Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Cartes les plus avancées

2019-12-06 Thread Philippe Verdy
Rennes est pas mal non plus (dont les parcs et jardins, et toutes les adresses), il reste du chantier permanent sur les lignes de transport bus qui vont loin dans la métropole et changent souvent, et surtout les nombreuses lignes scolaires. Les pôles d'échange de transport sont très détaillés

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SNT, éducation nationale / Nombre maximum d'appareils connectés à un compte

2019-12-06 Thread Philippe Verdy
1 compte par classe, mais possibilité de taguer les changeset avec un identifiant d'élève (connu du prof, pas forcément le nom de l'élève lui-même): donc préparation des postes chaque élève commence par envoyer un changeset de tests sur un serveur de la classe, où le prof peut voir chacun faire

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM : comment tracer un cercle de rayon donné autour d'un point

2019-12-06 Thread Philippe Verdy
Ca ne répond pas tout à fait au problème, puisque les 2 ou 3 noeuds n'incluent pas le centre. Il faut quand même placer au moins 2 noeuds correctement à bonne distance sur une ligne horizontale du centre connu, avant d'éliminer le point central, il serait plus simpel de juste tracer un rayon et

Re: [talk-cz] Role v relacích turistických tras

2019-12-06 Thread Tom Ka
Sorry, spadl mi mail klient a poslal nejakou blbost. Diky za upozorneni, za mne dobry i kdyz asi ne uplne zasadni. Bye tom.k On Sat, Dec 7, 2019, 03:41 Tom Ka wrote: > 604 823 412 > > On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 14:32 Michal Fabík wrote: > >> Ahoj, >> pro jistotu sem dám tohle: >> >>

Re: [talk-cz] Role v relacích turistických tras

2019-12-06 Thread Tom Ka
604 823 412 On Fri, Dec 6, 2019, 14:32 Michal Fabík wrote: > Ahoj, > pro jistotu sem dám tohle: > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-December/049528.html > > Nevím, jak kdo čte mezinárodní tagging list a někoho by to mohlo zajímat. > > -- > Michal Fabík > > >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF candidate office hours, ask me anything

2019-12-06 Thread Nuno Caldeira
On Fri, 6 Dec 2019, 20:13 Michal Migurski, wrote: > I’ll start by suggesting that one of your assumptions is not accurate. > Weak license enforcement is bad for large organizations like my employer, > Facebook. We prefer clear rules and the legal team here is pleased to see > that the LWG is

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Dec 2019, at 15:16, pangoSE wrote: > > I believe that we should deprecate all wikipedia links as they are just > potentially obsolete cruft that can be inferred from the wikidata item. (I am > also an editor of Wikidata) > > If you really want the Wikipedia link

Re: [OSRM-talk] Map matching for live data-streams, one point at a time

2019-12-06 Thread Daniel Patterson via OSRM-talk
1. Supply the coordinates in the order travelled: /match/v1/oldest;second-oldest;second-newest;newest 2. Hints aren't quite so helpful for the /matching API - reading the code I actually think there might be a bug here. If you pass in a hint, it'll only use the first snapped candidate from the

Re: [OSRM-talk] Map matching for live data-streams, one point at a time

2019-12-06 Thread Alex R
Thank you for the fast, detailed and reassuring response. I have some additional questions: 1. In what order must the list of coordinates be given? (i.e., http://127.0.0.1:5000/match/v1/driving/most-recent;second-most-recent;third-most-recent OR is it the other way around, and the "most-recent"

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 6. Dec 2019, at 10:36, Oleksiy Muzalyev > wrote: > > For many geographical names there are articles in the Latin version of > Wikipedia. For example, for the Black Sea: > https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontus_Euxinus it is a very short article, compared to currently

Re: [OSRM-talk] Map matching for live data-streams, one point at a time

2019-12-06 Thread Daniel Patterson via OSRM-talk
Hi Alex, If you simply want to find the nearest road to a GPS coordinate, the /nearest service is simpler. The /match service is specifically designed to match a sequence of GPS coordinates *with error* to the most likely path. The problem with using /nearest is that it has no context - if

[Talk-cat] Obertura de projectes d'importació del cadastre

2019-12-06 Thread yo paseopor
Després de vàries setmanes amb CatAtom2OSM sense funcionar, després d'una versió per arreglar errors i un nou docker us comunico que he obert els projectes de: -Gelida -Santa Coloma de Queralt -Vallirana -Per ara sé com funciona el procés així que qualsevol persona que desitgi que obri el seu

[OSRM-talk] Map matching for live data-streams, one point at a time

2019-12-06 Thread Alex R
Hi, I ask for advice in using OSRM with a live stream of data. The examples I've seen relate to tracks that can be passed into OSRM and it will apply "map matching" to snap all points to the roads, in one move. My scenario is different, I am trying to understand whether it is feasible with in

Re: [Talk-GB] ITO! World Tools

2019-12-06 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi Brian, Unfortunately due to a combination of proprietary code, and linking of the code with some of other systems, releasing the code isn’t possible. Shaun > On 6 Dec 2019, at 13:18, Brian Prangle wrote: > > Hi Shaun > > Would it be possible for itoworld to let us ( the UK chapter) have

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] JOSM : comment tracer un cercle de rayon donné autour d'un point

2019-12-06 Thread Yves P.
> Le raccourcis shift+o permet de transformer une ligne représentant le > diamètre en un cercle. Je restais sur le commentaire du menu « Créer un cercle à partir de 3 noeuds sélectionnés » Si on sélectionne 1 seul noeud ou plus de 3, le message d’erreur est clair 3 : « Sélectionnez exactement

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 16:58, Andy Townsend wrote: On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277 W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze: EN Is this change acceptable and can I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265 I don't think this is the best

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Tomek
W dniu 19-12-06 o 17:40, Steve Doerr pisze: > This will take some research, but... > > Many of these names will be translations or transliterations of one > particular name first attested in one particular language. So, 'Black > Sea' is likely to be a translation of some name in a different >

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF candidate office hours, ask me anything

2019-12-06 Thread Michal Migurski
Hey Mateusz, thanks for this question and sorry that none of the times I offered fit your schedule! I’ll start by suggesting that one of your assumptions is not accurate. Weak license enforcement is bad for large organizations like my employer, Facebook. We prefer clear rules and the legal

[talk-cz] MapTiler.CZ

2019-12-06 Thread xkomc...@centrum.cz
Ahojte, chtěl jsem se pochlubit nově spuštěným webem MapTiler.CZ. Kromě informací v češtině o tom, co vlastně děláme, je možné nově najít mapy ČR založené na OpenStreetMap v S-JTSK (tj. Křovákovo zobrazení): https://cloud.maptiler.com/maps/basic-5514/ Hodí se hlavně když chce člověk dělat

Re: [Talk-it] grosso allevamento polli

2019-12-06 Thread Alberto
Nella mia proposta originale animal_breeding è un allevamento, non c'è nessuna restrizione che siano animali da compagnia o meno. Quello al limite si può indicare con tag aggiuntivi, però al momento non definiti. Quindi è appropriato: amenity=animal_breeding animal_breeding=chicken Se invece si

Re: [Talk-es] Uso de landuse=residential

2019-12-06 Thread Roberto geb
Estoy de acuerdo en no compartir nodos con otros elementos (no seamos vagos que para las modificaciones da mucho más trabajo y las zonas no tienen que ser tan precisas como las calles), y voy más allá: ni siquiera con otros landuse y menos aún con límites administrativos. Pongo ejemplos: un

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Tomek via talk
W dniu 19-12-06 o 19:01, Andy Townsend pisze: > On 06/12/2019 14:40, Tomek wrote: >> EN >> The problem is that the English imperialists want to impose their >> language on other nations; and do not understand (do not want to >> understand) how someone writes in a language other than English, is >>

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
It is certainly the case. However, the new tools begin to change this situation. For example, at Wikidata items one can add a translation into any language quickly and conveniently. The commercial websites also get the different language versions, since it can be implemented now easily and

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 14:40, Tomek wrote: EN The problem is that the English imperialists want to impose their language on other nations; and do not understand (do not want to understand) how someone writes in a language other than English, is it so difficult to use Google / Yandex / Bing? Taking a

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread john whelan
The international language would be English. It is after all the language of trade and as a consequence absorbed many words from other languages. But that is taking a pragmatic view and is only one minor voice amongst all the contributors. There will be many other voices decrying its use. One

Re: [Talk-es] Uso de landuse=residential

2019-12-06 Thread Diego García
Buenas tardes. Yo sí le meto bastante tiempo a mapear coberturas y usos del suelo, y coincido contigo. - Límites compartidos: no debería ser jamás de los jamases, sino que debería tener cárcel. No os imagináis los problemas que da eso cuando viene detrás otro editor añadiendo o corrigiendo

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Steve Doerr
This will take some research, but... Many of these names will be translations or transliterations of one particular name first attested in one particular language. So, 'Black Sea' is likely to be a translation of some name in a different language and which has subsequently been translated

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Constantino–Bodin
You understand correctly. And yes, you can guess a users language from either http headers or geolocation or even a cookie. But the issue there currently is, is that there is one Mapnik map with the captions rendered in the tiles. To do something about that you would need to make a different

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Andy Townsend
On 06/12/2019 15:10, Tomek wrote: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277 W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze: EN Is this change acceptable and can I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265 Not yet.  Wait what people say in reply. I personally am not a fan of

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Tomek
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305640277 W dniu 19-12-06 o 16:08, Tomek pisze: > EO > Ĉu tiu ĉi redakto estas akceptata kaj mi povas pluigi ŝanĝi? > PL > Czy ta zmiana jest akceptowalna i mogę kontynuować? > EN > Is this change acceptable and can I continue? > >

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Tomek
EO Ĉu tiu ĉi redakto estas akceptata kaj mi povas pluigi ŝanĝi? PL Czy ta zmiana jest akceptowalna i mogę kontynuować? EN Is this change acceptable and can I continue? https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/78060265 <>___ talk mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam in JOSM

2019-12-06 Thread Tony OSM
Hi Brian Occasionally I have a problem displaying the images. I often see the road sign symbols and just one sequence track of photos. If I focus elsewhere sometimes the photo tracks become visible and I can view the images. Most of the time they work as expected. BTW - I still have the

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Tomek
W dniu 19-12-06 o 14:11, Martin Constantino–Bodin pisze: > Probably the most important point: the goal of the Esperanto community > is not to overcome English in some kind of epic battle. It is to > provide language diversity and avoid language imperialism. Hence, the > main point of the community

Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SNT, éducation nationale / Nombre maximum d'appareils connectés à un compte

2019-12-06 Thread Vincent Bergeot
Le 05/12/2019 à 14:39, marc marc a écrit : Donc l'idée "défendue" et mise dans la lettre aux DANE (délégation académique aux numériques éducatifs de France) c'est d'avoir un compte classe pour le temps du cours, avec profil précisant #snt, le lycée, la classe éventuellement, avec changement de

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 14:11, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote: Removing the name tag does not solve any problem. The renderer for the map (or any program that needs to display the name tag) needs to make a decision which tag to display. If the name tag is not present it will have to fall back to another

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread pangoSE
I agree with Oleksiy. If you see Qxxx numbers in your editor ONLY it is the editor that should be fixed to fetch the label/description in the local language (of the browser, JOSM, or whatever tool you access our data through). I believe that we should deprecate all wikipedia links as they

[talk-cz] Role v relacích turistických tras

2019-12-06 Thread Michal Fabík
Ahoj, pro jistotu sem dám tohle: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2019-December/049528.html Nevím, jak kdo čte mezinárodní tagging list a někoho by to mohlo zajímat. -- Michal Fabík ___ talk-cz mailing list talk-cz@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
Most people know where the Atlantic Ocean, and it is not a problem. But if I want to see, for example, where is the Laptev Sea I cannot find it on the OSM map, not on any layer. Both the Atlantic Ocean and the Laptev Sea could be marked in Latin language as Oceanus Atlanticus and Mare

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Constantino–Bodin
(Long post. TL;DR: I’m presenting the Esperanto community and I am looking for instances where there is no default language involved around the renderer.) IMHO that is more a "he says, she says" argument than anything valid. To me it comes more across that a small community wants to push its

[Talk-GB] OpenStreetCam in JOSM

2019-12-06 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi everyone Does anyone else have a problem displaying photo images in JOSM with the OSC plugin? I can only get the road sign icons and no photos. I've reinstalled the plugin and update JOSM but to no effect Regards Brian ___ Talk-GB mailing list

Re: [Talk-GB] ITO! World Tools

2019-12-06 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Shaun Would it be possible for itoworld to let us ( the UK chapter) have the source code for the road names feature - we're keen to replicate it using the new source of OS road names from OS Open Roads and we're hoping that other than dealing with a new datasource the comparison logic and

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
At least in the JOSM editor there is an additional text in English near the wikidata code-title. Since the wikidata title (or name) is usually translated on the wikidata page itself in different languages and it is a part of the accessible database, this text could be in different languages

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 11:46, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote: Some context first. So there has been this changeset that triggered some discussions: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77845837 Changeset comments in not a great place for discussion, so I suggest that we continue here. (Thanks

[Talk-es] Uso de landuse=residential

2019-12-06 Thread Lanxana .
Buenos días, a raíz de una duda que se planteó el otro día sobre el uso de la etiqueta landuse=residential, he consultado la wiki para ver cómo está documentado y cuál sería su uso según el nivel de mapeo que queramos dar. A día de hoy me he encontrado estas situaciones: - área que envuelve todo

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 Dec 2019, 12:04 by frede...@remote.org: > I have reverted a recent edit in which the "name" tag was removed from > some "international" objects by a user (on the grounds of "if I cannot > have an Esperanto name then nobody shall have a name for that object!"), > however in principle, if the

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06.12.19 12:01, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: > place=continent nodes make no sense at all True but there will likely be some great mind who, just to get a nice "AFRICA" label on zoom level 2, will create a multipolygon encompassing every single piece of coastline around the continent and call

[OSM-talk] reviewing documentation of blatant OSM plagiarism (Moovit, MAPS.ME)

2019-12-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
I want to document some egregious cases of using OpenStreetMap without required attribution. But I am not a lawyer and not a native speaker, so likely there are many things to improve. Hopefully only minor ones, but feedback is welcomed.

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06.12.19 11:46, Martin Constantino–Bodin wrote: > The question I would like to ask is about the relevance of having a > “name” tag in places where there is no default language—knowing that all > the “name:en”, “name:eo”, etc. are already there.  I can imagine that > some renderers might

Re: [OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 Dec 2019, 11:46 by martin.bo...@ens-lyon.org: > > Some context first.  So there has been this changeset that triggered > some discussions: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/77845837> > Changeset comments in not a great place for discussion, so I suggest > that we

Re: [OSM-talk] OSMF candidate office hours, ask me anything

2019-12-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
3 Dec 2019, 20:05 by m...@teczno.com: > Hi everyone, > > I’m one of the twelve candidates running for OSMF board. > It seems that none of video calls times matches my time, so hopefully it is OK to ask here. How you plan to handle an obvious conflict of interest due to your FB employment?

[OSM-talk] Relevance of the “name” tag in places where there is no obvious associated language

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Constantino–Bodin
Interesting. I sent a message two days ago with a very similar topic, but it hasn’t yet found a moderator to accept it (or reject it). I’m sending it again here, maybe it can help with the discussion. Regards, Martin. Hi, Some context first.  So there has been this changeset that triggered

[talk-cz] WeeklyOSM CZ 488

2019-12-06 Thread Tom Ka
Ahoj, je dostupné vydání 488 týdeníku WeeklyOSM: https://weeklyosm.eu/cz/archives/12580 * Videa z SotM CZ+SK! * Prosincové mapathony. * freemap.sk do JOSM. * Zkušenosti Heather Lesonové. * Členství OSMF dle země. * Shrnutí SotM Latam. * Mikrogranty HOT 2020. * Licence pro Editor Layer Index. *

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
6 Dec 2019, 09:55 by dieterdre...@gmail.com: > > Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen <> md...@xs4all.nl> >: > >> On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote: >> The adjacent Caspian sea is displayed as دریاچه خزر which is not the >> complete name tag (Каспийское море / Хәзәр дәнизи /

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
Often people may think that they speak English, but in fact they do not speak it good enough. English seems to be an easy language, but it is as difficult as it gets. Its real complexity is in numerous idiomatic expressions. I would say a person speak English if she/he sat and passed the exam

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 06.12.19 09:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > you should argue why it is a good idea to have _one_ standard language > in the project. IMHO it excludes many billions of people from > participating, Let's be careful with the word "exclude". Does the pizzeria around the corner "exclude"

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Maarten Deen
On 2019-12-06 09:55, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote: Still, it is a Good Idea to have one standard (language) to communicate or define things, like everything meant for an international public in the wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Oleksiy Muzalyev
For many geographical names there are articles in the Latin version of Wikipedia. For example, for the Black Sea: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontus_Euxinus for Poland: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polonia , for Canada: https://la.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canada , etc. So if one wishes to add

Re: [OSM-talk] tagtransform for OSM - An effort make tagging and using OSM data easier; bridging different worlds together

2019-12-06 Thread Marc Gemis
What you describe is a rather trivial case. I agree that using OSM requires knowledge about all possible tagging methods. But even when you store all phone numbers as contact:phone in the database, all data consumers will still need to offer that data when people ask for phone. Especially in the

Re: [OSM-talk] nomoj de internaciaj objektoj / nazwy obiektów międzynarodowych ? names of international objects

2019-12-06 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
Am Fr., 6. Dez. 2019 um 08:08 Uhr schrieb Maarten Deen : > On 2019-12-05 22:12, Tomek wrote: > The adjacent Caspian sea is displayed as دریاچه خزر which is not the > complete name tag (Каспийское море / Хәзәр дәнизи / دریاچه خزر) but > looks to me the name:fa (Farsi). > For me, that is very bad