On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, 20:13 Michal Migurski, wrote:
> I’ll start by suggesting that one of your assumptions is not accurate.
> Weak license enforcement is bad for large organizations like my employer,
> Facebook. We prefer clear rules and the legal team here is pleased to see
> that the LWG is movi
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> On 6. Dec 2019, at 15:16, pangoSE wrote:
>
> I believe that we should deprecate all wikipedia links as they are just
> potentially obsolete cruft that can be inferred from the wikidata item. (I am
> also an editor of Wikidata)
>
> If you really want the Wikipedia link di
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> On 6. Dec 2019, at 10:36, Oleksiy Muzalyev
> wrote:
>
> For many geographical names there are articles in the Latin version of
> Wikipedia. For example, for the Black Sea:
> https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontus_Euxinus
it is a very short article, compared to currently
On 2019-12-06 16:58, Andy Townsend wrote:
On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277
W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze:
EN
Is this change acceptable and can I continue?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265
I don't think this is the best s
W dniu 19-12-06 o 17:40, Steve Doerr pisze:
> This will take some research, but...
>
> Many of these names will be translations or transliterations of one
> particular name first attested in one particular language. So, 'Black
> Sea' is likely to be a translation of some name in a different
> langu
Hey Mateusz, thanks for this question and sorry that none of the times I
offered fit your schedule!
I’ll start by suggesting that one of your assumptions is not accurate. Weak
license enforcement is bad for large organizations like my employer, Facebook.
We prefer clear rules and the legal team
W dniu 19-12-06 o 19:01, Andy Townsend pisze:
> On 06/12/2019 14:40, Tomek wrote:
>> EN
>> The problem is that the English imperialists want to impose their
>> language on other nations; and do not understand (do not want to
>> understand) how someone writes in a language other than English, is
>>
It is certainly the case. However, the new tools begin to change this
situation. For example, at Wikidata items one can add a translation into
any language quickly and conveniently.
The commercial websites also get the different language versions, since
it can be implemented now easily and rob
On 06/12/2019 14:40, Tomek wrote:
EN
The problem is that the English imperialists want to impose their
language on other nations; and do not understand (do not want to
understand) how someone writes in a language other than English, is it
so difficult to use Google / Yandex / Bing?
Taking a
The international language would be English. It is after all the language
of trade and as a consequence absorbed many words from other languages.
But that is taking a pragmatic view and is only one minor voice amongst all
the contributors. There will be many other voices decrying its use.
One a
This will take some research, but...
Many of these names will be translations or transliterations of one
particular name first attested in one particular language. So, 'Black
Sea' is likely to be a translation of some name in a different language
and which has subsequently been translated into
You understand correctly. And yes, you can guess a users language from
either http headers or geolocation or even a cookie. But the issue
there currently is, is that there is one Mapnik map with the captions
rendered in the tiles. To do something about that you would need to
make a different
On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277
W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze:
EN
Is this change acceptable and can I continue?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265
Not yet. Wait what people say in reply.
I personally am not a fan of using
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277
W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze:
> EO
> Ĉu tiu ĉi redakto estas akceptata kaj mi povas pluigi ŝanĝi?
> PL
> Czy ta zmiana jest akceptowalna i mogę kontynuować?
> EN
> Is this change acceptable and can I continue?
>
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/c
EO
Ĉu tiu ĉi redakto estas akceptata kaj mi povas pluigi ŝanĝi?
PL
Czy ta zmiana jest akceptowalna i mogę kontynuować?
EN
Is this change acceptable and can I continue?
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265
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W dniu 19-12-06 o 14:11, Martin Constantino–Bodin pisze:
> Probably the most important point: the goal of the Esperanto community
> is not to overcome English in some kind of epic battle. It is to
> provide language diversity and avoid language imperialism. Hence, the
> main point of the community
On 2019-12-06 14:11, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote:
Removing the name tag does not solve any problem. The renderer for
the map (or any program that needs to display the name tag) needs to
make a decision which tag to display. If the name tag is not present
it will have to fall back to another o
I agree with Oleksiy.
If you see Qxxx numbers in your editor ONLY it is the editor that should
be fixed to fetch the label/description in the local language (of the
browser, JOSM, or whatever tool you access our data through).
I believe that we should deprecate all wikipedia links as they are
Most people know where the Atlantic Ocean, and it is not a problem. But
if I want to see, for example, where is the Laptev Sea I cannot find it
on the OSM map, not on any layer.
Both the Atlantic Ocean and the Laptev Sea could be marked in Latin
language as Oceanus Atlanticus and Mare Laptevio
(Long post. TL;DR: I’m presenting the Esperanto community and I am
looking for instances where there is no default language involved around
the renderer.)
IMHO that is more a "he says, she says" argument than anything valid.
To me it comes more across that a small community wants to push its
ow
At least in the JOSM editor there is an additional text in English near
the wikidata code-title.
Since the wikidata title (or name) is usually translated on the wikidata
page itself in different languages and it is a part of the accessible
database, this text could be in different languages in
On 2019-12-06 11:46, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote:
Some context first. So there has been this changeset that triggered
some discussions: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77845837
Changeset comments in not a great place for discussion, so I suggest
that we continue here. (Thanks @Some
6 Dec 2019, 12:04 by frede...@remote.org:
> I have reverted a recent edit in which the "name" tag was removed from
> some "international" objects by a user (on the grounds of "if I cannot
> have an Esperanto name then nobody shall have a name for that object!"),
> however in principle, if the comm
Hi,
On 06.12.19 12:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
> place=continent nodes make no sense at all
True but there will likely be some great mind who, just to get a nice
"AFRICA" label on zoom level 2, will create a multipolygon encompassing
every single piece of coastline around the continent and call
I want to document some egregious cases of using OpenStreetMap
without required attribution. But I am not a lawyer and not a native speaker,
so likely there are many things to improve. Hopefully only minor ones, but
feedback is welcomed.
https://github.com/matkoniecz/illegal-use-of-OpenStreetMap/bl
Hi,
On 06.12.19 11:46, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote:
> The question I would like to ask is about the relevance of having a
> “name” tag in places where there is no default language—knowing that all
> the “name:en”, “name:eo”, etc. are already there. I can imagine that
> some renderers might exp
6 Dec 2019, 11:46 by martin.bo...@ens-lyon.org:
>
> Some context first. So there has been this changeset that triggered
> some discussions: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77845837>
> Changeset comments in not a great place for discussion, so I suggest
> that we continu
3 Dec 2019, 20:05 by m...@teczno.com:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I’m one of the twelve candidates running for OSMF board.
>
It seems that none of video calls times matches my time, so hopefully it is OK
to ask here.
How you plan to handle an obvious conflict of interest due to your FB
employment?
Interesting. I sent a message two days ago with a very similar topic,
but it hasn’t yet found a moderator to accept it (or reject it). I’m
sending it again here, maybe it can help with the discussion.
Regards,
Martin.
Hi,
Some context first. So there has been this changeset that triggered
s
6 Dec 2019, 09:55 by dieterdre...@gmail.com:
>
> Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen <> md...@xs4all.nl> >:
>
>> On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote:
>> The adjacent Caspian sea is displayed as دریاچه خزر which is not the
>> complete name tag (Каспийское море / Хәзәр дәнизи /
Often people may think that they speak English, but in fact they do not
speak it good enough. English seems to be an easy language, but it is as
difficult as it gets. Its real complexity is in numerous idiomatic
expressions.
I would say a person speak English if she/he sat and passed the exam
Hi,
On 06.12.19 09:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> you should argue why it is a good idea to have _one_ standard language
> in the project. IMHO it excludes many billions of people from
> participating,
Let's be careful with the word "exclude". Does the pizzeria around the
corner "exclude" billi
On 2019-12-06 09:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen
:
On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote:
Still, it is a Good Idea to have one standard (language) to
communicate
or define things, like everything meant for an international public
in
the wiki
For many geographical names there are articles in the Latin version of
Wikipedia. For example, for the Black Sea:
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontus_Euxinus
for Poland: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonia , for Canada:
https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada , etc.
So if one wishes to add a
What you describe is a rather trivial case. I agree that using OSM
requires knowledge about all possible tagging methods.
But even when you store all phone numbers as contact:phone in the
database, all data consumers will still need to offer that data when
people ask for phone. Especially in the c
Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen :
> On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote:
> The adjacent Caspian sea is displayed as دریاچه خزر which is not the
> complete name tag (Каспийское море / Хәзәр дәнизи / دریاچه خزر) but
> looks to me the name:fa (Farsi).
> For me, that is very bad si
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