Nalis wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 08:58:29 +0800, Timeo Gut wrote: Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks that go through

Re: [Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

Hello, Le 21.11.22 à 17:22, Carlos Sánchez a écrit : I suggest changing species:language to l oc_name:language as for the same species there exists a huge variability of common names, not only differing by language. I disagree loc_name is a

[Tagging] species:language to loc_name:language

In a lot of cases, users are using local names in the values for species and genus keys. This is an error as genus and species only exist in latin. For local/vulgar name users should use another key or be obtained using the wikidata information. I suggest changing species:language to l

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - highway=scramble

There is still considerable heat in the voting. Ballot casting time will be extended to give three weeks of voting. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/highway=scramble Hungerburg ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

The new forum may be also more capable of handling large volume of posts - you can easily mute threads and entire categories. It's also possible to subscribe to only the first post in a category. Thus, you may set to be notified whenever a new proposal is posted and only then choose if

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Nov 20, 2022, at 3:47 PM, François Lacombe wrote: > utility=* key is already widely used and expect one single value, in every > situation. While I regret not doing simple wiki research that would have revealed a collision with my “out loud imagining” clearly-stated to be just that (an

Re: [Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

On 21/11/22 12:54, Matija Nalis wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 08:58:29 +0800, Timeo Gut wrote: Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks that go through plantations or farms but sometimes also at

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On 21/11/22 10:47, François Lacombe wrote: Good evening, Le dim. 20 nov. 2022 à 17:36, stevea a écrit : In fact, I can imagine a variety of tags that describe much (approaching or even achieving?) all of this: office=utility utility=water;sewer;garbage

Re: [Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 08:58:29 +0800, Timeo Gut wrote: > Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases > in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks that > go through plantations or farms but sometimes also at administrative > boundaries along

[Tagging] wheel baths for disinfection

Wheel baths for disinfection are used to prevent the spread of diseases in agricultural areas. They're most often found at roads and tracks that go through plantations or farms but sometimes also at administrative boundaries along major highways. Example 1: Tertiary road

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Good evening, Le dim. 20 nov. 2022 à 17:36, stevea a écrit : > In fact, I can imagine a variety of tags that describe much (approaching > or even achieving?) all of this: > office=utility > utility=water;sewer;garbage > utility=accepts_payment > > utility=cable_tv >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 at 02:36, stevea wrote: > this missive attempts to sketch the outline of a possible tagging scheme > for “utilities” in general. This would be a fairly rich (complex) scheme > if/as it were to encompass all of the sorts of “utility offices” there are > around the world. It

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

20 lis 2022, 17:06 od dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 20 Nov 2022, at 02:27, Matija Nalis >> wrote: >> >> Because, someone has to do that summarizing work for extra channels to make >> sense, and it is IMHO only fair that would >> be proposal author (expecting that

[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Utility facilities

Dear all, The ongoing RFC on utility facilities got further developments recently. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_facilities It sounds interesting to replace several values from industrial=* key: * industrial=gas => utility=gas * industrial=oil => utility=oil As

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Nov 20, 2022, at 1:22 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Technically energy = power x time, so related things but not the same. Thank you; that’s the simple answer to clear up any potentially remaining confusion. Whether it does or not... > Utilities would not only be energy/power

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

sent from a phone > On 20 Nov 2022, at 02:27, Matija Nalis > wrote: > > Because, someone has to do that summarizing work for extra channels to make > sense, and it is IMHO only fair that would > be proposal author (expecting that EVERYBODY will do that SAME task is both > extremely

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Key:fountain:design

Hello, since I made some edits to my original proposal I have waited some extra time before starting a vote to wait for further comment, I received no such comments in the meanwhile and thus I'm now starting a voting for the key fountain:design.

Re: [Tagging] care services

Thanks everybody for the feedback and suggestions. As noted by Minh Nguyen, personal services can include any professional practice, including school assistance, accounting, law or going with grand'ma to the market. In order to go ahead, I am going back to my friends on the local community

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On 20/11/22 10:49, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 18 Nov 2022, at 22:35, Mike Thompson wrote: In a nearby city to where I live, the city owned utility provides electricity, water, sewer, and internet. yes, it is also common in areas I know to have a single provider for

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

> Question is: did you then collect all the points those extra communities made > (both those you agreed with, and those > that you didn't agree with), and summarized them on wiki /talk page, for > extra period of RFC? Because if you didn't > (especially if you didn't include things you

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Vào lúc 22:07 2022-11-19, Graeme Fitzpatrick đã viết: On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 15:38, Minh Nguyen > wrote: There are some ways to draw attention to a wiki talk page comment in general. For example, if I add {{ping|Fizzie41}} to my comment, you'll

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 15:38, Minh Nguyen wrote: > > There are some ways to draw attention to a wiki talk page comment in > general. For example, if I add {{ping|Fizzie41}} to my comment, you'll > get a notification, including by e-mail if you've set that up. If your > comment concerns the

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Vào lúc 18:17 2022-11-19, Graeme Fitzpatrick đã viết: I do have some concerns about the talk pages though. Over time, I've asked quite a few questions on various talk pages, seeking clarification of tag details, or whether this tag would apply in these circumstances etc. I doubt as many as

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 08:52:45 +0200, Dimitar wrote: > > What evidence do you have that is the case?  What is being provided is > > energy, not power. > > From Cambridge dictionary: > energy - the power from something such as electricity or oil that can do > work, such as providing light and

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 19:21:07 -0800, Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 17:39 2022-11-18, Matija Nalis đã viết: >> 1 on twitter and 2 on OSM Diary of proposer. Do you spot the problem here? >> Because I do. > > No one has seriously proposed to make a Twitter announcement part of the > standard

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 12:36, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > > My question is for a unique company providing different services for > > assistance at home, but the goal is not healthcare. Probably > > office=home_aide could be good, I am questionning english native

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 13:12:09 +0100, Georges Dutreix via Tagging wrote: > I don't think that this liste is good. These tags are primary tags. When > a restaurant offers different "cuisines" you won't map different POI's > with restaurant=chinese and restaurant=japanese, ... You will have only

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 at 11:58, Minh Nguyen wrote: > direct interested mappers to the wiki talk page, where hopefully others > can engage as necessary. > I do have some concerns about the talk pages though. Over time, I've asked quite a few questions on various talk pages, seeking clarification

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Vào lúc 17:24 2022-11-19, Matija Nalis đã viết: On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 12:12:22 +0100 (CET), Cartographer10 via Tagging wrote: This proposal makes sure there are 2 required platforms where people have to announce it. That way people have the choice to follow one of the two channels of their

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 12:12:22 +0100 (CET), Cartographer10 via Tagging wrote: > I always had good discussion on several platforms for my proposal. Each > community or person has another view > which I collect this way. Nobody (at least I hope) questions that extra communities (or extra persons

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

sent from a phone > On 18 Nov 2022, at 22:56, Mike Thompson wrote: > >> Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better word >> for it. >> > > What evidence do you have that is the case? What is being provided is > energy, not power. maybe we can agree they

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

sent from a phone > On 18 Nov 2022, at 22:35, Mike Thompson wrote: > > In a nearby city to where I live, the city owned utility provides > electricity, water, sewer, and internet. yes, it is also common in areas I know to have a single provider for water, sewer, waste disposal and even

Re: [Tagging] care services

Once again, we bump up against the reality of a worldwide project, with many different cultures, attempting to squeeze particular meaning into a single tag. Look at Minh's "around here" clarification (true, I'm near him). And once again, we find that English can distinctly lack in its ability

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

It is perfectly OK we use many channels to communicate, as they each have their specific uses. And our new forum [1] is becoming a vital resource of a community project like OSM. Emphasis on community. One person's opinion: in less than a year, our new forum has grown to a place of

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 11:45:58PM +0200, Dimitar wrote: > Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better word > for it. That is just plain wrong. They have different dimensions. ael ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] care services

Vào lúc 04:12 2022-11-19, Georges Dutreix via Tagging đã viết: My question is for a unique company providing different services for assistance at home, but the goal is not healthcare. Probably office=home_aide could be good, I am questionning english native speakers for the right word. In

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

If it is indeed better (which I personally am not convinced), then why not change the proposal to ask that, in addition to the tagging mailing list, proposal might (or should?) be announced at *as many contact channels as possible* of those listed

Re: [Tagging] care services

The problem with using the various craft= tags, is that a lot of these sort of home-assistance organisations, don't provide services to the general public, only to those people who qualify for home-care assistance. I was meaning a company selling services to anybody. It's for people who

Re: [Tagging] care services

I don't think that this liste is good. These tags are primary tags. When a restaurant offers different "cuisines" you won't map different POI's with restaurant=chinese and restaurant=japanese, ... You will have only one amenity=restaurant with a subtag cuisine. My question is for a unique

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

My experience is that proposals are already announced on several channels other then the current required mailing list. I always had good discussion on several platforms for my proposal. Each community or person has another view which I collect this way. This proposal makes sure there are 2

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Thanks for the reminder, I had a busy week so I didn't have time to change it. Here it is  https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Announce_proposals_on_the_new_forum 19 nov. 2022 02:56 van mnalis-openstreetmaplist_at_voyager_hr_prfkut...@simplelogin.co: > This email failed

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

> What evidence do you have that is the case?  What is being provided is energy, not power. From Cambridge dictionary: power - electricity, especially when considering its use or production energy - the power from something such as electricity or oil that can do work, such as providing light

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Vào lúc 17:39 2022-11-18, Matija Nalis đã viết: That way, maximum reach will be accomplished, and all "people could decide for themselves where they wish to communicate". So instead of say 30 messages on tagging mailing list for some proposal, we can have 5 messages on tagging ML, 2 on

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 11:43, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > Do you spot the problem here? > Because I do. > Certainly do! Going back to what I mentioned earlier: On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 at 08:21, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > So far, there have been 23 responses to

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

Have you managed to do it yet? Could you post the URL, if so? On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 07:06:10 +0100 (CET), Cartographer10 via Tagging wrote: > Thanks for the reminder. I indeed forgot to update the title after i changed > the proposal. Will do that soon. > >> But before we get that far, I

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

On Mon, 14 Nov 2022 08:49:46 -0500, Brian M. Sperlongano wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 2:49 AM Marc_marc wrote: >> We can see it with the osm-fr experience: the immature forum has split >> the community, far from federating > > Thank you for clearly describing the root cause of your

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 08:45, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=gardener > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=cleaning The problem with using the various craft= tags, is that a lot of these sort of

[Tagging] Forum Discussion: Changing RFC time for proposals containing deprecation

Hey list, I have started a conversation that may be of interest on the community forum. I am cross posting it here as I know many are still transitioning to the new platform. https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/changing-rfc-time-for-proposals-including-deprecation/5661

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 3:05 PM Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > Also, if being advanced consumer with higher power limits, you ALSO (in > addition to > two things above) have to pay for reactive power too, according to > cos(phi) > (beware of those inductive loads

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 18:39:07 +0100, Georges Dutreix via Tagging wrote: > How would you tag the office of a company providing personnal services > or care services at home, > like gardener, https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:craft=gardener > cleaning,

Re: [Tagging] care services

On 11/18/2022 5:07 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 05:58, Jmapb wrote: I think office=home_aide might be good. ("home_care" sounds like it's the home that's being cared for.) How about =home_assistance? Hey, that's not bad! J

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 08:05, Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > > However, "energy company" is not restricted to electrical energy. > Over here in Croatia, another popular energent is natural gas. > > In fact, many of "electrical energy providers" are also > "natural

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 05:58, Jmapb wrote: > I think office=home_aide might be good. > ("home_care" sounds like it's the home that's being cared for.) How about =home_assistance? Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 14:31:42 -0700, Mike Thompson wrote: > Technically what the electric utility is selling is energy, not power. One > gets billed for kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. Well, it depends on the country. Over here in Croatia, you have to pay for max power too (by choosing which

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 2:46 PM Dimitar wrote: > Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better > word for it. > What evidence do you have that is the case? What is being provided is energy, not power. ...and if we mean electricity, why not use that in the tag? > > >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Energy and power are used quite interchangeably and power is the better word for it. > A more general issue is that often utilities provide more than one service.  Xcel, which operates in parts of the US, provides both electricity and natural gas (the latter which is technically energy too). 

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Technically what the electric utility is selling is energy, not power. One gets billed for kilowatt-hours, not kilowatts. See [0]. However, colloquially, the terms power and energy when it comes to electric utilities are used interchangeably, although "power company" seems to be favored vs.

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Regarding deprecation of old tags, please follow this Discourse thread too: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/changing-rfc-time-for-proposals-including-deprecation/5661 On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 22:04:59 +0200, Dimitar wrote: > Link to the community forum thread: >

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Link to the community forum thread: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/feature-proposal-rfc-power-utility-offices/5659 ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] care services

On 11/17/2022 2:23 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 10:51 2022-11-17, Philip Barnes đã viết: On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 19:21 +0100, Georges Dutreix wrote: Le 17/11/2022 à 18:52, Philip Barnes a écrit : I have used office=home_care for a care company. I found as well amenity=personal_service used

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Power utility office

Hello. I’m [proposing](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_utility_office) to introduce a new tag for power utility offices (office=power_utility) and deprecate the existing one (office=energy_supplier). The rationale behind this idea is that energy_supplier can be

Re: [Tagging] care services

Vào lúc 10:51 2022-11-17, Philip Barnes đã viết: On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 19:21 +0100, Georges Dutreix wrote: Le 17/11/2022 à 18:52, Philip Barnes a écrit : I have used office=home_care for a care company. I found as well amenity=personal_service used 110 times Would be "amenity" better than

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 19:21 +0100, Georges Dutreix wrote: > > Le 17/11/2022 à 18:52, Philip Barnes a écrit : > > I have used office=home_care for a care company. > > I found as well amenity=personal_service used 110 times > Would be "amenity" better than "office" for this case ? Personal

Re: [Tagging] care services

On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 18:39 +0100, Georges Dutreix via Tagging wrote: > Hello, > How would you tag the office of a company providing personnal > services > or care services at home, like gardener, cleaning, assistance for > children, elders or disabled, small repairs, etcetera ? > > The tag

[Tagging] care services

Hello, How would you tag the office of a company providing personnal services or care services at home, like gardener, cleaning, assistance for children, elders or disabled, small repairs, etcetera ? The tag office=employment_agency is sometimes used, but looks for me not really adequate.

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

How far should use of this tag extend? Should https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/63985402 be a lifeboat_station? No, it certainly doesn't have a lifeboat of it's own, but it is responsible for coordinating & controlling Rescue activities for the English Channel & a lot of SE England. Currently

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

As emergency=lifeboat_station seems like it may be the most popular option, I have now added details to the previously virtually blank page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dlifeboat_station All opinions / comments welcome! So, if we proceed with this option, the opposing

Re: [Tagging] Relations of type=site + tourism=camp_site

Like Adam, my experience is with backcountry camping sites located within wilderness areas. These sites usually consist of a cluster of camp pitches and related facilities like fire rings, pit toilets, etc. They do not generally have well-defined geographic boundaries, so it would be

Re: [Tagging] Re-opening of historic=* key vote without community notification

Le 15.11.22 à 14:36, Brian M. Sperlongano a écrit : Sarah Hoffman has previously pointed out some structural issues with the use of historic as a top-level key sometimes and an ancillary key other times: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2022-November/066294.html

Re: [Tagging] Re-opening of historic=* key vote without community notification

On Tue, Nov 15, 2022 at 6:22 AM Włodzimierz Bartczak < wlodzimierz.bartc...@openstreetmap.pl> wrote: > That's right it's an oversight. I was a bit hasty. First of all, I wanted > to start a discussion. It would be worthwhile to sort out the use of this > key. Everyone is complaining about this

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On 15/11/22 12:16, Matija Nalis wrote: On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:00:42 +0100, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet proposal?https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet You mean the one that was cancelled because

Re: [Tagging] RFC - A broad look at fountains

On Sat, 12 Nov 2022 17:00:42 +0100, Davidoskky via Tagging wrote: > Is this proposal functionally any different from the water outlet > proposal? https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_outlet You mean the one that was cancelled because it was a duplicate of already

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Historic

Also, I'm not sure if it was mentioned by proponents here, but Voting on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Historic has been re-started. (also note that initial votes have been nullified by proponents; so if you voted before, you might have to do it again). On a personal

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