Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Chris Hill wrote: > I simply don't see namespaces as necessary. In this case I'd draw the > building and label it as a supermarket, then add a node for the post office. This seems a very messy solution to me. > The building is a supermarket, the post office is only part of

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Frederik Ramm wrote: > > A completely different (and quite OSM-like!) option is dropping all this > > complex logic, left-right-blah tagging, number schemes, relations and > > all, and just put simple nodes: "This is

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

Hi, Currently i'm working with the bbox of Belgium, but this bbox includes parts of the Netherlands, France,.. And this gives me some problems... it appears that some places in Belgium also exists in the Netherlands or France. Apparently it is only possible to use bbox-es to limit the size. Ar

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

Download from here, it uses a polygon instead of a bbox. http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Johan Huysmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > Currently i'm working with the bbox of Belgium, but this bbox includes > parts of the Netherlands, France,.. > >

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:36 PM, Martijn van Exel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pitfalls include: > > > > * what if way direction is reversed? > > * what if way is extended, merged, split? > > That will be a problem indeed. Could theoretically be solved with > strong editor support, but that

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

And a combination of both? Does that exists. Now my php script just eats all memory when parsing the osm file :( Johan Skywave wrote: > Download from here, it uses a polygon instead of a bbox. > http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/ > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Johan Huysmans > <[EMA

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008/4/18 Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > I simply don't see namespaces as necessary. In this case I'd draw the > > building and label it as a supermarket, then add a node for the post > office. > > This seems a very messy solution to me. > > > > The building is a supermarket, the post off

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Nick wrote: > It's very difficult to know what to do with climbing routes without > truly 3-dimensional mapping - that said your suggestion sounds feasible. Having thought more about this, my proposal has a problem: There is no way to show the difference between a path leadi

Re: [OSM-talk] osm2pgsql - invalid input syntax for integer : "Breërivier"

Yes, downloading the last version fron SVN the error was resolved. Thanks. Rpr 2008/4/16, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 7:05 PM, Ricardo Peironcely > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I've a problem with osm2pgsql and the last version of planet file. >

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

Hi, >>> * what if way direction is reversed? >>> * what if way is extended, merged, split? >> >> That will be a problem indeed. Could theoretically be solved with >> strong editor support, but that does not fix the intrinsic flaw. You >> never know when a script comes around that reverses direc

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Robin Paulson wrote: > structure=pole > highway=bus_stop > amenity=post_box Ok, but you still have a potential conflict here. Hypothetically, you could have a "timetable" tag which applies to both a bus stop (tells you when busses arrive) and a post box (when is the post c

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

i would be cool if the osmxapi could accept a href to a polygon xml file reference instead of a bbox. We can put a list of country/province/city/... polygons somewhere on a site 2008/4/18, Johan Huysmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And a combination of both? Does that exists. > > Now my php script jus

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2008, Andy Allan wrote: > > > > And full of frigging namespaces. > > > > Yes - I consider this a Good Thing. Then we'll need to do our best to persuade each other :-) ! > > > british_trad = VS > > british_tech

[OSM-talk] Firefox quirks

Could someone please have a look at the Firefox browser with slippy map? I have FF2.0.0.14 and it has two annoying things happening. 1 the red marquee when you shift-drag to resize has gone. Not important but is nice to have confirmation of re-zoom you have just set, and a graphic as you drag aroun

Re: [OSM-talk] Firefox quirks

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Steve Chilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Could someone please have a look at the Firefox browser with slippy map? > I have FF2.0.0.14 and it has two annoying things happening. > 1 the red marquee when you shift-drag to resize has gone. Not important > but i

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ah, I see the problem. You are taking a tag away from it's context, > and then complaining that the tag has no context on its own. Only part > of your argument is based around conflicts, but the rest seems to be > conte

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Fri, 18 Apr 2008, Andy Allan wrote: > Ah, I see the problem. You are taking a tag away from it's context, > and then complaining that the tag has no context on its own. Only part > of your argument is based around conflicts, but the rest seems to be > context. Yes, it's a bit of both - I think

Re: [OSM-talk] Firefox quirks

Excellent. All sorted. Thnx Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager School of Health and Social Sciences Middlesex University phone/fax: 020 8411 5355 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mdx.ac.uk/schools/hssc/staff/profiles/technical/chiltons.asp Chair

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

That's exactly what i mean/want :D That way you can call the osmxapi url with [polygon=belgium] or [polygon:country=belgium] What do the osmxapi developers think about it? Greetings Johan Rob wrote: > i would be cool if the osmxapi could accept a href to a polygon xml > file reference instead

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:58 AM, Martijn van Oosterhout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Jonathan Bennett > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Frederik Ramm wrote: > > > A completely different (and quite OSM-like!) option is dropping all this > > > complex logic, left

[OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was 16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen this or know what's going on? cheers, Chris ___

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Johan Huysmans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's exactly what i mean/want :D > > That way you can call the osmxapi url with [polygon=belgium] or > [polygon:country=belgium] > > What do the osmxapi developers think about it? > It's a nice idea. I just need to im

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

Hi, >> That way you can call the osmxapi url with [polygon=belgium] or >> [polygon:country=belgium] >> >> What do the osmxapi developers think about it? >> > > It's a nice idea. I just need to implement the algorithm described earlier > in this thread :) Not only do you need to implement the al

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (An obvious optimization is to compute the largest rectangle contained > in, and the largest rectangle containing, the polygon. First check if > point is outside the outer bbox - if yes, you're done. Then check if > po

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

Chris Hill wrote: > Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has briefly > gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was 16ft. > Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen this or know what's going on? I've noticed I've been getting WAAS signals a lo

[OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

It would be good to get a resolution of the issue of highway classification and rendering in the USA. The San Francisco area is getting into a pretty good state now, and could act as an 'exemplar' area for the USA should

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The state roads are currently tagged on OSM variously with trunk (green) > primary (red) and secondary (orange). Some pretty major roads a tagged with > secondary (actually a very lowly road class in the UK below moto

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender > sorted out for the USA "sorted out" - they both work fine. Even if we had a production-ready mechanism for country-specific rendering, it would still be a matter of opinion, or more accurately, a matter of cartographic s

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USAandelsewhere

On a "ground truth" note, it turns out that state "highways" in California do range from freeways (CA 85), to major urban surface roads (CA 82) to narrow two-lane rural roads (CA 130). While "lowly", some of them really are secondary roads. Dan On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 17:33 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

Chris Hill wrote: >Sent: 18 April 2008 4:24 PM >To: Talk OSM >Subject: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy > >Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has >briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was >16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen this

Re: [OSM-talk] osmxapi/bbox question

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 4:56 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > That way you can call the osmxapi url with [polygon=belgium] or > > > [polygon:country=belgium] > > > > > > What do the osmxapi developers think about it? > > > > > > > > It's a nice idea. I just need to implemen

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Andy Allan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ah, I see the problem. You are taking a tag away from it's context, > > and then complaining that the tag has no context on its own. Only

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:05 PM, Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Actually, I would prefer to see everything namespaced, such as > amenity:pub:name or pub:name. Hmm. In that case, I'm not sure we'll see eye to eye on this at any point! Cheers, Andy __

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008, Tom Hughes wrote: > > If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and > > osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised > > to tag appropriately. The moto 'render and they will come' probably > > applies here as elsewhere. > > Agreeing on

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different > countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know of an efficient > way to do it, so we don't even know what the technology would look like >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Hi, > Shouldn't this be as easy as adding a tag indicating country and > altering the stylesheet to say highway=motorway country=us => > color=yellow, highway=motorway country=uk => color=blue? Complete with the ability to have US motorways in the UK, yay! Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eM

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Hi, > Who decides what colours are used on the main maps? I.e. who actually > decided that motorways should be blue, and trunks should be green, how > railways are rendered etc.? > > Say I'd like to see railways rendered differently in the [EMAIL PROTECTED] > maps, where > should I ask? Is th

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:02 PM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > > > Shouldn't this be as easy as adding a tag indicating country and > > altering the stylesheet to say highway=motorway country=us => > > color=yellow, highway=motorway country=uk => color=blue? > > Complete wi

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different > > countries in different ways. I don't believe we even know o

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ben Laenen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Friday 18 April 2008, Tom Hughes wrote: > > > If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and > > > osmarender sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised > > > to tag appropriately. The

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

I hope I didn't come across as aggressive, but I did want to point out some really weird inconsistencies that do need to be resolved and wanted to encourage debate. In the UK a secondary roads is a minor road, in San Francisco this

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008 19:14:22 Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different > >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 19:14 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to render different

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008 19:25:37 Peter Miller wrote: > I hope I didn't come across as aggressive, but I did want to point out some > really weird inconsistencies that do need to be resolved and wanted to > encourage debate. In the UK a secondary roads is a minor road, in San > Francisco this >

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Provided we have the polygons describing the boundaries of countries, > states etc then we could tag the data during the osm2pgsql processing. > Alternatively it might be possible for Mapnik to query them at run time

[OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

> Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:44:49 -0400 > From: "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and > elsewhere > To: "Tom Hughes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: talk@openstreetmap.org > Message-ID: > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type

[OSM-talk] BBC: Villages 'discovered' in DR Congo

It seems the DR Congo has been mapping their villages using GPS devices since traditional mapping methods are made difficult by the thick forest. See the BBC article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7355335.stm. Compare their map http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/pop_ups/08/africa_e

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Friday 18 April 2008 21:23:47 Peter Miller wrote: > The answer is that OSM's currently > colour scheme seems to be that it is UK imperialism! > > For interest, here are some colours using by Google maps around the world > I would suggest we have a default of orange for top-level roads everywher

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was thinking about that while I was walking home earlier. The > main question I guess is how efficient PostGIS is at answering > the question "which of these N hundred polygons is this data > in", or how efficiently we c

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 20:02 +0100, Tom Hughes wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Jon Burgess <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Provided we have the polygons describing the boundaries of countries, > > states etc then we could tag the data during the osm2pgsql processing. > > Alter

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Hi, > I really don't mind what the rendered colours are, that is for local > discussion and there may even be multiple versions with different styles > as far as I am concerned Agree. > but currently the rendering is uk-centric Which comes as no surprise given that the project was started in t

[OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

Hello, I have a question regarding the amount of nodes that one may use to draw a road, and whether the amount of nodes used has a considerable effect on the speed of the OpenStreetMap. I did my first edits to OSM a few days ago. I'll get a GPS device soon, but so far my only edits have been addi

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, 2008-04-18 at 21:57 +0100, Jon Burgess wrote: > It should then be possible to include fips_cntry as a filter in the > osm.xml. >From a purely functional perspective this approach seems to work. The screenshot below shows what happens if you ask for the motorways in Ireland to be rendered

[OSM-talk] BBC: Villages 'discovered' in DR Congo

> Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 21:13:12 +0100 > From: Matt Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [OSM-talk] BBC: Villages 'discovered' in DR Congo > To: talk > Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > It seems the DR Congo has been mapping their

Re: [OSM-talk] BBC: Villages 'discovered' in DR Congo

Mapping Africa has is likely to be the most challenging - and at the same time the most valuable - project that OSM contributes to. Tony Bowden (User:Tmtm) and I are trying to get a pilot project going in Uganda to help the Guardian's Katine project ( http://www.guardian.co.uk/katine) which is loc

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

Hi, > I took some screenshots of the changes in question, so that people would > get a better picture of what I'm talking about. I took screenshots of > four different places that I edited, I think your edits are perfectly ok. Be reminded, though, that we have automatic bezier curve hinting in pl

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

Ari, The short answer is that you can add as many nodes as you like if you think it better describes what is physically on the ground. I'm always adding nodes to stuff to make it look right, but I also remove nodes as I go where I know or find a feature is truly straight. Cheers Andy >-Orig

Re: [OSM-talk] GPS accuracy

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:05 AM, Jon Stockill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Chris Hill wrote: > > Over last week I've noticed that the accuracy reading on my ETrex has > briefly gone down to 10ft a few times. Before last Saturday the best was > 16ft. Today I saw 9ft briefly. Anyone else seen thi

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tom Hughes wrote: | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: |> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender |> sorted out for the USA then people will be incentivised to tag |> appr

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

la, 2008-04-19 kello 00:32 +0200, Frederik Ramm kirjoitti: > I think your edits are perfectly ok. Be reminded, though, that we have > automatic bezier curve hinting in place at least for the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > map, so it is very likely that the road was already a smooth curve on > the map even

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging climbing routes and scrambles

2008/4/18 Steve Hill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > structure=pole > > highway=bus_stop > > amenity=post_box > > > > Ok, but you still have a potential conflict here. Hypothetically, you > could have a "timetable" tag which applies to both a bus stop (tells you > when busses arrive) and a post box (whe

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "Adam Schreiber" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The problem is that we do not have the technology to

Re: [OSM-talk] house numbers revisited

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 3:14 AM, Frederik Ramm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > >>> * what if way direction is reversed? > >>> * what if way is extended, merged, split? > >> > >> That will be a problem indeed. Could theoretically be solved with > >> strong editor support, but that does not f

Re: [OSM-talk] tagging and rendering highways in the USA and elsewhere

Robert (Jamie) Munro schreef: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tom Hughes wrote: > | In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Peter Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > |> If we can agree on the rendering rules and get both Mapnik and osmarender > |> sorted out for the USA t

Re: [OSM-talk] Too many nodes?

Ari Torhamo schreef: > Hello, > > I have a question regarding the amount of nodes that one may use to draw > a road, and whether the amount of nodes used has a considerable effect > on the speed of the OpenStreetMap. > > I did my first edits to OSM a few days ago. I'll get a GPS device soon, > but