Re: [OSM-talk] Why no link from osm.org to osmbugs.org?

2011-02-20 Thread Dave F.
On 20/02/2011 09:36, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Could it be because not many people use it? I still don't understand why, in a collaborative project, that osmbugs is used as a record to get other people to amend missing items Feel free to put the modifications you would like to see on

Re: [OSM-talk] Why no link from osm.org to osmbugs.org?

2011-02-20 Thread Dave F.
On 19/02/2011 18:59, Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote: Le 19/02/2011 19:27, Dave F. a écrit : On 19/02/2011 17:30, Richard Mann wrote: There's probably some good reason, but why isn't there a link from osm.org to report a bug? Could it be because not many people use it? I still don't

Re: [OSM-talk] Why no link from osm.org to osmbugs.org?

2011-02-19 Thread Dave F.
useful is the likes of Keepright which can flag up fixme tags. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] It's fun while it lasts

2011-02-12 Thread Dave F.
On 11/02/2011 11:19, Steve Chilton wrote: When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Ooh, Aah Cantona! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-10 Thread Dave F.
On 09/02/2011 11:53, ant wrote: Hi Dave, On 09.02.2011 12:26, Dave F. wrote: Sorry, but I'm failing to see the point in this tool. Why would someone need to get an idea about where hi-res is? At 14 it gives inaccurate readings, at 14 you're to far in to *get an idea*. Hope you can explain

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-10 Thread Dave F.
On 10/02/2011 23:49, Dave F. wrote: The blank areas have hi-res imagery (caveat: I have checked every tile) I *haven't* checked To follow on: http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=51.420057188094106lon=-2.4574914579781226zoom=20 In order to see if an area is super high

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-10 Thread Dave F.
On 11/02/2011 00:07, Dermot McNally wrote: I think the theory is that if you have already done the hard work of zooming in, the next guy won't have to because he'll see the coloured tiles at that location. if someone has to do that first to highlight the data that's already there, then I

Re: [Talk-GB] Incorrect use of OS VectorMap District when mapping?

2011-02-10 Thread Dave F.
On 10/02/2011 10:30, Peter Miller wrote: Personally I would prefer a single linear way for streams rather than the area 'river-bank' approach which the OS use... Ideally it should be mapped with both: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:waterway%3Driverbank Cheers Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage - more levels

2011-02-09 Thread Dave F.
to get an idea about where hi-res is? At 14 it gives inaccurate readings, at 14 you're to far in to *get an idea*. Hope you can explain it to me. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Yahoo! areas (was pay_scale_area)

2011-02-09 Thread Dave F.
such as rivers. This may have been superseded by Bing, but I'm not sure if UK coverage of it is fully high-res (zoom 21). Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] pay_scale_area

2011-02-09 Thread Dave F.
had doubts about its validity in the main database. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=unsurfaced

2011-01-09 Thread Dave F.
if there's a way to mass email the persons who tagged them that way ask them to check clarify? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] amenity=Observatory OR amenity=astronomical_observatory

2011-01-09 Thread Dave F.
On 09/01/2011 21:06, marcellobil...@gmail wrote: Hi all, just a question for all the community which one tag is better: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Observatory or http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/amenity=astronomical_ob servatory I realized just now

Re: [OSM-talk] What phones do OSMers have?

2011-01-06 Thread Dave F.
On 05/01/2011 07:39, Lester Caine wrote: Dave F. wrote: There's a lot of people on this list... Err... So? We would prefer less of the bad language. THAT is grounds for a simple ban! Yes you're correct, I regret the language I used, but stand by what I said. Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] What phone survey results

2011-01-06 Thread Dave F.
using what 'phone; I wanted to know why *you* wanted to know. Was that too hard to comprehend? Your failure to give a conclusive reason suggests an ulterior motive. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

[OSM-talk] We are Here --

2011-01-06 Thread Dave F.
in the direction of the wiki examples, but I think a couple of real world setups would help convince them. Ones with marker overlays or 'we are here' arrows would be even better. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] What phones do OSMers have?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/01/2011 02:52, Anthony wrote: On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Being curious in return, why are you curious? Well, he does work for Microsoft... Good point. So his post is external marketing spam should be deleted. Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] What phones do OSMers have?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave F.
whatsoever, has the same beliefs as me. In future keep your gob shut until you know what you're talking about. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] What phones do OSMers have?

2011-01-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/01/2011 22:51, Floris Looijesteijn wrote: What? Did I miss a message from Frederik? I think his remark was completely fair. He inferred my comments beliefs onto someone else. How is that fair? There's a lot of people on this list... Err... So? Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] What phones do OSMers have?

2011-01-03 Thread Dave F.
source? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Street Names

2010-12-30 Thread Dave F.
address database, created between Local Councils and Ordnance Survey. It looks like Royal Mail will be sidelined as they just make the names up. Hope this helps Yes it does, thanks. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-29 Thread Dave F.
copy the history. A similar problem of loosing the history occurs when I resize roundabouts using the parallel tool. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-29 Thread Dave F.
this used to be a node entity with the the id of XYZ123 whilst keeping the id it was given when created. The other tag attributes such as amenity, name etc could be copied directly with no problems Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Converting buildings from nodes to ways

2010-12-29 Thread Dave F.
On 29/12/2010 21:13, Dave F. wrote: On 29/12/2010 20:17, andrzej zaborowski wrote: Hi Dave, On 29 December 2010 21:04, Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 29/12/2010 17:30, andrzej zaborowski wrote: On 29 December 2010 13:47, Dave F.dave...@madasafish.comwrote: On 23/12/2010 12:10

[Talk-GB] Street name disagreement - whose right or wrong?

2010-12-26 Thread Dave F.
? Any other information or comments welcome? Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch 2 'sticking' in Bristol

2010-12-24 Thread Dave F.
On 24/12/2010 08:39, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Dave F. wrote: Hmm.. FYI as the problem seems to occur over most of Bristol I should tell you I've been adding the residential areas to a multi-polygon (Relation 1277566) Their number complexity (inner outer areas) have grown considerably; maybe

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch 2 'sticking' in Bristol

2010-12-23 Thread Dave F.
On 23/12/2010 17:39, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Dave F. wrote: It appears that it could be the volume of entities as when I pan in to the centre from more rural areas it's fine until it reach densely tagged areas. If I pan quick enough it's fine until the screen has displayed the vast majority

Re: [Talk-GB] Potlatch 2 'sticking' in Bristol

2010-12-23 Thread Dave F.
of Bristol I should tell you I've been adding the residential areas to a multi-polygon (Relation 1277566) Their number complexity (inner outer areas) have grown considerably; maybe by too much. Good luck with organ. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing

[OSM-talk] Beginners guide to mapping technique?

2010-12-21 Thread Dave F.
Hi Is there a guide, not so much for the mechanics like learning how to use a GPS upload data, but more about the technique etiquette of mapping such as map what you see on the ground etc. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Someone already had a look at the Bing Terms of Use?

2010-12-18 Thread Dave F.
looking for concrete evidence it would be better if you kept quiet until you had some Seriously, the more you post, the more I distrust you. Frederick: OSM making it up as you go along is that way Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Released: OpenMaps for iOS v4.0. An idea how to increase OSM awareness.

2010-12-18 Thread Dave F.
, all you have to do is... The software always ended up being crap. Sorry If that's not what you wanted to hear, but that's the way I see it, and you did ask. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] Bing maps is misplaced

2010-12-16 Thread Dave F.
On 15/12/2010 11:16, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: Please tag roads derived from aerial imagery as highway=road No real need. From Bing you can deduce whether it's residential or service etc. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Could someone revert these Changesets please.

2010-12-14 Thread Dave F.
that lots of people use. I've reverted one way that didn't need explicit foot tags. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Could someone revert these Changesets please.

2010-12-11 Thread Dave F.
in error. Thanks Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] routing across open spaces

2010-12-06 Thread Dave F.
directly across an area?? They don't have to *follow* the perimeter just use it to find the best exit then join it to the entrance to the area with a straight line. Are you certain no routers can do that? Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] routing across open spaces

2010-12-06 Thread Dave F.
On 06/12/2010 21:06, David Murn wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:56 +, Dave F. wrote: - which, if all they know about is the perimeter, is probably a good thing. Eh? I thought you said you'd love it if it cut directly across an area?? They don't have to *follow* the perimeter just use

Re: [OSM-talk] routing across open spaces

2010-12-06 Thread Dave F.
On 06/12/2010 21:42, David Murn wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 21:18 +, Dave F. wrote: On 06/12/2010 21:06, David Murn wrote: On Mon, 2010-12-06 at 20:56 +, Dave F. wrote: - which, if all they know about is the perimeter, is probably a good thing. Eh? I thought you said you'd love

Re: [OSM-talk] routing across open spaces

2010-12-05 Thread Dave F.
be mapped to make OSM more accurate.. As long as there are external ways connecting to the area, a router should be able to find the appropriate entrances exits by tracking the perimeter. I thought they were already able to do that, but maybe not. Cheers Dave F

[OSM-talk] Potlatch2 almost down?

2010-11-27 Thread Dave F.
else? Ta Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Stupid tags

2010-11-18 Thread Dave F.
this email. I don't have specific alternatives to those, except to say entities should be primarily tagged with their physical attributes. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Stupid tags

2010-11-18 Thread Dave F.
On 18/11/2010 20:07, Jonathan Bennett wrote: On 18/11/2010 19:36, Dave F. wrote: There are too many to list, but whilst this is topical, I have a minor problem with natural=*. It's far too general. I mean, everything under the sun is either natural or man made. Also historical=* is just too

Re: [OSM-talk] tracking deletions

2010-11-17 Thread Dave F.
the opposite turns the undeleted ways off? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] ODBL Coverage

2010-11-17 Thread Dave F.
the lack of definitive answers I can only assume that haven't. How can they ask us to agree to something that they created yet don't understand? Very poor. Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] New site about the license change

2010-11-14 Thread Dave F.
think this data would be lost? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-11-02 Thread Dave F.
too difficult to change. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] highway=ford vs ford=yes

2010-10-31 Thread Dave F.
/mini_roundabout nodes as well? Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] NaPTAN station codes

2010-10-26 Thread Dave F.
Rail Enquiries. Using that unique descriptive key clarifies what it is your trying to describe makes it *easier* for everyone to remember.. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
as a primary. Primary tags should be used to describe what it is, not whom it *might* be used by. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 10:38, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/10/25 Dave F.dave...@madasafish.com: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information no, please not.

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
database? That's up to the parser. However putting tourism=art_gallery for example gives no indication of what type it is: Is it indoors or outdoors? Is it in a building, marquee, greenhouse? etc. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 16:27, Nathan Edgars II wrote: Dave F. wrote: On 25/10/2010 10:17, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: what about tourism=information with it's several subtags? Seems to fit perfectly IMHO as a primary tag. building=tourist_information And if it's not a building? Please read all

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
On 25/10/2010 14:00, Anthony wrote: Why tag all museums with tourism=yes when you can just put a single line in the search engine which says that museums (or perhaps museums without access=no) are places for tourism. Good point, well made. ___ talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Amenity key

2010-10-25 Thread Dave F.
tourism=art_gallery for example gives no indication of what type it is: Is it indoors or outdoors? Is it in a building, marquee, greenhouse? etc. +1 Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] SotM11 will be held in Denver.

2010-10-24 Thread Dave F.
born US residents spread the idea throughout the world etc Is that why Dell launched it's Streak mobile 'phone in the UK first? . Also consider the fact that the Cloudmade and MapQuest ambassador programs What's an 'ambassador' program? Cheers Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] New: Mobile Map for Android and iPhone

2010-10-22 Thread Dave F.
On 22/10/2010 11:42, Bernhard Zwischenbrugger wrote: Android: For zoom in/out the map you have 2 buttons. This will zoom the map center. So I assume it can't deal with hand gestures? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-talk] New: Mobile Map for Android and iPhone

2010-10-22 Thread Dave F.
that will change in 3.0. I don't understand. If it's possible in 2.1/2.2 then what needs to change in 3.0? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot amended relations today

2010-10-12 Thread Dave F.
=* to describe waterways. I believe this is incorrect. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] Proposal: winter roads

2010-10-08 Thread Dave F.
it forms ice. If they are closed during the summer, tag it as that, since it's a fact. Add a from-to date tag if known. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

[OSM-talk] Accidentally deleted relations in UK

2010-10-06 Thread Dave F.
Hi In changeset http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5964175 User m902 accidentally deleted the four relations listed. I've had an apologetic email from him confirming that. Could I ask someone with more expertise than me to revert them please. Cheers Dave F

[Talk-GB] Relation deletions

2010-10-06 Thread Dave F.
Hi FYI It appears a user of a couple of months has accidentally deleted some county boundaries railway route relations. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5964175 I've emailed him to check. I'll let you know of his response. Cheers Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] Relation history times out

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/10/2010 14:18, Gregory Williams wrote: You could just query the last few revisions manually, like this: http://api.openstreetmap.org/api/0.6/relation/152791/77 Ah! through the api. i was trying similar, but through /browser/ Thanks Gregory Cheers Dave F

[OSM-talk] Relation history times out

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
Hi I've a relation whose history I want to view. It's failing on this error: Sorry, the data for the relation with the id 152791, took too long to retrieve. Presumably because we're up to version 78. Is there a way to overcome this, say to just view the last few revisions? Cheers Dave F

[OSM-talk] Bot amended relations today

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
as it removes the route tag the canal way already has the tag: tag k=waterway v=canal/ As he's used a bot to go worldwide, I thought I'd better flag it up. I'm sure not all his edits are incorrect, but I think it would be worth checking locally. Cheers Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] Bot amended relations today

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/10/2010 17:28, Peter Körner wrote: Am 04.10.2010 18:23, schrieb Dave F.: I'm sure not all his edits are incorrect, but I think it would be worth checking locally. Could you please mail him with this specific problem and see if he's willing to take back his actions? If he needs help

Re: [OSM-talk] Tagging of a large slab of concrete with many bus routes going over it

2010-10-04 Thread Dave F.
On 04/10/2010 18:39, Jo wrote: My biggest beef with the rendering are all those little one way arrows. Who cares about that when you got seven pubs adjacent to each other! :-) DaveF. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-03 Thread Dave F.
On 03/10/2010 14:12, Rob Myers wrote: On 10/02/2010 12:18 AM, Dave F. wrote: Broadcasting the fact you think a contributor, who disagrees with you, should be banned purely because they have a nickname is: petty/puerile/childish/insecure/inept/pompous/arrogant That is not the argument

Re: [OSM-talk] Are there any other projects in a similar fork situation? (Slightly OT)

2010-10-02 Thread Dave F.
On 02/10/2010 10:03, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, On 10/02/2010 02:45 AM, Dave F. wrote: With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm curious if there are any other examples? Wikipedia has a catalogue of forks, unfortunately mixed with mirrors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki

Re: [OSM-talk] Are there any other projects in a similar fork situation? (Slightly OT)

2010-10-02 Thread Dave F.
database can (and in some cases) already have done so. From what I understand, it appears that OSM is cutting ties with many of these due to the wording of the new license/CT. If the fork goes ahead there will be less data in OSM than the forks. Cheers Dave F

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread Dave F.
, in all it's forms, that I have added. Steve, you should take a step back look at the whole scenario. Cheers Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-10-01 Thread Dave F.
it? regards Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

[OSM-talk] Are there any other projects in a similar fork situation? (Slightly OT)

2010-10-01 Thread Dave F.
Hi With the various forks that could/are taking place within OSM I'm curious if there are any other examples? If so, what were their outcomes? Did any re-converge? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] [OSM-legal-talk] In what direction should OSM go?

2010-09-30 Thread Dave F.
all the placenames, from there we can delete country and island names. Weren't coastlines originally imported from external data? Hell, let's get rid of those as well while we're at it. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Dave F.
. The campaign to get OS to release data started long before it happened, as you well know. I don't know the precise date but would put a small wager that it was before 01/08 Part of the reason for that campaign was to be able to use the data in projects such as OSM, as you well know. Dave F

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Dave F.
On 29/09/2010 13:21, Grant Slater wrote: The legal advice is that OS OpenData _is_ compatible. My question in the original post couldn't have been clearer so I find it frustrating that it took this long to answer. Do you know what date it got recorded in the LWG minutes? Dave F

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Dave F.
On 29/09/2010 13:21, Grant Slater wrote: The legal advice is that OS OpenData _is_ compatible. Do you know what date it got recorded in the LWG minutes? Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-29 Thread Dave F.
On 29/09/2010 16:13, SteveC wrote: On Sep 29, 2010, at 8:15 AM, Dave F. wrote: On 29/09/2010 12:22, Richard Fairhurst wrote: kevin wrote: The issue here is a licence has been chosen, that appears incompatible with current practise Think you've got your chronology the wrong way round

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-28 Thread Dave F.
Streetview) The latter is most definitely 'cared' for 'maintained'. I certainly don't want to loose the ability to do b) nor loose existing data I've added that way. Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-28 Thread Dave F.
unable to answer. Your arguments must be very weak if you have to invent pathetic criticisms. Do not waste my time. OSSV is a welcome addition to the GB mappers toolbox. It would be disappointing if it rescinded gauling if it was done by OSMF. Dave F

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-28 Thread Dave F.
It's your comments like mindless rubbish that are putting people off contributing. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-28 Thread Dave F.
keep pushing the bounds of crazy to come up with these conspiracy theories. OK, show me the light; as you're the man with the contacts. Will I be able to use any OS Opendata formats if I accept the license CT's in their current incarnation? Regards Dave F

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata amp; the new license

2010-09-28 Thread Dave F.
On 28/09/2010 20:27, Frederik Ramm wrote: Hi, Dave F. wrote: When you joined OSM, was OS Streetview tracing already available then? Becasue you make it sound as if OSM without OS Streetview wasn't worth your time No I have not you know that. Most of my posts have been questions which I

Re: [OSM-talk] Think before you bot

2010-09-27 Thread Dave F.
filters out those large boundary edits only displays those that have edited in the area you set up. There used to be a delay of days for the feed to update, but now it's down to just a few hours. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Historical Mapping in OSM

2010-09-27 Thread Dave F.
. Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [Talk-GB] Hunt the London allotments - with wiki page

2010-09-27 Thread Dave F.
is legitimate. Tagging the source as Yahoo implies that it maybe out of date another, more accurate survey, should be carried out in the future but that shouldn't hinder adding the data. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org

Re: [Talk-GB] Hunt the London allotments - with wiki page

2010-09-27 Thread Dave F.
On 27/09/2010 17:16, Tom Chance wrote: On 27 September 2010 16:34, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Hmm... Mapping from Yahoo without ground knowledge is legitimate. Tagging the source as Yahoo implies that it maybe out of date another, more

Re: [Talk-GB] Hunt the London allotments - with wiki page

2010-09-27 Thread Dave F.
On 27/09/2010 19:18, Tom Chance wrote: On 27 September 2010 17:41, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote: On 27/09/2010 17:16, Tom Chance wrote: On 27 September 2010 16:34, Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com mailto:dave...@madasafish.com wrote

Re: [OSM-talk] [syj]: website to share routes

2010-09-24 Thread Dave F.
? Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [Talk-GB] Distinguishing between RCN and LCN

2010-09-24 Thread Dave F.
as the NCN ones, so look likely to remain much longer): http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1066850 I thought we weren't tagging temporary/published in books/leaflets at tourist information type routes. Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list

[OSM-talk] Potlatch Error Message

2010-09-23 Thread Dave F.
? The Overwrite option doesn't seem to work the Download theirs options just seems to erase much of my previous edit. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-20 Thread Dave F.
, and therefore I recommend to tag explicitly in order to get unambiguous data. Tag what you see on the ground. If you don't know, don't tag it. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-talk] A warning about gates and other barriers

2010-09-20 Thread Dave F.
distinguish it. Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-17 Thread Dave F.
distributing said specific data under license. Item b) is still open AFAIK. If b) is compatible, could you clarify what you mean by it still being open? Thanks Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-17 Thread Dave F.
it doesn't make for a good argumentative discussion, but I really would like pain simple facts. (Here's living in hope!) Cheers Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM book in English published

2010-09-16 Thread Dave F.
than a wiki. Cheers Dave F. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] OS Opendata the new license

2010-09-16 Thread Dave F.
(non CT) but have been exploiting the OS data since it was made available. Err... Do you have a link to CT1.1? Can't find it in wiki search. All links goto 1.0 Cheers Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [Talk-GB] Coastline Tidal Positions

2010-09-16 Thread Dave F.
the area that I surveyed recently make sure that it's more accurate than what's already there (PGS). Cheers Dave F. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb

Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Does importing data give you a copyright?

2010-09-15 Thread Dave F.
in the public domain? Similar for Fredrik's web page. The format/decoration that he applied would be copyrightable, but I could freely copy-paste the Shakespeare text from it. Cheers Dave F. ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http

Re: [OSM-talk] OSM book in English published

2010-09-15 Thread Dave F.
, but why do I need a highly priced printed book for information that is, or should be, available to all *free* of charge on line (apart from internet charges, obviously) for a *free* *open* crowd-sourcing project such as OSM? Regards Dave F

Re: [OSM-talk] Is there an OSM on Android with hand gesture zoom?

2010-09-15 Thread Dave F.
On 14/09/2010 16:07, Dave F. wrote: Hi I've had a look through most of the android list on the wiki... What a difference an OS upgrade makes! (1.6 to 2.1 for the Dell Streak) Thanks to all who replied. I'm sifting through these now so see which works best for me. (Some didn't work at all

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