Re: [Talk-it] Kathmandu, OSM e il Politecnico di Milano

2015-05-02 Thread Aury88
Alessandro wrote Il 30/04/2015 20:03, Aury88 ha scritto: ...la domanda dei miei amici era generica e cioè perchè le organizzazioni umanitarie dovrebbero preferire la nostra alle mappe google visto che la nostra non fa vedere neanche la foto satellitare...in poche parole mi si chiedeva i

Re: [Talk-at] OpenStreetMap Infostand auf den Linuxwochen Wien von 7. bis 9. Mai 2015 (fwd)

2015-05-02 Thread Markus Mayr
Auch wenn ich diesmal nicht mit dabei sein kann, möchte ich Stephans Aufruf unterstreichen! Traut euch, es ist viel informeller als man denkt, mehr wie ein Hacker-Event, bei dem hin und wieder ein Besucher nachfrägt, ob OpenStreetMap etwa mit Landkarten zu tun hat, weil ein Map im Namen vorkommt.

Re: [Talk-si] nov maper razsaja po Sloveniji

2015-05-02 Thread Igor Brejc
Mislim, da se je boljše vzdrževati komentarjev tipa correcting changes made by an idiot ipd. (razen če res gre za namerne, katastrofalne spremembe). Fant je začel mapirati pred komaj štirimi dnevi, pač začetniške napake. Po moje je problem predvsem v sistemu, ki omogoča kakršnokoli spreminjanje ne

Re: [Talk-it] Kathmandu, OSM e il Politecnico di Milano

2015-05-02 Thread Alessandro
Il 02/05/2015 08:50, Aury88 ha scritto: ok, la flessibilità del nostro tagging è un vantaggio...purtroppo non l'ho visto molto sfruttare soprattutto in risposta della crisi dove spesso è richiesta una generica mappatura (livello della strada, mai dati tipo la superficie delle strade figurarsi

Re: [Talk-it] Kathmandu, OSM e il Politecnico di Milano

2015-05-02 Thread Aury88
girarsi_liste wrote Provo a dire la mia, perchè la nostra mappa, ma soprattutto i task aperti su hotosm, sono ambivalenti, hanno la precedenza sugli altri caricamenti normali, non permettono solo la mappatura rilevata da foto satellitari, ma permettono anche da chi è sul campo di poter

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread SomeoneElse
On 02/05/2015 02:18, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: The same is true with an amenity=restaurant called Subway, since it should be amenity=fast_food and any Subway that is not the well known chain would almost certainly be sued by the well known chain and forced to changed its name. I wouldn't

[Talk-it] Tag negozio car wrapping

2015-05-02 Thread John Doe
Buongiorno a tutti, come posso taggare un negozio che si occupa di car wrapping? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it

Re: [Talk-si] nov maper razsaja po Sloveniji

2015-05-02 Thread Stefan Baebler
Absolutno, sem mu povsod prijazno napisal razlog revertanja in predlog za izboljšavo (uporaba relacij). Lp, Štefan Najboljse da se mu se napise kaj dela narobe. Ceprav se to malokdaj uposteva. Sam sem poiskusal nekega mariborskega mapperja prepricat da naj uporablja ustaljeno shemo za wifi in

[OSM-talk] Smrender — State of Development Report

2015-05-02 Thread Bernhard R. Fischer
»Designed to produce nautical paper charts.« https://www.cypherpunk.at/2015/04/smrender-state-of-development-report/ Best regards, Bernhard signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-it] Kathmandu, OSM e il Politecnico di Milano

2015-05-02 Thread Dario Zontini
Qualcuno conosce enti (Croce Rossa, ONG o altro) che intervengono in caso di emergenza che usi le mappe OSM? Sarebbe una bella occasione per contattarli e presentare i vantaggi di OSM Dario -- Messaggio originale -- Da: Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread dHuy Pierre
On ne tag pas les bandes, on unifie les émetteurs par opérateur et les opérateurs et les formes par station. Le Samedi 2 mai 2015 14h30, Eric Debeau eric.deb...@gmail.com a écrit : Oups, le mulot avait dérapé... Salut Je suis un peu perdu. J'ai mis des commentaires dans le pad.

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread François Lacombe
Le 2 mai 2015 00:09, dHuy Pierre dh...@yahoo.fr a écrit : @Jérome: Merci de l'avoir expliqué. Je suis opposé au tag communication:*= cependant, en effet je trouve que ces tags surchargeraient trop en cas de données multiples et ne serons jamais assez exhaustif, on risquerait de se retrouver

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread dHuy Pierre
Avant la proposition j'attends au moins une unité dans le camp talk-fr :pOpencellid se base sur des séries de mesures cumulés pour estimé la position de l'antenne en fonction de la réception. Ces estimations donnent une précision de 100m (donc contestable mais intéressant).Bon je crois crois

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread Eric Debeau
Oups, le mulot avait dérapé... Salut Je suis un peu perdu. J'ai mis des commentaires dans le pad. Concrètement, j'ai compris que l'on veut intégrer dans OSM des infos sur les supports et les antennes. J'ai compris que la proposition de Phlippe Verdy vise à intégrer dans le même tag différentes

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
I wouldn't be so sure here. As an example, there's a bakery chain in the UK called Greggs. They're mostly tagged shop=bakery (with a few Subway-esque amenity=fast_food / cuisine=sandwich as well). Occasionally shops like this get wrongly tagged, sometimes as amenity=cafe, and there's always

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread Eric Debeau
Salut J'a Eric 2015-05-02 5:04 GMT+02:00 Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr: Le 2 mai 2015 00:21, dHuy Pierre dh...@yahoo.fr a écrit : L'idée de Verdy est pas al en la matière mais non normalisé encore, OSM non plus n'est pas normalisé dans ses données: il crée lui même ses propres

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread dHuy Pierre
@Nicolas: mea culpa, je vis en milieu urbain dense dans ce cas! Je ne parlais que d'un doublement de vérification des données en cas de cartographie visuelle pour les pays sans opendata sur cette base.@Debeau: je viens de voir ton message dans le pad, mais du coup je ne suis pas sûr que ça soit

Re: [Talk-at] basemap.at Umstellung

2015-05-02 Thread Peter Kössler
Wie kann ich das bei JOSM umstellen? In TMS hat das umstellen mit Neueingabe und Änderung auf .png nicht funktioniert. Danke, Peter. ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread Nicolas CORBEL
OCID n'est pas précis à 100m, je t'assure. Ou alors ponctuellement sur des endroits où énormément de mesures ont été faites, dans des zones très denses. Et surtout, OCID est plus qu'incomplet. Je ne pense pas qu'il faille continuer dans cette voie. Je crois que le propos de François c'est qu'il

Re: [Talk-it] Kathmandu, OSM e il Politecnico di Milano

2015-05-02 Thread Lorenzo
Il giorno 02/mag/2015, alle ore 08:50, Aury88 spacedrive...@gmail.com ha scritto: Alessandro wrote Il 30/04/2015 20:03, Aury88 ha scritto: ...la domanda dei miei amici era generica e cioè perchè le organizzazioni umanitarie dovrebbero preferire la nostra alle mappe google visto che la

[Talk-br] Áreas de risco

2015-05-02 Thread belnuovo
Sem querer polemizar , mas aproveitando algumas respostas . Primeiro eu deixo perguntas : quem participa do OSM e mapeia o seu bairro e/ou partes da sua cidade , o faz para si ou para os outros ? Se a volatilidade na informação , quando a CET-SP faz alterações nas velocidades de via ( me

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Colin Smale
A bit of a meta-discussion I wonder why this topic is not going the same way as the debate on talk-gb last November-December in which it was proposed to tidy up and normalise various spelling variants? There was a lot of vehement opposition to any automated corrections as many chains are

Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] May Meeting (Disabilty Kurb Project)

2015-05-02 Thread Rob Nickerson
Sounds like an interesting project. Hopefully we'll see you in Bromsgrove on Thursday to discuss this in more detail. Speaking of which does anyone know what the plan is for Bromsgrove. Is there any priority areas that we should focus on or shall I just pick something and meet you in the pub

Re: [Talk-br] Áreas de perigo

2015-05-02 Thread Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro
Quando a nomear, acho válido. Se o nome é específico daquele lugar (não algo para referenciar o tipo de lugar), pode ser um loc_name, um alt_name ou mesmo um name. Quanto a mapear áreas de risco, continuo achando temerário. Acho válido que haja aplicativos e sites específicos para esse fim que se

Re: [Talk-br] Evento de mapeamento na USP São Carlos

2015-05-02 Thread Joao Porto
Olá Julio, Infelizmente não gravamos o webinar dessa vez. A propósito, o nossos eventos de mapeamento colaborativo foram divulgados na mídia, e assim também o OSM: http://g1.globo.com/sp/sao-carlos-regiao/noticia/2015/05/alunos-da-usp-sao-carlos-ajudam-mapear-areas-destruidas-no-nepal.html

[Talk-GB] Road-name oddity in Bath

2015-05-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
Around: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.38137mlon=-2.37016#map=19/51.38137/-2.37016 Stanier Road seems to become Ivo Peters Road, then Stanier Road again Meanwhile, slightly to the NE, there is another Ivo Peters Road. Is something mis-tagged? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 May 2015 at 02:18, Andrew MacKinnon andrew...@gmail.com wrote: If a store changes name a mechanical edit does not make sense because usually new signs get put up gradually. For instance Domino's Pizza changed its name to Domino's and is running TV ads promoting this, but there are still

Re: [Talk-at] basemap.at Umstellung

2015-05-02 Thread Paul Wölfel
Hallo, leider ist nur dir normale Auflösung in PNG verfügbar. JOSM verwendet die high dpi Version, welche nur in JPEG verfügbar ist. Wenn diese auch in PNG verfügbar ist, werd ich die TMS links aktualisieren, so dass automatisch für jeden User die PNG Variante verwendet wird Mit

Re: [Talk-br] Áreas de risco

2015-05-02 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
1) Para mim e pensando nos outros também (compartilhar). 2) Corrigir e atualizar. Se possível, deixando uma maneira de rastrear as dificuldades. Em 2 de maio de 2015 15:59, belnu...@pop.com.br escreveu: eu deixo perguntas : *[1]* quem participa do OSM e mapeia o seu bairro e/ou partes da sua

Re: [Talk-de] unpraktisches Nominatim-Ergebnis

2015-05-02 Thread Johannes
Verständlich, hier Auszug aus dem FAQ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/FAQ#Why_is_the_place_I.27m_looking_for_not_at_the_top_of_the_list.3F Why is the place I'm looking for not at the top of the list? Nominatim uses various heuristics to calculate the order to show search results,

Re: [Talk-it] Tagging di chiese

2015-05-02 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am 30.04.2015 um 22:33 schrieb Leonardo Frassetto kinetocor...@gmail.com: L'edificio in se building=church o building:part=yes con relazione multipoligono. se usi building:part ci sarà comunque anche un building=* (church, chapel, cathedral, etc) Amenity=place_of_worship sul

[OSM-talk] Case study: Lloyds TSB (Was: Chain Store Cleanup)

2015-05-02 Thread Rob Nickerson
Andy Mabbett wrote: I suppose it depends whether we want to map what (sometimes incorrect) store signs say, or what the stores actually are. I favour the latter, but if you want the former, I have a list defunct shops whose signs are still visible, which you can add Another issue to consider is

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread dHuy Pierre
Pour ta norme pour cartographier les données associées aux antennes si tu veux. Le Samedi 2 mai 2015 23h08, Philippe Verdy verd...@wanadoo.fr a écrit : Ou ai-je parlé d'association, je n'ai même pas vu ce terme utilisé dans cette discussion... Le 2 mai 2015 18:00, dHuy Pierre

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
On Sat, May 2, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: A bit of a meta-discussion I wonder why this topic is not going the same way as the debate on talk-gb last November-December in which it was proposed to tidy up and normalise various spelling variants? There was a lot

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/02/2015 10:40 PM, Andrew MacKinnon wrote: This is due to weirdness in trademark laws where sometimes companies in different categories are allowed to use the same trademark - e.g. Apple Inc. and Apple Records. Also, by far not every chain will have a global trademark (or the clout

[Talk-de] unpraktisches Nominatim-Ergebnis

2015-05-02 Thread Christian H. Bruhn
Hallo! Ich habe gestern auf openstreetmap.org nach Wildpark Eekholt gesucht. Da gab es mehrere Suchergebnisse. Das erste war http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2414231380 , welches ein Straßenschild ist. So eine braune Tafel, welche an Autobahnen auf touristische Ziele hinweist. Gerade in

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread Philippe Verdy
Ou ai-je parlé d'association, je n'ai même pas vu ce terme utilisé dans cette discussion... Le 2 mai 2015 18:00, dHuy Pierre dh...@yahoo.fr a écrit : @Nicolas: mea culpa, je vis en milieu urbain dense dans ce cas! Je ne parlais que d'un doublement de vérification des données en cas de

[Talk-it] Open Location Code: Addresses for everything, everywhere

2015-05-02 Thread cesare gerbino
Ciao a tutti, mi ci sono imbattuto questa sera: per ora ho solo letto e non ho provato ma mi sembra interessante e quindi lo segnalo . sembra essere open http://google-opensource.blogspot.be/2015/04/open-location-code-addresses-for.html Cesare Gerbino

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 05/02/2015 07:58 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I suppose it depends whether we want to map what (sometimes incorrect) store signs say, or what the stores actually are. Definitely we want to map what's on the ground. We map mis-spellings in road signs, too. I favour the latter, but if you

Re: [Talk-de] unpraktisches Nominatim-Ergebnis

2015-05-02 Thread Johannes
Gute Chance auf besser findbare Zoos. Zumindest dieser Konstellation: https://github.com/twain47/Nominatim/issues/273 Grüße Johannes Am 02.05.2015 um 21:57 schrieb Johannes: Verständlich, hier Auszug aus dem FAQ

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Normalisation du tag antenne

2015-05-02 Thread Philippe Verdy
Le 2 mai 2015 23:14, dHuy Pierre dh...@yahoo.fr a écrit : Pour ta norme pour cartographier les données associées aux antennes si tu veux. Je n'ai pas parlé de ma norme... ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] Data Quality - was Re: Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Colin Smale
On 2015-05-02 23:28, Frederik Ramm wrote: We collect observations. ... There is no way for the mapper on the ground to know that the name on the building should be something else. I think that sounds rather disingenuous. We humans are perfectly capable of correctly interpreting data

Re: [OSM-talk] Case study: Lloyds TSB (Was: Chain Store Cleanup)

2015-05-02 Thread pmailkeey .
On 2 May 2015 at 22:10, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: Andy Mabbett wrote: I suppose it depends whether we want to map what (sometimes incorrect) store signs say, or what the stores actually are. I favour the latter, but if you want the former, I have a list defunct shops

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 May 2015 at 22:28, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I know you have a Wikidata background and things may be different in Wikidata I've been editing OSM longer than Wikidata has existed. Even had I not, I don't think your attempt to analyse my background has any place on this

Re: [OSM-talk] Data Quality - was Re: Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread pmailkeey .
On 2 May 2015 at 23:05, Colin Smale colin.sm...@xs4all.nl wrote: On 2015-05-02 23:28, Frederik Ramm wrote: We collect observations. ... There is no way for the mapper on the ground to know that the name on the building should be something else. I think that sounds rather

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread pmailkeey .
On 2 May 2015 at 23:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 2 May 2015 at 22:28, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: I know you have a Wikidata background and things may be different in Wikidata I've been editing OSM longer than Wikidata has existed. Even had I not, I

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread waldo000...@gmail.com
I have an ideological objection to introducing key values that represent composite keys (e.g. serviced === standard + shower + power). Over time, the definition of such values becomes more and more convoluted (e.g. how do I tag a campsite that is standard + shower? Introduce another bloody

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Jo
While you're at it, please consider adding brand:wikidata=Q38076 for McDonald's you verify. Polyglot 2015-05-03 0:28 GMT+02:00 pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com: On 2 May 2015 at 23:18, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote: On 2 May 2015 at 22:28, Frederik Ramm

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread Ian Sergeant
On 3 May 2015 at 10:22, David Bannon dban...@internode.on.net wrote: No possible, in any readable way, to render something like this. Either all the icons appear on top of each other or, most are discarded. And imagine just how many columns need be added to the render database. The proposed

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread Warin
On 3/05/2015 2:50 PM, Ian Sergeant wrote: I can't see any reason why this responsibility should be given to the mapper. The corresponding categories may be better held in a software ruleset, and the mapper just enumerate the amenities on the campsite that they are aware of. Mappers take

Re: [Talk-br] Áreas de perigo

2015-05-02 Thread Alexandre Magno Brito de Medeiros
Existem pessoas mais assombradas e existem pessoas menos assombradas. Em 2 de maio de 2015 16:23, Márcio Vinícius Pinheiro marcioviniciu...@gmail.com escreveu: Quanto a mapear áreas de risco, continuo achando temerário. Acho válido que haja aplicativos e sites específicos para esse fim que

Re: [OSM-talk] Chain Store Cleanup

2015-05-02 Thread Andrew MacKinnon
I found a few McDonald's that are not what you think they are. In OSM there is a McDonald's confectionery shop in Mexico, a McDonald's supermarket in Missouri, and a McDonald's kitchen store in New Hampshire that are not fast food restaurants. Looks like you need to be careful when fixing these.

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread Warin
On 3/05/2015 10:22 AM, David Bannon wrote: On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 08:41 +1000, waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ideological objection to introducing key values that represent composite keys (e.g. serviced === standard + shower + Yes Waldo, I do understand this point. But conversely, its

Re: [talk-au] camp sites

2015-05-02 Thread David Bannon
On Sun, 2015-05-03 at 08:41 +1000, waldo000...@gmail.com wrote: I have an ideological objection to introducing key values that represent composite keys (e.g. serviced === standard + shower + Yes Waldo, I do understand this point. But conversely, its useful to look closely at the problem from a

Re: [Talk-br] Evento de mapeamento na USP São Carlos

2015-05-02 Thread Wille
Ótimo, João!! É muito bom ver o OpenStreetMap na mídia. Adicionei no wiki: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_in_the_media#2015 abraços, wille On 02-05-2015 14:37, Joao Porto wrote: Olá Julio, Infelizmente não gravamos o webinar dessa vez. A propósito, o nossos eventos de