[OSM-talk] Tools to help find areas corrupted by redaction

2012-07-27 Thread Alan Mintz
Another thing is that these sawtooth ways tend to cross other ways without intersection, so this is a good indicator, too. Lastly, I'm noticing orphan nodes in areas that need work. These would make good layer(s) in the Geofabrik OSM Inspect

Re: [OSM-talk] Naming disputes in Ukraine

2012-07-25 Thread Alan Mintz
o "vast majority" (say, less than 80%), I would suggest no "name" tag - only "name:xx" tags. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OT - Unusual Bing imagery

2012-07-23 Thread Alan Mintz
with very nice imagery described as "flyover", as though coming from airplane/helicopter, apparently on a contract basis. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Slippy map with Bing background

2012-07-19 Thread Alan Mintz
g for a browser-only, no-login/no-edit solution. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Rebuild] Progress update

2012-06-21 Thread Alan Mintz
em. Instead, there's just this seemingly-mindless progression going on. I'm want to make sure the "real" mapping community knows what's going to happen to their data and hope they'll speak up about it.) -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Custom Imagery

2012-06-18 Thread Alan Mintz
ith the same lat/lon in the JOSM viewport. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Unauthorized mechanical edit - changeset 11913785 - amenity=airport->aeroway=aerodrome

2012-06-18 Thread Alan Mintz
igure out the correct tag to use, and this problem is only getting bigger. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Specific Cases of Governments Using OSM

2012-06-15 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-06-15 02:04, Kate Chapman wrote: I'm looking for examples of governments using OSM data Not huge, but nice: http://www.whitehouse.gov/change/ -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [OSM-talk] new bing hires updates not visible in JOSM?

2012-06-14 Thread Alan Mintz
nces). It should be "bing:http://www.bing.com/maps/";. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Import of buildings in Chicago

2012-05-28 Thread Alan Mintz
eed to be manually merged into OSM. Except you won't see possible errors introduced after the first import by OSM editors. I think it's useful to see the diff between the current state of both databases. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mail

Re: [OSM-talk] Copy-and-paste remapping

2012-05-28 Thread Alan Mintz
hangeset_Lists#Wikipedia.2Cetc._imports_in_Czech_Republic The rest are easily done now that I have scripts for it, but I get that the page might get overwhelmingly large. How about sub-pages for each section with my tables, and just the plain-text lists, a link to the sub-page, and the summary line on

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM : It's a shame !!!

2012-05-28 Thread Alan Mintz
y the responses so far haven't mentioned the most glaring reason for this. The license-compliance redaction has not yet begun! Even your data that haven't been touched still remain because they have not yet begun the process of removing the non-compliant data (thankfully).

Re: [OSM-talk] Copy-and-paste remapping

2012-05-28 Thread Alan Mintz
Looking at the description of the first set and random samples of the next two, it seems they are all in Europe. Is that correct? The last three are not linked. Is there a reason for that, or should I fix it? It might be useful to give at least over

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM data density - top regions

2012-05-27 Thread Alan Mintz
XML would be 31KB (1.9% of current). * 0.5 mi x 0.5 mi (800 m x 800 m) at minlat='35.3979622' minlon='-119.1277814' maxlat='35.4052032' maxlon='-119.1188657' -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstre

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Alan Mintz
is American English (e.g. "visualization"). -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Alan Mintz
place=locality" which is correct for unpopulated places (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Locality). Maybe. Is it possible that those are not real villages, but names of historical villages or settlements (and shouldn't be tagged as current placenames)? Can someone in Spain

Re: [OSM-talk] Worst of OSM

2012-05-15 Thread Alan Mintz
tly became reasonable to map with JOSM because of the ability to filter the download process. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] near by

2012-05-10 Thread Alan Mintz
ch is provided by the phone). Thanks everyone for the input! It really helped me find the right direction, or at least reasonable. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] [Rebuild] update 25 April

2012-04-27 Thread Alan Mintz
be to the rest of the project. Also, while some originally objected to the huge amount of license-related discussion going on on the talk list, it seems like important things like progress updates need a wider audience than just the rebuild list. --

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-dev] Overpass API questions

2012-04-27 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2012-04-27 09:37, Roland Olbricht wrote: Alan Mintz wrote: > Another problem appears to be that [key!=value] filters out any way that > does not have a key tag at all, in addition to those that have key=value, > which is not what I need. Yes, this has been the behaviour expected

Re: [OSM-talk] Truth about media hype in Microsoft lending big support and big dollars to OSM ?

2012-04-03 Thread Alan Mintz
t for helping us that they want to take. I don't know about _that_, but I'll agree the Bing imagery _has_ been great and thank them for it. Nice to have (mostly) high-res, (mostly) well-aligned, well-served imagery as compared with previous MSRMaps, USGS,

Re: [OSM-talk] Way with only one single node

2012-03-20 Thread Alan Mintz
exist, I expect that it is up to editors (client software) to enforce that a way has more than one node, not the database itself. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Data reconciliation. Removing CT/ODbL declined users.

2011-07-20 Thread Alan Mintz
these specific questions seems necessary in order to know how to reconcile. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap License Change Phase 3 Pre-Announcement

2011-04-15 Thread Alan Mintz
acceptance of the original creator/intermediate editors/last editor is key to deciding whether I should accept or decline. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping 'risky areas'

2011-03-25 Thread Alan Mintz
rhoods, by people demanding to know why I'm taking pics of their houses. I've scaled way back on capturing addresses for this reason. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Another large edit gone wrong (McDonald's)

2011-03-04 Thread Alan Mintz
#x27;. There's over 130 of them (excluding names). I'm surprised that's all. As you point out, it is acceptable enough that it is often used in names. Can anyone think of any other crude labelling that should be corrected? Now that's funny. Last time I looked at TW, I was

Re: [OSM-talk] all our addresses are belong to you

2011-03-03 Thread Alan Mintz
building and more correct that dragging it to the next block, or the next town, if you don't know the feature personally? -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-03-02 Thread Alan Mintz
0, -117.1024399), reducing complexity and improving appearance. http://3667a17de9b94ccf8fd278f9de62dae4.cloudapp.net/DetectRoad.svc/explore/?pt1=33.4583630,-117.1031114&pt2=33.4578704,-117.1037238&bbox=33.467,-117.109,33.452,-117.091 -- Alan Mintz _

Re: [OSM-talk] magical road detector to play with

2011-02-13 Thread Alan Mintz
c/detect/?pt1=47.6312440,-122.1126077&pt2=47.6263360,-122.1179483&bbox=47.632,-122.119,47.625,-122.109 it complains "Error Status Code: 'BadRequest' Details: The points are too close together." Even though these points are further apart (~700m) than the

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I get higher-resolution imagery in JOSM?

2011-01-10 Thread Alan Mintz
her zoom levels and the higher-res imagery. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I get higher-resolution imagery in JOSM?

2011-01-10 Thread Alan Mintz
stion. BTW, the previous way to avoid the blank tiles was to turn off auto-zoom (right-click on image, uncheck auto-zoom) once you figured out where the max zoom was. The new solution is much better, of course. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk maili

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2011-01-05 Thread Alan Mintz
urce_ref=AM909_ [;AM909_...] + image_direction=[;...] to imply (to me) no signals for when we agree on tagging, but they could still be (and often are) non-all-way-stops, so I guess means I'd have to review the photos. -- Alan Mintz ___ ta

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2011-01-04 Thread Alan Mintz
error) > I think we definitely need to define defaults that make sense for each > country, and formalise this in some way. Preferably in the database, > perhaps as tags on the country boundary: "default:no_left_turn=yes" or > something. Yes. Not just c

Re: [OSM-talk] new version of Bing Imagery Analyzer

2011-01-04 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2011-01-04 07:13, Martijn van Exel wrote: I fixed it. It would detect anything up to z22 now. Nice :) Are you aware that the imagery won't zoom past z20, though? -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] new version of Bing Imagery Analyzer

2011-01-04 Thread Alan Mintz
lot of places. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-31 Thread Alan Mintz
across many intersections in a row to speed up traffic, which could benefit from this, too. Syntax should probably should be something like restriction:=[;...] just to be clear, though I can only picture it being used for the "from" role at the m

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-31 Thread Alan Mintz
split into "dual carriageways". The US is full of such roads, too, where routers currently allow a left turn that is physically impossible or unlawful. We need an alternative to splitting such roads into dual carriageways. -- Alan Mintz _

Re: [OSM-talk] Turn left restriction on two way highways

2010-12-29 Thread Alan Mintz
the past about creating defaults for various rules such as these turning rules, speed limits, etc. tagged on administrative boundaries (country, state, county, etc.), for use by routing software. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstr

[OSM-talk] Ultra-high-res Bing imagery?

2010-12-29 Thread Alan Mintz
l the way in until you get white imagery tiles, then back out slowly until they go away, then show tile info to see what the max zoom level is. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-23 Thread Alan Mintz
o be. There was a long discussion a while ago about using GUIDs for that if necessary. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Did Googles map quality recently degrade?

2010-12-21 Thread Alan Mintz
that can happen. The sick thing is that it may not matter to their business model. Like many other things, you don't have to be good - just be there. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-19 Thread Alan Mintz
m the FAA datasheets or imports them from their dataset if available. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Alan Mintz
dison Palm Springs Area Heliport, which was imported from GNIS near I-15 around Riverside, CA, but does not exist (at least nowhere near there from the name). -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Alan Mintz
From http://www.ourairports.com/about.html , under Credits: "Google Maps for providing a free, high-quality mapping API and geocoder" -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Massive import of airports

2010-12-17 Thread Alan Mintz
, the FAA is a reasonably accurate and timely (monthly) source of information. If ourairports.com aggregates multiple timely sources, I could see the value in an ongoing import from them, but keep in mind that there are other sites that do the same thing, who might should be considered

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread Alan Mintz
resent, though badly mis-aligned in places. So, I guess I take my trips to add value in terms of those POIs, road characteristics (lanes, speed limits, condition), turn-restrictions, etc. Not to mention, it's been fun going out there and seeing places I've ne

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-08 Thread Alan Mintz
gnite local interest. If someone on an island goes to OSM and sees nothing, they might likely just move on. If, however, they see the land mass and the main road with some other features that may not be correct, they are more likely to get interested in fixing them. -- Alan Mintz __

Re: [OSM-talk] Google fumbles again in latin america

2010-11-09 Thread Alan Mintz
get Google to use this dataset for international borders at least (apparently without success), since it appears to be sourced from individual countries and treaties, cross-checked, etc. Even just an audit against that data would have flagged this fairly wide discre

Re: [OSM-talk] Exceeded API bandwidth limit, now what?

2010-09-24 Thread Alan Mintz
on cleaning up all these unnecessary nodes - so I can get back to mapping the area from my survey. Please fix this. BTW, I updated the API 0.6 wiki page to include this error with a link to the comment about it in the Dev FAQ, since searching for the text of the message

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there an OSM on Android with hand gesture zoom?

2010-09-15 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-09-14 08:07, Dave F. wrote: I've had a look through most of the android list on the wiki http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Android for a map that uses pinch movements to zoom but most appear to use +/- to do it. OSMAnd works well on my HTC Incredible. -- Alan

Re: [OSM-talk] Beaches at lower zoom levels

2010-08-18 Thread Alan Mintz
the coastline seems excessive, is there a way around this? Are coastlines supposed to be on the low-tide position, high-tide position, or middle of the beach? I've been gluing the low-tide side of beaches to coastline on the few I've edited, since their position suggested that was the

Re: [OSM-talk] collection/street relation: which one to use?

2010-08-18 Thread Alan Mintz
t to mention far denser in terms of address points. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] proposal: rental=*

2010-08-17 Thread Alan Mintz
ensing=yes shop=chemist;stationery;convenience -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] RFC: what are empty nodes and how should we use them?

2010-08-16 Thread Alan Mintz
;s continued use? Do people that use it really feel that strongly? Sebastian ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Legal discussion on talk@

2010-08-13 Thread Alan Mintz
t) don't have to. If/when something significant is agreed upon, it should be summarized in as unbiased a way as possible and posted to announce, and people should be reminded to subscribe to announce. (and I apologize for adding to the noise :) ) -- Alan Mintz __

Re: [OSM-talk] BDFL & Moderation

2010-08-11 Thread Alan Mintz
the idea - "circuit breakers" generally prove to be a good way to stop a runaway in other fields. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Blah blah blah

2010-08-10 Thread Alan Mintz
to have to react to and filter out all the license-related discussion, not to mention the other threads it has infested, or where it is hidden behind something innocent-sounding (like "Blah blah blah" :) ). -- Alan Mintz ___

Re: [OSM-talk] How do I turn JOSM's tiger:reviewed=no highlight off?

2010-08-02 Thread Alan Mintz
be easily kept while allowing new base changes to come through. This would also allow better organization of various types of things into separate files, letting you choose someone's cycle rendering and someone else's maxspeeds. -- Alan Mintz

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection

2010-07-23 Thread Alan Mintz
spend a totally unreasonable amount of time mapping turn restrictions (mostly no-u-turn) as it is, and even that is hard to justify. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Wiki key:maxspeed page

2010-07-14 Thread Alan Mintz
why should there be a conversion table on the wiki page? Anyone mind if I remove it? -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Mintz
e.g. Bob's Auto Service). -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Mintz
ve been to) name="Big Corner Texaco" brand=Texaco ref=123456 operator="Bob Smith" -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-13 Thread Alan Mintz
enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php _______ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-12 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-12 14:35, John Smith wrote: On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz wrote: > I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets > where I believe it is incorrect. This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags that look like english words a

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-12 Thread Alan Mintz
ator=Subway, you are saying that Subway operates the restaurant, which is incorrect. Subway rents use of their brand name and collective advertising for 12.5% of the gross sales, and may also act as a vendor for some or all of the supplies, but the owner/operator of the restaurant is someone else

Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator

2010-07-12 Thread Alan Mintz
ight come as an additional attribute but it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank I would tag name=*. operator and brand

Re: [OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?

2010-07-12 Thread Alan Mintz
does for adjacent land parcels (landuse=* closed ways) and administrative subdivisions (boundary=administrative closed ways) too. If they really are two polygons of a similar type that share a single interface (edge), then glue them. If they just happen to have parts that seem to lie i

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection

2010-07-12 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-11 23:44, Maarten Deen wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:03:02 -0700, Alan Mintz wrote: > I like bringing everything together to a single intersection point > because that's what it (topo)logically is - a single intersection > controlled by a group of signals operating tog

Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection

2010-07-11 Thread Alan Mintz
ngle intersection controlled by a group of signals operating together (or stop signs with drivers co-operating). -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Area-type objects and ways along its boundaries

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Mintz
ith the centerline of the road. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Area-type objects and ways along its boundaries

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Mintz
At 2010-07-06 13:21, Pieren wrote: On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Alan Mintz <alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net> wrote: It's exactly because they are added from different sources that it is incorrect to merge them. If you adjust a border from a "more accurate" source, you shou

Re: [OSM-talk] Area-type objects and ways along its boundaries

2010-07-06 Thread Alan Mintz
der alone. It may happen to coincide in places with the physical centerline of a feature, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are the same thing. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Tsunami warning siren?

2010-06-27 Thread Alan Mintz
Is the device near the upper right of this pic: http://sites.google.com/site/am909geo/osm-1/TsunamiAlert.jpg a tsunami warning siren? I've seen a number of similar devices in coastal areas. This particular one is at 33.4993, -117.67656. -- Alan

Re: [OSM-talk] Planet file now at 10 GB

2010-06-03 Thread Alan Mintz
ce if, on upload, the API would automatically do this and add a tag with that info. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Giving everything a unique ID

2010-06-02 Thread Alan Mintz
I have no problem with giving things a permid. But seriously, we can't go around slapping stickers on the physical world. It's called vandalism. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-06-02 Thread Alan Mintz
d=no tag than to delete it from the route relation. -- Alan Mintz ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] On the ground rule on the wiki

2010-06-02 Thread Alan Mintz
Most bulk imports to an existing mapped area should be discouraged. Even TIGER09, which looked much better than earlier data, still has significant problems. I only use it in small areas of new development, and even then, it takes a lot of work to connect with existing data. -- Alan Mintz

Re: [OSM-talk] Navigation Debug Map Style Available

2010-05-22 Thread Alan Mintz
value and append >" mph"! " This seems more consistent with the "tag what you see" concept. Additionally, I've seen mappers use (a very) wrong conversion factor, as surprising as that seems. Even using 1.6 instead of 1.6093 results in 88 kph = 55 mph instead of