Oh, that is rich: NE2 saying that somebody ELSE has a history of
gun-jumping Wow, the mote in one's eye!
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I'll let his comments here[1] on a note page speak.
- James
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http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note/3173http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/note
, there is still so very much more to do!
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tedious and lengthy, but I believe it can be done.
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SteveA, I apologize for jumping on your post so quickly. I was
frustrated that you posted an off-topic comment
true. Fiddling
the data AND fiddling the algorithms that consume them are the more
complete solution. Richard has hit the bulls-eye: it's both. As a
corollary, for best results to be expected, both must be different in
different parts of the world, that's just the way the world is.
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and with multiple renderings, delivers.
Nice cloud we have here, OSM!
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On 2013-06-15 6:51 PM, Serge Wroclawski wrote:
On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 6:35 PM, stevea stevea...@softworkers.com wrote:
For the former, I don't need a painted line on the ground, just what the
City GIS department publishes on the open Internet, after these
lines/polygons/neighborhood
(or vice versa), so I continue to
believe using both is OK.
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right.
Making mistakes on a smaller scale is how some of us learn, making
mistakes on a larger scale, while we can tolerate some of, should be
prevented if it can be.
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. May we
have a pointer or examples? Thanks.
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this: you won't get local knowledge,
you're just crowd-sourcing what effectively
becomes an import among many, and they don't
really know whether the data are high quality or
not.
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Great work that you've done in your area with the neighborhood classification.
I would just caution that deriving Neighborhood boundaries solely
from the governments could be problematic because they don't
represent the other stakeholders (mentioned earlier) and in the case
, in OSM.
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On Thu, Jun 6, 2013 at 10:03 AM, KerryIrons
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You really are making this personal Paul, but I don't understand why.
That's not the intent.
I only asked that those who might want to help clean up
properly reflect the semantics you believe ACA (and
perhaps AASHTO) mean to convey in the map.
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Pedestrian/walk bike (dismount), Z = planned, not yet implemented or
actual infrastructure, N, S, E, W are direction-restricted traffic
segments, A, B, C, D...= Alternate or segmented routes.
Take a look! http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=37layers=Clon=-122zoom=12
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of
Niskayuna CDP (to be sure: distinct from the town), you could add a
node with name=Niskayuna CDP and place=[hamlet, village, town] as
appropriate.
I hope this all helps.
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i'm planning to delete a misleading CDP in the near future, i'm pondering
the fact that from time to time we
seem to be getting slower results. But our
results are very good, even excellent in some cases. Yet, per this
thread, we really can do better.
Good thread!
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I'm working on a presentation and interested to hear your thoughts.
What are the top 2-3 changes that could improve
, rinse, repeat. Talking
about Better can, even should result in Better. I'll close by saying
it again: good of you to urge along the conversation in this thread.
ramble--;
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? OF COURSE!
But we are only in the early stages of getting there. Let's not
dismantle established semantics while we do so.
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: as described above, natural=wood
and landuse=forest are quite mutually exclusive.
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(who recently uploaded the southern California national forests, with
careful tagging and discussion both here and in the first wiki page
mentioned above before doing so)
I am relatively
at the same time?
Scrub, I believe, but this is only what I think happens in mapnik.
Other renderers may (and can, and maybe even should) do something
different.
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You are welcome!
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without trees.
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hierarchy. If some de-tangling
might posit a better, richer set of semantics, let that discussion
live in the future when reasons and ideas are forthcoming and answers
can emerge and flourish.
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James Umbanhowar jumba...@gmail.com writes:
The question is what network
your science is sticking to the wall a bit, at
least from here. Further refinements of this proposal, ways to
harmonize it with existing schemes, renderer-writing folk: anybody
else want to chime in?
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I have to wonder if we're not running into UKisms that don't apply
? should be sufficient to (properly) shoo them away.
Live not in fear or being cowed into begging permission, but in being
properly educated. The TSA are our employees, not our masters.
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on a
national level. All that is needed is some wider/continuing sensible
discussion of how we intend to and actually use the map and its
ingredients.
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interesting, consensus-reached and beautiful renderings which
visually convey a lot more than is conveyed today?
Terrific thread so far!
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hierarchy/nomenclature, and
these paths really do exist. Let's try to keep them straight.
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examples which allow mapnik a distinction between crusty edge and
gooey filling.
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) that different levels of government own and
administer (parks). If we stick to those basic tenets, I think we
can do this.
The new thread begins. Let's discuss.
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occurring. I
now move on to Angeles, Cleveland and San Bernardino National Forests
(and their wilderness area subsets), then I intend to complete Region
5's eastern and northern National Forests: 1 down, 3 to do now, 15
more to go: whew!
Cheers,
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like that, that works. Ian and Paul
have stepped right up. Anyone else?
Yes, it could become a model project for other nations/communities,
too: very OSM.
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getting better, but not yet quite done.
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It;s quite possible I could reproject the data for you in one fell
swoop using any of a number of GIS tools at my disposal. JOSM most
likely relies on the reprojection transformations in proj4 which is
based on parameters in
the http
for your feedback,
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at edge latitudes where the transformation may
be more problematic.
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them.
Thanks for the suggestion, you were not the first (big thanks to
j03lar50n, who also suggested the link to the original USFS data,
just published barely two weeks ago).
Great discussion so far. It is amazing what just a handful of
collaborators can make happen in OSM!
SteveA
could send me for the .shp you're looking at?
Yes, it is http://fsgeodata.fs.fed.us/vector/lsrs.php and I chose
Wilderness under Shapefile format then unzipped this to get the
23 MB of shapefile data.
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national
wilderness areas (and other national treasures it can be valuable to
have in OSM, such as wild and scenic rivers) are suitable candidates
for importation and upload?
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reservations in
the US being assigned an admin_level of 1, 3 or some other value. Or
even something else we may agree to do.
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On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 1:18 PM, stevea
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In other words, New York is just
and different tags),
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catch, John. (And nice to meet you in Sunnyvale last month).
It's also a good thing the wider community has many, many eyes.
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I'm asking for additional eyes
on http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14828923http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/14828923
as well
to
make the case that we need somebody like him as an example of what to
do with difficult contributors. I think it is unanimous that he is
that, at least.
I wouldn't miss him if he were gone, either.
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He's banned from (at least) this list. Consequently, you cannot expect
him
as we commonly experience them.
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This and many other annoying addressing schemes used to be common, but
I thought the enhanced 911 system did away with this sort of thing. I
did a quick google search and I can't find any address for that school
though.
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10
and federal reasons,
effectively bypassing state-level government. Do we want to assign
MPOs an admin_level tag in OSM? (I'm guessing no, but I feel the
need to offer due diligence that at least this question was asked).
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doesn't seem correct...) with an admin_level of 9.
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On 6/5/2012 3:42 PM, Mike N wrote:
On 6/5/2012 2:56 PM, stevea wrote:
But socially, or more properly stated, in the context of reaching OSM
consensus, what does our community think of (rather wholesale) reverts
of a contributor who has not agreed to the CT? Are we OK
of (rather wholesale)
reverts of a contributor who has not agreed to the CT? Are we OK
with that? Apologies if this is already clearly stated somewhere.
But if so, I haven't seen it and it is high time we freshen up
how/where we are about this.
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this, somebody else does).
I have confidence we can get there, Charlotte and I seem to have an
odd knack for stirring up better questions with answers/approaches
that get us closer. Great thread!
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Terrific project, this here OSM.
Cutting to the chase and finish line,
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), but
it is overkill (unless points are also tainted). Duplication +
visual inspection via Bing seems sufficient to me, but it would be
really, really good to get the redaction squad to directly address
that point. Right here (talk-us) would be just fine. OSM's wiki
would, too.
SteveA
making this mistake. Thank you for
calling this to our attention.
This makes what is simply tedious border on the realm of utterly
overwhelming.
EVERY SINGLE POINT? Ugh! (Why does so much have to be difficult?)
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work! (Oops, I mean the fun of OSM).
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only a couple/few days of dedicated effort by a/some skilled
OSMer(s).
We can do this!
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improvement scheme. Andy's contact information is info (at)
gravitystorm (dot) co (dot) uk.
Delighted to discuss this,
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public cut as broadcast to the talk-us pages.
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James: First of all, I am not undecided, I accepted the newer CT
about a year ago, and have seriously contributed thousands of
improvements to OSM since 2009. Check
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/stevea if you need proof. Second
of all, I am in a state called California, I have never been
, and will be a crippling body
blow to the project at worst. Perhaps one from which the project
will not fully recover.
Nobody asked me to say it, but I'm asking for three more months. We
can complete needed tasks by then.
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